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[ggx2ac]

These rumors from NX all sound too good to be true :S

I like having a good laugh.

Seriously, this is the best information we can go off supporting the NX as a hybrid going off of Eurogamer, Kotaku, WSJ, LPVG.

It's either believing these sources or taking claims from SuperMetalDave and HappyNintendoFan seriously.

I'd take the AMD home console and DMP handheld claims seriously if someone could actually put up a damn good argument and reasoning but there has been nothing that has conflicted with the NX hybrid reports.

At this point, it becomes easier seeing what to believe after scrutinising things.

 

[Dark Cloud]

I don't expect anything from Nintendo about the NX until next Thursday the earliest.

I like having a good laugh.

Seriously, this is the best information we can go off supporting the NX as a hybrid going off of Eurogamer, Kotaku, WSJ, LPVG.

It's either believing these sources or taking claims from SuperMetalDave and HappyNintendoFan seriously.

I'd take the AMD home console and DMP handheld claims seriously if someone could actually put up a damn good argument and reasoning but there has been nothing that has conflicted with the NX hybrid reports.

At this point, it becomes easier seeing what to believe after scrutinising things.

SMD and PE are already calling this rumor a "Frankenstein system" lol.

 

[javac]

I like having a good laugh.

Seriously, this is the best information we can go off supporting the NX as a hybrid going off of Eurogamer, Kotaku, WSJ, LPVG.

It's either believing these sources or taking claims from SuperMetalDave and HappyNintendoFan seriously.

I'd take the AMD home console and DMP handheld claims seriously if someone could actually put up a damn good argument and reasoning but there has been nothing that has conflicted with the NX hybrid reports.

At this point, it becomes easier seeing what to believe after scrutinising things.

We don't know if this is from the same source.

 

[Odrion]

Yeah i mean that vita, it's an ugly mess, i can count individual pixels and it's so blurry i can barely read any text on it!!!

yes I agree the vita is looking quite outdated these days

 

[Astral Dog]

If this doesn't turn out to be true people will flip out. "Not even 720p in 2k17 lol"

Its going to huge backlash

720p
Handheld Hybrid
More powerful than Wii U
Using latest Tegra tech
First year lineup makes Wii U run in shame with combining libraries
Low Price!
Not continuation of Wii line.

Sounds kinda like my magical dream Nintendo system 😜

 

[ggx2ac]

We don't know if this is from the same source.

Edit: I don't get what you're saying, same source as what?

Also, Emily Rogers was one of the first people to report that the NX would be using Nvidia's tech iirc around May/early June before Eurogamer did their report.

 

[Akhe]

I think it's alright.

But some complains here...geez

Btw, for fuck's sake, Nintendo!! Just show it already!!

I wonder what kind of patent is to make all this mystery...

 

[reelbigtink]

I like having a good laugh.

Seriously, this is the best information we can go off supporting the NX as a hybrid going off of Eurogamer, Kotaku, WSJ, LPVG.

It's either believing these sources or taking claims from SuperMetalDave and HappyNintendoFan seriously.

I'd take the AMD home console and DMP handheld claims seriously if someone could actually put up a damn good argument and reasoning but there has been nothing that has conflicted with the NX hybrid reports.

At this point, it becomes easier seeing what to believe after scrutinising things.

I'm with you. I like SMD and HappyNintendoFan, and think their intentions are good, but I think they're getting bad info and are either a) being played by their "sources" or b) are reading too deeply into very vague comments.

 

[MadOdorMachine]

The more rumors I read about the NX makes me nervous as heck. Nintendo is giving up on dual screens! Then, I'm really wondering about battery life? Will it be poor? I don't know.

What if the detachable controllers also provide additional power/battery life?

 

[Father_Brain]

I'm with you. I like SMD and HappyNintendoFan, and think their intentions are good, but I think they're getting bad info and are either a) being played by their "sources" or b) are reading too deeply into very vague comments.

What sources? Everything they seem to talk about is based on their subjective interpretation of publicly released documents and LinkedIn profiles.

 

[Napalm_Frank]

I will be very surprised if 6.2 inch is the final screen size (unless there is a smaller SKU option). Isn't that super risky for Japanese portable market, the place where they are the strongest? Like, that's quite a leap even from their XL models.

 

[ggx2ac]

What sources? Everything they seem to talk about is based on their subjective interpretation of publicly released documents and LinkedIn profiles.

Don't forget about the semi-custom design win that is supposed to be for an ARM-based system.

Oh boy, that doesn't seem to go well with the idea of an x86 Polaris-based PS4-like console.

 

[Dark Cloud]

I'm with you. I like SMD and HappyNintendoFan, and think their intentions are good, but I think they're getting bad info and are either a) being played by their "sources" or b) are reading too deeply into very vague comments.

SMD has no sources. He's just latching onto things that he wants for the NX and discredits everything that goes against what he wants the NX to be.

 

[NateDrake]

Its going to huge backlash

720p
Handheld Hybrid
More powerful than Wii U
Using latest Tegra tech
First year lineup makes Wii U run in shame with combining libraries
Low Price!
Not continuation of Wii line.

Sounds kinda like my magical dream Nintendo system 😜

Seems kinda sad if this stuff is considered too good to be true.

 

[Speely]

Seems kinda sad if this stuff is considered too good to be true.

Was thinking the same. The anti-WUST Force is strong with this one. Nothing about the rumored NX specs seem outlandish imo. The rumors have been pleasantly realistic.

 

[Dreamwriter]

I will be very surprised if 6.2 inch is the final screen size (unless there is a smaller SKU option). Isn't that super risky for Japanese portable market, the place where they are the strongest? Like, that's quite a leap even from their XL models.

6.2 inches is still portable, just not pocketable. The reality is, in this age everyone already has a pocketable game system - their phone. Rather than compete, it seems Nintendo has decided to instead go for the higher-end portable, something you'll throw in your bag, something you can set on a table for two-player play, or hook up to a TV for the full console experience. And at 6.2 inches just for the screen, they have room for a beefy battery in there, which was one of the biggest complaints of the 3DS.

As for "the place they are strongest", that is not necessarily Japan, sales are roughly equal between Japan and the US when it comes to 3DS sales.

 

[ggx2ac]

I'm with you. I like SMD and HappyNintendoFan, and think their intentions are good, but I think they're getting bad info and are either a) being played by their "sources" or b) are reading too deeply into very vague comments.

Their intentions are good?

They probably think Nintendo is doomed if Nintendo does Nintendo, you don't Nintendo Nintendo unless you Nintendo Nintendo, Nintendo.

Buffalo.

 

[BY2K]

Seems kinda sad if this stuff is considered too good to be true.

For a handheld that would be pretty damn good, imo.

 

[James Scott]

I'm with you. I like SMD and HappyNintendoFan, and think their intentions are good, but I think they're getting bad info and are either a) being played by their "sources" or b) are reading too deeply into very vague comments.

The issue is creating a small army of people that seem keen on being part of a WUST 2.0 when there's no need for that. They're not just hurting themselves and their reputation, they're hurting others which will be disappointed or angry no matter what

 

[Nanashrew]

For a handheld that would be pretty damn good, imo.

But thinking of it as a hybrid, everything sounds rather reasonable.

 

[LegendofLex]

Edit: I don't get what you're saying, same source as what?

Also, Emily Rogers was one of the first people to report that the NX would be using Nvidia's tech iirc around May/early June before Eurogamer did their report.

While I'm confident that she has sources, it's fair to point out that she didn't say anything about Nvidia until SemiAccurate reported it.

I'm with you. I like SMD and HappyNintendoFan, and think their intentions are good, but I think they're getting bad info and are either a) being played by their "sources" or b) are reading too deeply into very vague comments.

The problem is their "sources" are usually articles speculating/guessing (these words are actually used in some of the articles they continue to cite) that AMD/DMP will be used.

Their methodology is so poor and their expectations so out of touch with almost everything Nintendo's telegraphed about NX that it's hard to praise their intentions.

 

[antonz]

6.2 inches is still portable, just not pocketable. The reality is, in this age everyone already has a pocketable game system - their phone. Rather than compete, it seems Nintendo has decided to instead go for the higher-end portable, something you'll throw in your bag, something you can set on a table for two-player play, or hook up to a TV for the full console experience. And at 6.2 inches just for the screen, they have room for a beefy battery in there, which was one of the biggest complaints of the 3DS.

As for "the place they are strongest", that is not necessarily Japan, sales are roughly equal between Japan and the US when it comes to 3DS sales.

Battery life pretty much come down to how far Nintendo is willing to go. ShieldTV with its 512gflop system is smaller than the Wii U gamepad and the actual internals themselves would fit inside a gamepad sized system with like 2/3 of the space available for additional features and battery

 

[Peltz]

Mobile phones do VERY different things to a handheld games console. Hell, my Galaxy S5 gets very hot just playing Two Dots, and the battery life drops off a cliff.

Very few phone games run at native resolution, and the ones that do tend to be the very, very basic ones.

Also, mobile phones cost several hundreds of dollars more than one would expect a dedicated handheld console to cost.

A mobile phone is not a dedicated games console, stop trying to compare apples to oranges.

Then again, I don't know why I bother reiterating the same points that have been made time and again, because all that will happen is that they'll be ignored again while some ignoramus makes yet another drive-by shitpost because lol nintendo.

I really don't get why people are ignoring these very common sense points. Is everyone in this thread just trolling?

 

[ggx2ac]

The issue is creating a small army of people that seem keen on being part of a WUST 2.0 when there's no need for that. They're not just hurting themselves and their reputation, they're hurting others which will be disappointed or angry no matter what

I'm very curious about the aftermath. It should be studied regarding the behavioural and social aspects of all those involved that believed these guys.

 

[KrawlMan]

Was thinking the same. The anti-WUST Force is strong with this one. Nothing about the rumored NX specs seem outlandish imo. The rumors have been pleasantly realistic.

Just depends on how you look at it.

Nintendo hasn't chased modern visuals on handhelds since the beginning. Going from 3DS to this does seem a bit like a dream.

 

[Peltz]

6.2 inches is still portable, just not pocketable. The reality is, in this age everyone already has a pocketable game system - their phone. Rather than compete, it seems Nintendo has decided to instead go for the higher-end portable, something you'll throw in your bag, something you can set on a table for two-player play, or hook up to a TV for the full console experience. And at 6.2 inches just for the screen, they have room for a beefy battery in there, which was one of the biggest complaints of the 3DS.

As for "the place they are strongest", that is not necessarily Japan, sales are roughly equal between Japan and the US when it comes to 3DS sales.

I'm still not convinced that 6.2" is large enough for multiplayer gaming with detached controllers.

It seems so tiny.

 

[javac]

Edit: I don't get what you're saying, same source as what?

Also, Emily Rogers was one of the first people to report that the NX would be using Nvidia's tech iirc around May/early June before Eurogamer did their report.

We don't know where Emily got info about this being 720p from and it might not be the same source that claimed this to be a hybrid. Just because one thing is ends up being true doesn't therefore mean everything else is true because this info comes from all over the place. It could be a hybrid and still be sub 720p.

 

[Thraktor]

Seems kinda sad if this stuff is considered too good to be true.

We're looking at a screen resolution jump of almost ten times over their last handheld, and a SoC that is, at the lower end of the spectrum the most ambitious hardware Nintendo have ever used in a handheld by far, and at the higher end it could be the most ambitious hardware anyone has ever used in a handheld. It's entirely possible that Nintendo is going to release a handheld in March that will be able to run straight ports of contemporary home console games, something which neither the PSP or Vita properly achieved.

Compared to what most people would have expected from a Nintendo handheld a few months ago, I can definitely see why people would consider it too good to be true.

 

[MAtgS]

I'm still not convinced that 6.2" is large enough for multiplayer gaming with detached controllers.

It seems so tiny.

You dock to the TV for multiplayer.

 

[NateDrake]

We're looking at a screen resolution jump of almost ten times over their last handheld, and a SoC that is, at the lower end of the spectrum the most ambitious hardware Nintendo have ever used in a handheld by far, and at the higher end it could be the most ambitious hardware anyone has ever used in the handheld. It's entirely possible that Nintendo is going to release a handheld in March that will be able to run straight ports of contemporary home console games, something which neither the PSP or Vita properly achieved.

Compared to what most people would have expected from a Nintendo handheld a few months ago, I can definitely see why people would consider it too good to be true.

Valid reasoning. But technology of screens, GPU, CPU, etc...in the mobile sector has seen massive leaps over the past 5yrs. Everything is well within the realm of reasonable. People probably expected slightly better than Vita, and instead we are getting a massive jump over it.

 

[KrawlMan]

Compared to what most people would have expected from a Nintendo handheld a few months ago, I can definitely see why people would consider it too good to be true.

Precisely this. If I view this device as replacing my 3DS it seems too good to be true.

Now, if I view this is replacing the Wii U...that's another story.

 

[IntelliHeath]

only need two usb ports to plug bae in:

If there is no ethernet port then yikes.

I need 4 usb ports for ideal gaming.

1. 2 for gamecube adapters, 1 for lan adapter (if no ethernet port)
2. 2 for gamecube adapters, 2 for second gamecube adapters (for 8 players Smash)

Unless GameCube Adapter wouldn't able to work for NX, or they could completely drop 8 players Smash.

Spoiler

it's more likely that the rumor is wrong. I might be wrong on that.

 

[Speely]

Just depends on how you look at it.

Nintendo hasn't chased modern visuals on handhelds since the beginning. Going from 3DS to this does seem a bit like a dream.

But Nintendo is not releasing a handheld. They have said as much. It's a "new way to play games."

We really have no frame of reference here other than rumors. The speculation that has grown up around it based on the rumors is far from ridiculous. Much of it has been very level-headed.

 

[Thraktor]

Valid reasoning. But technology of screens, GPU, CPU, etc...in the mobile sector has seen massive leaps over the past 5yrs. Everything is well within the realm of reasonable.

That's certainly true, but it's very out of character for Nintendo, who have always been very conservative with their handheld tech.

 

[Yukinari]

Id like to see it to believe it at the reveal conference since Emily has only been right on a few things recently.

 

[Dark Cloud]

Yeah it can't be a handheld. Nintendo said "it's a new way to play games". It's Nintendo. There's something more unique than just plug it into your tv and play on tv. That's not really that unique.

 

[Dreamwriter]

That's certainly true, but it's very out of character for Nintendo, who have always been very conservative with their handheld tech.

Yeah, like when they used cutting edge 3D LCD technology that didn't require glasses, mere months after the tech's first availability to commercial enterprises...

I'm still not convinced that 6.2" is large enough for multiplayer gaming with detached controllers.

It seems so tiny.

Not across the room, but if it's on a table two people are sitting at, it'd be plenty. I've actually played Wii U games that way a couple times.

 

[ggx2ac]

We don't know where Emily got info about this being 720p from and it might not be the same source that claimed this to be a hybrid. Just because one thing is ends up being true doesn't therefore mean everything else is true because this info comes from all over the place. It could be a hybrid and still be sub 720p.

That's true, but with regards to the hybrid rumours it seems there are multiple sources for it considering we have a WSJ journalist that isn't a "game" journalist and he has insiders which he based his reports off since he reported about the PS4 Slim and Neo when people weren't believing the PS4 Slim when it leaked.

Valid reasoning. But technology of screens, GPU, CPU, etc...in the mobile sector has seen massive leaps over the past 5yrs. Everything is well within the realm of reasonable. People probably expected slightly better than Vita, and instead we are getting a massive jump over it.

I remember when I found mobile gaming to be a joke around the Wii era. The surprise was when mobile tech advanced rapidly but, as we can see, that mobile tech for gaming only works well for a dedicated device and not particularly for a mobile phone.

 

[NateDrake]

That's certainly true, but it's very out of character for Nintendo, who have always been very conservative with their handheld tech.

Also true. When looking at it as a hybrid it makes more sense. It's certainly a culmination of factors like the advancements of mobile technology and other things. It's exciting to see the direction they take.

 

[Speely]

That's certainly true, but it's very out of character for Nintendo, who have always been very conservative with their handheld tech.

Very true. When handheld tech was a separate entity from their console tech.

 

[Roto Prime]

Nintendo Tablet...is it ok not to be happy about this? I like gaming on systems not tablet. I really, really hope Nintendo does this right.

 

[castaction]

We're looking at a screen resolution jump of almost ten times over their last handheld, and a SoC that is, at the lower end of the spectrum the most ambitious hardware Nintendo have ever used in a handheld by far, and at the higher end it could be the most ambitious hardware anyone has ever used in a handheld. It's entirely possible that Nintendo is going to release a handheld in March that will be able to run straight ports of contemporary home console games, something which neither the PSP or Vita properly achieved.

Compared to what most people would have expected from a Nintendo handheld a few months ago, I can definitely see why people would consider it too good to be true.

Thats why im hyped and cant wait to see nintendo reveal the nx

 

[LordOfChaos]

A random 6.2 inch tablet for scale

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2df4y8mHsk

Seems pretty all right on the go, but out of the realm of all but the jumbo-est jeans.

Calling it now. 720p will upscale to 1080p when you plug it in. No re-rendering.

I'm sure it would be a developer choice like always. If they wanted to go the easy route they could, if they wanted to try native 1080p output when docked they could put the extra effort in.

With something well above the Wii U but a chunk below the XBO with different strengths and weaknesses I'd expect AAA titles which put the effort in could at least do 900P.

 

[Kimawolf]

I'm not sure why people are so surprised. this is obviously not the same lol Nintendo as we've known. read the more recent interviews, look at all the moves they've made just regarding consolidation, they bought a chunk of DeNA (which I believe we'll see the fruits of that purchase sooner than later), they've put out mobile games and plan to do more! and then look at Zelda. they turned Zelda into an open world game, and not only an open world game, but a seemingly super ambitious open world game.

This isn't the Nintendo we've known in the last two generations i'd reason. Obviously i could be wrong, and everything we've heard is a lie but I can see them going all out on the NX, doing all they came to hold and reclaim some lost ground.

So I can see all these things happening that's been mentioned, and I imagine they have a few more surprises lined up.

 

[Log4Girlz]

3DS to NX, even if it's no more powerful than the Wii U is such a massive leap.

 

[KrawlMan]

But Nintendo is not releasing a handheld. They have said as much. It's a "new way to play games."

We really have no frame of reference here other than rumors. The speculation that has grown up around it based on the rumors is far from ridiculous. Much of it has been very level-headed.

Nintendo could dress up the product any way they want, but if they pitch it as a device that you can play on the go, then dock it and play at home, it's still a handheld. It's a handheld with HDMI out. I get that everybody wants to buy into the hybrid term, but if 3DS had the ability to broadcast the signal of the top screen to the TV, it'd still be a handheld.

Also, of course we're talking about rumors. Not sure what purpose that serves as a response.

Lastly, my response wasn't about whether or not it's feasible/reasonable tech to release today, its about how this hypothetical device would far exceed my expectations of what Nintendo would put out as their next mobile device.

 

[rekameohs]

3DS to NX, even if it's no more powerful than the Wii U is such a massive leap.

Game Freak will still find a way to have framerate problems!

 

[Yukinari]

3DS to NX, even if it's no more powerful than the Wii U is such a massive leap.

Wait does this mean i can play Smash 3DS on my TV with a gamecube controller?

 

[Neoxon]

Wait does this mean i can play Smash 3DS on my TV with a gamecube controller?

You already can, it's called Smash 4 on the Wii U.

 

[James Scott]

I'm interested in seeing what GameFreak does. 1 year doesn't seem like a lot for a new generation...maybe a new remake showcasing a new engine and gameplay?
I think going to a behind the shoulder view like Zelda would be pretty cool and it could take more advantage of the hardware improvements that way.
I think it would be pretty cool to have an OoT sized Pokemon world with 3D towns and Gyms.