quickwhips
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Why does that bother you so much? I mean do you need other people to see how awesome PS4 is before you can enjoy it? That seems to be the mindset on here lately...
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Xboxone Resolutiongate (Eurogamer)
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Why does that bother you so much? I mean do you need other people to see how awesome PS4 is before you can enjoy it? That seems to be the mindset on here lately...
God Dayumm
Banned
I like you. You understand engineering and science. Also, the Xbone will have better performance and gains thanks to all that warming up.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
I'd consider that twisting the facts. It's NOT the PS4 owners that have perpetuate this nonsense you know, it's X1 fans in denial and MS deliberately playing to that.
There is a general uncomfortable feeling, similar to pressing on the whites on your fingernails, when you witness somebody arguing against reality. The topic doesn't actually matter that much.
No we need people to stop being so disingenuous. Which is a lost cause. Transparency has been the reason that people have liked Sony over the past year, and even with the shit they pulled with mp3s at launch, they were transparent about it.
You want an Xbone for exclusive games? Fine. You want it because 720p is more 'natural'? Not fine. It's the difference between wanting one for a subjective reason and an insanely wrong objective one.
Stallion Free
Cock Encumbered
Will Digital Foundry set the Playstation 4 down to 720p or 900p output the way they did to PC this whole generation for comparison screenshots in their head to heads?
Like I said before. MS has the best devs in the world. They will unlock the dGPU with day 1 patch and the truth will finally come out. Devs are locked out of the dGPU right now. Its all a big show. MS knows what they are doing. We will see 4k patches within days of launch. 720 to 1080 is negligible, at best. 1080 to 4k is night/day. Hell, even 1080 to 1100 is night/day. You'll see.
Unfortunately you have the large sites such as IGN out there informing people that it doesn't matter because the Xbox One scales everything to 1080p anyway, so there will be little to no difference. The uninformed believe in scaling because there are other uninformed people writing stories that are informing them. It is absolutely disgusting how much complete crap these "journalists" are putting out there, and how much they belittle people talking about the topic. These people are counting on their readers being ever more ignorant than they are, and most of the time, sadly, they are right.
LOL. This guy knows what is up
freenudemacusers
Member
Yes, but you need to let muscles rest, too.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Stay away from Misterxmedia. He's poisoning your mind.
Crimson_Gold
Member
Yes it is. In 3 weeks the talk will shift to exclusives and then subjective opinions will lead to mass casualties on all sides.
Your heart muscle needs rest?
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Yosh confirms hardware based upscaler:
https://twitter.com/yosp/status/395992082621685760
I guess it was a desperate person asking him
https://twitter.com/yosp/status/395992082621685760
I guess it was a desperate person asking him
But PS4 has built in protein shake technology. The Xbone can't keep up with its gains.
Tallshortman
Member
These games were designed for HD displays, 720p never makes IQ look better than 1080p. It will always look like a blurrier image at the same distance, effects missing on the 1080p image are also missing on the 720p image.
freenudemacusers
Member
Yes.. You can not have the heartbeat going at 150 beats per min constantly without issues. So normal function would be rest. lol
Zuhzuhzombie!!
Member
Yup. Had a Bone fanboy tell me in complete seriousness that the Xbone version of BF4 has features, lighting, and particles that's missing from the PS4 and PC version.
Zuhzuhzombie!!
Member
What's a dGPU?
But CSI said
old
Member
That's not what I asked. There's a 1,001 different types of multitasking. I asked specifically about multitasking without suspending the game. Or has Sony has confirmed you can switch to a web browser without suspending/stopping/pausing the game (as in the game is still running, the fighters still fighting, the racecars still racing, the shooters still shooting live on my screen while I use other apps)?
Because if the PS4 can do it then I'm sold. But if it can't, then I'm more than happy to sacrifice some resolution to have my system run two apps simultaneously without needing to suspend/stop/pause either of them.
LOL I'm just imagining someone racing their car around corners in Forza and trying to browse GAF at the same time. I mean great, that sounds cool I guess.
Honestly without television input through HDMI, there is less need for PS4 to provide that type of functionality because you need something active on one side of the screen and something passive on the other. Gaming and web browsing are 2 active things, while gaming and TV watching are active and passive, so it's a more realistic usage for snap by including the HDMI input.
I guess Sony could try to get Netflix watching while gaming? Just seems silly to me personally to have that level of multitasking. I can do it now on my PC which is my entire entertainment center in my bedroom with large TV and laptop hooked up with remote desk/keyboard/mouse, and I simply don't do it because I can't devote any kind of attention to 2 things at once.
I'm sure Sony will eventually work out that level of functionality because outside of HDMI input, there's nothing really that the XBO has that the PS4 is completely incapable of pulling off from a multitasking standpoint.
Haha! Paging El Torro! We need a GIF! Forza race -> snap mode with Banderas watching from the side -> car crash -> Banderas orgasm
HORRORSHØW
Member
SenjutsuSage in a nutshell.
electroshockwave
Member
So Microsoft skipped leg day?
In my 20+ years of PC gaming that number of times I ALT-TAB'd or went to windowed mode to do something else is about twice. A more awkward implementation on a game console is completely useless to me, especially considering I have a laptop, tablet, and smartphone at arms reach at almost all times.
vpance
Member
MS quit P90x early on the 8th week and ate bon bons.
I didn't even know that was a thing. But ouch, it hurts.
Lol tried it as soon as I read it. Same feeling as biting your nails then clenching your fist.
If you have the previous Kindle just have a family member hold it and step back 10 feet. Same!
Too bad it's not from a big outlet. I doubt we'll see any articles like this from the big outlets. His theory about "journalists" wanting to sound unbiased by not saying that the PS4 has the upper hand is logical, but damn those same "journalists" had no problem doing the opposite with the 360/PS3.
freenudemacusers
Member
pretty amazing how the comments still beat the 'but 720p can give you more resources for better effects' drum. Whatever works, I guess.
Septimus Prime
Member
When in-game XMB first came out for PS3, a lot of games would not suspend or pause when you opened it (whereas games would pause if you opened the 360's menu). Turns out people didn't like that much at all, since you can't control the game and the XMB at the same time, and now more games implement a pause when the XMB is open.
As for "magic" upscaling, of course people think it's magic. Tons of people still use that MontionPlus bullshit on their TVs, thinking it makes things look better. Of course they'd treat upscaling the same way.
Great article.
Good read. Thanks for sharing!
Right. "Secret" in the sense of the planning stages not the last 3-6 months of puffery.
I think they are downplaying it, because it's an reaction to the GAF Threads and the reddit rage. We had some interesting weeks here. Threads went up to 70+ pages in a single day.
Those writers are jealous, because it's their job or their privilege to report news and now message boards get the million clicks. And those posts are not written by "professional" journalists, they are full of hyperbole and rage. There are valid arguments in their as well, but this depends on the point of view. As journalist you see the bad side of it.
This creates a urge to not concur with those unwashed raging masses.
Writers don't want to publish just the popular opinion, they want point out new and not so obvious points and also discuss both sides of a story. So as everyboy is talking about the huge res gap, they feel that it is their job to emphasize that average joe can't see the difference in order to paint a more balanced picture.
If nobody would have cared about resolution, it probably would have been the media, that would have made a big deal about it.