Lol come on now.
What would you like to call blocking and deporting Muslims from living in the country? People Profiling? Does that make you feel better?
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Oculus' Palmer Luckey funds white-supremacist/misogynistic/anti-lgbt harassment group
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What would you like to call blocking and deporting Muslims from living in the country? People Profiling? Does that make you feel better?
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Even if he's not rich as he says, he was part of the elite all his life, his father was part of the elite and the business he started were born from the money and influence of this elite.
If he managed to ruin most of these business is irrelevant. The sole idea of Trump governing against the cuurent elite is laughable.
Already Torn
Banned
In what world is Trump excluded from this group when he says the problem is that we're not being harsh enough?
Scubasteve2365
Neo Member
It's not what she's said, it's what she's done, least you forget she actually holds a high level governmental position.
Keeping in mind that Obama received a nobel peace prize for essentially being a human being not named George Bush, yet continued the needless slaughter. I'm not buying that Hillary, who has influence currently, won't fall in line with the party and continue it just as Obama did.
Yes, he will change the drones with nuclear power, great. Also didn't he said if America needs oil he will go and take it?
Amazing, but yeah let's keep ignoring facts, as they said, ignorance is bliss and people will use it as an excuse to let other commit crimes...
AuthenticM
Member
wait for it...
Heckler456
Banned
Alright then, what has she done exactly? And source it if you could.
Donald Trump has a long history of stepping over little people in the ruthless pursuit of his real estate empire. If you're going to judge Hillary Clinton because she's been a politician, how can you possibly not judge Donald Trump for his business career?
This is what drives me crazy. Trump who has been in over 1500 lawsuits... used a presidential campaign to lie about his involvement with birther crap but used 20 minutes of the press conference to talk about his new hotel, argh
.. I'm just going to hit post and step out... I can't believe people will literally believe hillary is a monster crap.
You don't get to pull "This is not really debatable" on anything one post after confessing ignorance.
The_blonde_and_blue
Member
....aaaaaaaaand a Vive it is.
(this is actually good because I couldn't decide)
(this is actually good because I couldn't decide)
It's like taking a shit on the floor and announcing that you will not be cleaning it up.
Heaven Shard
Banned
Scubasteve2365
Neo Member
I did not confess ignorance, I confessed to not watching repetitive news cycles.
I didn't stutter.
Next revision of the Rift confirmed?
Edit: Source Vine. Also, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKJO06CYxdA.
Edit: Source Vine. Also, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKJO06CYxdA.
Not educating yourself is the very meaning of ignorance.
"Both are bad choices" is shit level thinking, and honestly flat out wrong. You're just flat out wrong.
One is very clearly a monster based on the things he says and does, and the other has been the target of nonstop berating from conservative media for 20+ years in attempt to make the American people see her as a monster by default.
One is very clearly an absolutely terrible choice for POTUS, and one is clearly absolutely a better alternative by millions of light years.
WrenchNinja
Member
A repetitive news cycle that doesn't agree with your imagination
I haven't had television in like 10 years, and yet I'm not uninformed on these subjects. It seems you're trying to turn willful ignorance into a virtue. The only way you can avoid news of Donald Trump's aggressive stance on war is if you go out of your way to avoid it. Hell, I remember hearing about his "Why can't we use Nukes?" spiel during a commercial break for a Alt Rock radio station when it was all going down. You don't have to be tuned into news networks to hear about his crazy shit, people sort of love to talk about what a train wreck his policies are.
Scubasteve2365
Neo Member
I can and do judge Trump, I judge both. From what I see they are both shitty horrible people, I just think that Trump will end up with less bloody hands.
Again, I'm not voting for him, I just get sucked into debate when it people make it sound like this election cycle only has one monster.
EventHorizon
Member
There is a HUGE difference between accidentally killing civilians when targeting terrorist leaders, and directly targeting hospitals. It is not even close.
Besides, what would you prefer our response to be?
- A) Do nothing to respond to terrorist attacks on the US and our allies or ISIS gains territory
- B) Send in ground troops who would cause even more civilian casualties
MrFrankFontaine
Banned
That's my issue here.
Is it possible Lucky supported Nimble America because he wanted to support Trump and not necessarily support white supremacy. Yes.
Is it possible that Lucky is racists and supports white supremacy. Yes.
However, neither of these are confirmed facts. Nimble America is just like other pro GOP sites that are looking to push their pro Trump agenda.
There are connections, but to have a thread title that clearly states Luckey is supporting white supremacy is ridiculous until it's factual.
RavenSan
Off-Site Inflammatory Member
Wait what? I feel like you misunderstood. I said I'm not a racist / ignorant / whatever just because I don't feel the need to boycott Oculus.
I have not once defended Luckey or Trump.
MadLaughter
Member
That's a DIRECT QUOTE From Donald Trump when it was mentioned that his plan to torture suspects with techniques worse than waterboarding would classify as a 'war crime' and soldiers might refuse to do it.
bigdaddygamebot
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E-Cat
Member
Claiming he will "bomb the shit out of" countries, would consider using nuclear weapons, and is pro-torture sounds like a peaceful candidate to you? Uh, what?
Scubasteve2365
Neo Member
That's your opinion, and if you reject all of the evidence that disqualifies Hillary as a good person or a suitable for the position of POTUS, then you're no better than the conservative media.
The fact that you (seemingly) are going to willfully vote (i'm not voting for trump btw) for Hillary speaks volumes
Relaxed Muscle
Member
US has a long history of interfering with other countries soverignity for their own interests. What makes Hillary worse than say, Reagan that supported a coup d'etat in Chile, when democratically, that nation voted for someone he didn't like.
That action ended in the death of thousands of people in the hands of Pinochet. They even allowed Pinochet to do a terrorist attack on american soil so he could kill his main oppositor.
What kind of hypocresy is this?
And you think this despite all evidence of his interactions in the business world saying otherwise, coupled with his own comments on torture, political aggression, the middle east, etc. all indicating that he'd be a bloody, petty president.
Fahzgoolin
Banned
never said equally, but I hear your point lol
Veritigo_X
Member
It's quite funny seeing people try to do their Both Sides song and dance this election of all elections. The mental gymnastics must be exhausting this time around.
E-Cat
Member
Sorry, was replying to Scubasteve but accidentally quoted you--now fixed.
Indeed, the implicit message being that manslaughter and murder are NOT the same thing. Funny how you reconstrued my meaning differently, no doubt owing to the fact that it looked as though I was responding to you instead of him.
If Hillary is a monster Trump is some sort of Eldritch being that drives you to insanity and madness simply through exposure to him.
The problems with both candidates aren't even close to being on the same level, and your repeated insistence that Trump ISN'T the warmonger he willingly admits he is, is some of the weakest political astroturfing I've ever seen.
This isn't up for debate. Trump would be more likely to start WW3 than Hillary.
Gotta make yourself feel better about your closet racism and xenophobia somehow.
But Trump agreed that racial profiling was a good thing in O'Reilly the day before CNN.
Heckler456
Banned
What evidence though? Sparse little of that in any of your posts.
RPGCrazied
Member
How does he still have a job at facebook? He should be fired immediately.
SkylineRKR
Member
Trump is insane and Luckey seems to be an idiot, but I think the header is misleading. He's funding smear campaigns against HC, that seems to be his goal. Not directly funding or speaking out for White Supremacy groups.
But yeah, I won't support OR at all.
But yeah, I won't support OR at all.
Problem is that both candidates are equally bad, in their own way. You americans have to choose between 2 evils, an neither of them are lesser evils. Clinton will continue the status quo, which is not god, and Trump is very close to being a facist. What he and his followers dont understand is that the US was build on immigration. Besides, most of the violence comes from far right groups, not muslims, so why he wants to ban/limit them from entering the country, i dont know. He is a populist though, so that might be it.
On topic: Funding rightwing groups is just the wrong way to go. They are known for being violent. not that it matters but i will not be purchase anything that man produces.
On topic: Funding rightwing groups is just the wrong way to go. They are known for being violent. not that it matters but i will not be purchase anything that man produces.
DryvBy
Member
1) Muslim isn't a race. That would be religious profiling, which I find wrong too.
2) "racial profiling" (his words) that's the context of my reply. His words were not racial profiling.
And this is the alt-right thing and how you will see the same phrases, memes and terminology across social media. If something keeps getting repeated, by enough people and for long enough, the actual truth gets forgotten. And they are incredibly organised in doing this and motivated to do this... as evidenced by this reveal.
The other thing that they are adept at doing is taking the language being used by "the other side" and co-opting it into their own co-ordinated efforts. Because they move as one and in such a huge number, they have a significant sway. Opposing voices tend to operate in much smaller silos.
Trump has hinted at being a little more open to using nuclear weapons as a threat of retaliation.
He has also stated that the Iranian ships who were antagonizing and getting too close to US ships should have been 'shot out of the water', which is pretty much not the way the military would want to handle that kind of situation and would likely be an instant declaration of war. He basically would have been baited by Iranian politics that's against the country's diplomatic attempts with the US and would have walked right into it.
There is absolutely no logical reason to believe that he would not sign off on whatever current programs the military leaders would suggest to him, if not worse than what's happening now.
Hell, at this point it's not out of the realm of possibility he would want military strikes because someone insulted him on Twitter.
I'm sure there are people over there having long meetings about this today. We'll see what the outcome of this is soon enough.
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