wapplew
Member
What downplay? BC is a great feature, I think everyone agree on that.
But BC was never a big deal.
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MS: "gamers have spent more than 100M total hours playing Backward Compatible games"
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What downplay? BC is a great feature, I think everyone agree on that.
But BC was never a big deal.
Chobel
Member
I'm sure they'll care, just not enough to make any effect PS5 sales.
Now, if MS offered BC on the next gen Xbox (which they will) it will make negative PR for PS5, and that will definitely affect PS5 sales (In a negative way).
For a feature that supposedly is not used I'd say it's pertinent.
OT - used it a fair bit myself and still need to play some more games like Red Dead Redemption, Alan Wake and Gears. Awesome feature.
Who has down played it? Putting something in context or trying to figure out what it means is not downplaying.
Wii U has sold over 10 million units. How do we know if that's good or bad without comparing to the other consoles and time scale and if that number is world wide or in one country.
LuvOfThaGame
Banned
Agree 100%. This should be praised for the sake of the industry.
Triggerhappytel
Member
Halo 3 is probably one of the biggest online multiplayer launches ever on console. I'm not sure that's a fair comparison.
But world wide brand awareness, better games and more variety of games will make up for that.
BigTnaples
Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
Not the most fair, but big game or not, it's one game, in one week, VS how many games that are BC now? Over one year (give or take).
Just saying, these numbers could be great, but the don't necessarily mean that BC is a huge success. It's getting the numbers over a year that any big multiplayer game would obtain easily. Is that bad? No. Is it great though? Probably not.
CosmicQueso
Member
It's a nice feature that comes at no extra cost to the consumer and allows them to play content they purchased on the previous console on the new one for free.
MS announces a milestone for use of the free feature.
Some on GAF scream for "context". Why? An innocuous statement on a free feature gets this much scrutiny and scorn? Seriously?
MS announces a milestone for use of the free feature.
Some on GAF scream for "context". Why? An innocuous statement on a free feature gets this much scrutiny and scorn? Seriously?
disappeared
Banned
All I know is that xb1 BC has let me jump back into Braid, SSX, Geometry Wars, and soon Red Dead. All I need is Deadly Premonition and it'll be perfect. Props to Microsoft for pushing it.
Bits N Pieces
Member
Genuinely struggling to understand why so many want to find a negative or try to dismiss backwards compatibility as a compelling feature of the Xbox One.
Yabberwocky
Member
First post nails it! I don't currently have an XB1, but backwards compatibility is a great added incentive down the line. I need to play Lost Odyssey sometime before I'm on my death bed. It'd be nice to pack my PS3 away, but there is still a nice enough library of games that I can't quite bring myself to. (Put Demon's Souls on PS4 already, Sony.) I hope Microsoft continues their BC trend, and hopefully Sony will be able to do so with the PS5. It'll be interesting to see where the NX ends up in that regard, though I guess that is quite unlikely from what is rumoured of the console.
wapplew
Member
With the history of MSPR recently? Can you blame anyone try to put some context on such PR?
I have never used B/C but this friday i will be using it alot because RDR is a game i really want to revisit. I am also sure i will use it more in the future when more games i want to play become B/C,
I got rid of my 360 due to money,space etc and B/C is perfect for someone in my position. Keep up the good work MS
I got rid of my 360 due to money,space etc and B/C is perfect for someone in my position. Keep up the good work MS
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Not used according to GAF maybe. I've stated for years that in the real world consumers (especially parents) that casually buy consoles, cared about it.
Anyways it's definitely a Microsoft spin. Like they stumbled onto something, that's proving popular while Nintendo offered bc the entire generation.
CosmicQueso
Member
People can waste their time on whatever they want, but doing so on a statement of hours played on a free feature of the box seems exceptionally wasteful.
BC is awesome.
I swore I wouldn't buy a console without BC, then I broke under all the PS4 hype.
Now with the way BC is implemented and GWG and EA Access and TV pass through the XB1 is the most consumer friendly console in my house and gets 98% of my play time, 100% of my family watch stuff time, and 150% (because I swear she only learned to speak so she could instruct the box to go to peppa pig) of my daughters time.
Great update.
I swore I wouldn't buy a console without BC, then I broke under all the PS4 hype.
Now with the way BC is implemented and GWG and EA Access and TV pass through the XB1 is the most consumer friendly console in my house and gets 98% of my play time, 100% of my family watch stuff time, and 150% (because I swear she only learned to speak so she could instruct the box to go to peppa pig) of my daughters time.
Great update.
GankzyMcfly
Member
AndrewDean84xX
Banned
What else does yor crystal ball say about the next Xbox versus the PS5?
Brand awareness had the 360 on top the majority of last gen. And let's face it, the two platforms share 98% of the same library and the exclusives "better games" is subjective. I'll take the Xbox brand exclusives over the don't ones, easily. Especially because I can cross buy them for my Xbox and PC. I see that being a practice they keep next generation.
Possumowner
Member
I'll be honest,ive not used it once.But that's because my 360 is still hooked up.But I do think BC is good to have on present and future consoles
I would say it's mandatory, especially as digital sales will only go higher. BC will make sure your digitally bought games will have a "future" so that when the old console is getting "switched off", your games will still work and you will still be able to download them.
wesleyshark
Banned
The lack of bc on ps4 has some folks quite irritable so obviously it sucks and Microsoft sucks and this is pointless pr hack.
I played RDR for a week's time back in February when it was accidentally made available. I've played Mass Effect and Super Meat Boy and several others. It's a great thing, bringing content forward. There's literally nothing bad to say about it.
GankzyMcfly
Member
Me...unless the new version has some sort of co-op coming (which i don't believe is the case but correct me if im wrong) i won't be buying it pretty much ever. Don't see the point in buying a roughly 5 year old game for full price. Id actually prefer the option of just returning to my original save state on the 360....odds are the game would perform better BC as well (reduced load times and such, i believe this was the case for fallout 3, and having played it bc i can say imo it felt extremely smooth). Instead with the alternative, these 'enhancements' to the game will like result in it running just a poorly (if not worse) then it did on the original last gen consoles, ie, load times may be longer, inconsistent frame rates. All for superficial 'improvements' imo. Like i said, if they added in something game changing like co op (let my brother play with me even if he can't influence anything in my world other then killing enemies and accepting loot i put on him) then they'd have my attention.
Katana_Strikes
Member
Where are people being negative on the feature? Where are these "BC is shit" posts? Where are these "I'm selling my XBone because it has BC" posts?
People are debating the worth of the number and what it can be compared to. I'm not seeing anything beyond that.
But that must mean it sucks and MS sucks right?
BigTnaples
Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
That was a whole lot of words that were mostly conjecture.
You think the remaster will perform worse than the original games? Would you care to bet?
wesleyshark
Banned
It'll run fine in Xbox. Ps4 is what people should be wary about haha
Enter the Dragon Punch
Banned
you answered your own question as to why people try to make it seem like a non-event :V
Sad Affleck
Member
That's a lot of hours. I really hope that Microsoft is planning to enable 360 BC on PC as well, it would be a great feature that tons of people would use. An official 360 emulator with the ability for higher resolutions would be fantastic.
Bits N Pieces
Member
Well, I dont think I said anyone was syaing "BC is shit" I am merley pointing out that a lot of people are questioning the 100m number and trying look at ways to put a negative spin on it. It just seems a bit ... weird.
I probably have a persecution complex that is clouding my judgement though
If your world is called USA and the only games that exist in said world are AAA western developed games.
SlipperyMoose
Member
Backwards compatibility isn't my main reason for having an Xbox One but it sure is a great feature to have. For those of you that don't have an Xbox One games will just pop up in your game collection to download as more games becoming compatible. It's kind of fun to revisit games or play ones you missed. Your games collection significantly increases without having to pay any extra money. You also get the added benefit of playing the 360 games with all the Xbox One features like recording, screenshots, crossplay, etc. It's a nice program.
derExperte
Member
Microsoft needs to get more flak for releasing unimpressive numbers without context about features no one cares for.
snoopeasystreet
Member
This thread is insanely sad.
100 hours (while not amazing) is a fair bit. I don't think most gaffers understand how little the average consumer actually play games.
100 hours (while not amazing) is a fair bit. I don't think most gaffers understand how little the average consumer actually play games.
Impeccable
Member
100m HOURS?
That's a lot of hours.
That's a lot of hours.
coughlanio
Member
I'd put money on NX not supporting Wii/Wii U physical (and possibly digital) games.
They should compare it to Sony's numbers in backwards comp!
slappingoysters
Member
I'm not surprised - my pile of shame from last gen is offensive. Never quite finished Mass Effect 3 or BioShock Infinite. Has anyone had much luck getting their save files across to the Xbox One?
wapplew
Member
Against PS2 and PS3 Fat? They don't want to do that.
Impressive summary skills!
Valkyr1983
Banned
Funny considering my topic on why always online single player games are awful and should not be supported was mostly met with "Eh, who cares I don't replay old games anyways"
Shows how out of touch neogaf is with gaming community in general
Shows how out of touch neogaf is with gaming community in general
xBoNeAU
Neo Member
Yep transferred all saves to the cloud storage, works perfectly.
Sad Affleck
Member
What is litle about it? People are enjoying the older games they bought on a new system.