TBiddy
Member
Read the thread mate. It's the fourth time this argument was made, and even thought it's technically correct, it doesn't take into account how many/few people actually use BC.
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MS: "gamers have spent more than 100M total hours playing Backward Compatible games"
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Read the thread mate. It's the fourth time this argument was made, and even thought it's technically correct, it doesn't take into account how many/few people actually use BC.
Dead Man Typing
Member
As someone who has pushed for backwards compatibility in all its forms for the last 20 years, I'm very happy with the fact that Microsoft is pushing this and it seems like there is an audience who is responding positively as well.
Caayn
Member
If the "little victories" benefit me as a consumer, keep them coming.
SplitYourInfinities
Member
Great feature and a step in the right direction. It's a great way to preserve a console legacy, increase its portfolio and save the users a lot of money. People downplaying this feature are console warriors, there is no other explanation.
Sad Affleck
Member
NO! Anything that can't be used as effective ammunition in the console war must be cast into a pit like a sickly child in Ancient Sparta!
Just in case anyone misinterprets my comment, I am being sarcastic
Everyone is happy to line up to continue singing the praises of the most anti consumer company in the industry, which enables them to continue those behaviors. Good stuff, I don't get it either.
Feel the Swift
Member
Everyone breaking it down to 5 hours per console sounds silly.
I wonder how many people here on GAF truly believe that but don't dare to say it that way.
LukasTaves
Member
The feature is only publicly available for 8 months, so less than a year actually.
And the number of big releases have just started to ramp up on the last few months.
Doesn't seem like such an impressive number considering half the 'free' titles on GWG every month are BC, in addition to all the BC titles given out free on top of this (Tekken Tag 2 at E3, titles given out as pre-order bonuses, etc) on a 20+m install base tbh. No reason not to at least try something you get for free/'free' after all.
That said, I know I'd probably use BC a lot more on XB1 if it wasn't so poor as things stand currently. Hardly anything I've tried seems to work on it and of the ones that do, there seems to be all kinds of problems that weren't there on 360.
It's a feature that still needs a lot of work imo.
That said, I know I'd probably use BC a lot more on XB1 if it wasn't so poor as things stand currently. Hardly anything I've tried seems to work on it and of the ones that do, there seems to be all kinds of problems that weren't there on 360.
It's a feature that still needs a lot of work imo.
Triggerhappytel
Member
Incredible the number of people trying to downplay this. It's a great consumer-friendly feature which allows for the preservation of historic titles. I don't know how much I would honestly use it, but I'd love it to come to PS4 as I still have a few unplayed games on PS3.
lifeexpectancy
Member
Sodium chloride.
There is absolutely nothing pointless about it. However small 100million hours in when compared to engagement on big AAA releases, 100 million hours is still a lot of time spent by gamers on BC, which might entice more devs to follow suit. Everything about BC is positive for gamers. Stop being a negative nancy.
Banjo-Kazooie
Member
I think I have probably played 5 hours of BLOPS alone. I'd estimate I'll help them Juno that number once I play New Vegas again 
Katana_Strikes
Member
Amazing the amount of people in here trying to make this out as something more than what is happening.
starpiercer
Banned
I could agree with you about that if we were talking about the initial XB1 plans, they were very anti-consumer.
At this time in moment, not so much. I do hope they create a win 32 version of their games in the future but other than that, MS has been pretty chill on the gaming front.
lifeexpectancy
Member
Lol @ little victories. Condescension is a poor mask for being salty.
Translation: I wish I could convince more people to hate Microsoft because I do, and I dont care about stupid BC so no one should!
Yep, no one cares. Nothing to see here folks, move along! This post is so transparent I almost didn't even see it. Protip: any feature that is pro-consumer, whether you personally care about it, is a good thing. And you don't speak for the entire gaming community, so try not tossing around words like "no one". MS started put this gen looking like a bunch of fools, and they paid the price, but BC is a positive for all of us, whether you like it or not.
test_account
XP-39C²
Isnt Xbox 360 BC digital? I'm under the impression that if you insert a Xbox 360 disc in a Xbox One, it will download the game.
MS did a 180 on their plans, I'm not talking about them.
It's just funny to me that "winning the console war" ultimately means a lesser experience for the people who champion that product - which ultimately leads to people wandering into threads like this and shitposting.
People should demand more from their personal ecosystem of choice, not begrudge the available options of competing systems.
Enter the Dragon Punch
Banned
oh good more fanboy nonsense
That one was a jab at another thread
Birgitte2004
Member
Given that GWG which count towards the total, it clouds the issue to me. I've played some truly dreadful games for a few hours because they were "free", from GWG to PS+ to Steam's freeplay weekends, and I'm sure I've contributed at least 5 hours to BC on the Xbox One even though I totally do not care.
If the argument is that a large percentage of the Xbox One population doesn't use BC, that is the opposite of the argument that BC is needed because lots of people really want it. I'm pretty sure no one has ever doubted that there are hardcore enthusiasts who consider BC the most important thing ever.
If the argument is that a large percentage of the Xbox One population doesn't use BC, that is the opposite of the argument that BC is needed because lots of people really want it. I'm pretty sure no one has ever doubted that there are hardcore enthusiasts who consider BC the most important thing ever.
TBiddy
Member
It doesn't have to be a large percentage to be a lot of people. Even if only 10% of the XB1 gamers uses BC, it's still north of 2 million potential customers.
wesleyshark
Banned
Give us Mass Effect 2 and 3 and we'll give you even more time spent on bc games.
sixteen-bit
Member
BC is a great feature. Props for making it happen.
Triggerhappytel
Member
Could you just assume I'm a total idiot who's not really been following the whole topic, and explain what is happening, and who it is making it out to be more than that?
TheMule1983
Member
Traded in my PS4 for the Xbone due to how each company treats backwards compatibility and don't regret my decision one bit. It's a great feature on the One.
It's great BC is there but single data points without context really are meaningless. How does that compare to hours spent on non-BC games? What percentage of owners play what percentage of BC vs current gen games?
Anyway BC is good, always, but I dislike PR stats that don't actually tell you anything much other than yeah, some people must use BC which I knew before that stat.
Anyway BC is good, always, but I dislike PR stats that don't actually tell you anything much other than yeah, some people must use BC which I knew before that stat.
This will never come to ps4. Sony had said PS3 bc is basically impossible on ps4 and everyone involved in emulation seems to agree. Xbox 360 is a lot more familiar setup and was already running an amd gpu.
Well...if that's how many hours people have spent using that feature and MS finds that number to be a good enough number to keep doing what they are doing (and good enough for publishers), then good.
Also, do people think that BC was a feature that would get more play than newer games? No matter, all these games add to the games i'll be able to play once I retire and have time to finish them.
Also, do people think that BC was a feature that would get more play than newer games? No matter, all these games add to the games i'll be able to play once I retire and have time to finish them.
Oh you. At least it wasn't a full on shit post, had a trickle of humour in there.
Bwahahahahahah
If anyone is curious as to what is classified as a "shitpost" or "drive-by shitpost"...... Here you go
I think it's a decent enough metric to show that BC is an actively used feature.
The fan requested stuff like CoD: Black Ops & Red Dead Redemption isn't coming in at a great pace but when they do come the impact is obvious when you see spikes in network users as well Amazon sales charts/trends.
BeforeU
Oft hope is born when all is forlorn.
Yikes, too much salt in this thread. Keep em coming folks.
D'ultimate
Member
The posters that are breaking it down into about 5 hrs just seem kind of...desperate.
There are some games that people are going to invest a little time in and some that others are going to invest a lot of time in. I've spent a couple hours on Soul Calibur 2, Grid 2, Dirt Rally and a few others but I've put in almost 50 in Fallout 3 (so far). I mean you can average that out to like 15 hrs or less per game to trivialize the number or you could accept and appreciate the fact that MS has given their customers the option to play those BC games along with their current library of games.
Haters gonna hate I guess.
There are some games that people are going to invest a little time in and some that others are going to invest a lot of time in. I've spent a couple hours on Soul Calibur 2, Grid 2, Dirt Rally and a few others but I've put in almost 50 in Fallout 3 (so far). I mean you can average that out to like 15 hrs or less per game to trivialize the number or you could accept and appreciate the fact that MS has given their customers the option to play those BC games along with their current library of games.
Haters gonna hate I guess.
You cant give Microsoft flak if people arent willing to work in the flaktory
ShadowSoldier89
Member
so a 5 hour average per console over an 8 month span. This seems like worried news for fans of backwards compatibility.
Still, this gen scrapping backwards compatibility would probably been the better choice. Microsoft and Sony both made the right move shifting over to x86, and this made backwards compatibility completely impossible on PS4, and is costing microsoft a lot of time and effort to make each game they can available on BC. Time that is possibly better spent elsewhere.
The bright spot is that with the shift to x86, forward consoles should generally be backwards compatible by default
Still, this gen scrapping backwards compatibility would probably been the better choice. Microsoft and Sony both made the right move shifting over to x86, and this made backwards compatibility completely impossible on PS4, and is costing microsoft a lot of time and effort to make each game they can available on BC. Time that is possibly better spent elsewhere.
The bright spot is that with the shift to x86, forward consoles should generally be backwards compatible by default
It would be nice if you could point to the post that say BC is bad. Just one will suffice.
Averages out to about only 5 hours per console. And when you include about all the free BC games MS was throwing at people, the number is extremely underwhelming. Wonder why they didn't give out how many people are actually using this? They definitely have the number, but I guess no MAUR number for everyone this time. Maybe they reached the character limit in the PR.
Diprosalic
Banned
5h per console sounds like a lot to me.