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[Krakn3Dfx]

Greenberg is a fucking joke. Good lord.

In his defense, Greenberg is the one guy managing to pull a worthwhile frame rate out of the system at a native 1080p.

Admittedly,90 percent of Forza 5 is static, baked in environments though, so it's not as impressive as they would like people to believe.

But meanwhile, Double Helix can't even get a downloadable fighting game to run on the thing at 1080.

 

[Kuro]

These threads always feel so awkward when someone from corporate makes a comment.

 

[Domino792]

Don't read into that. It wasn't meant to be a tease. I just mean we're so close to launch, with reviews, games, etc. there is still a lot of information coming out. I was not intending to lead to anything more that that.

Sorry that wasn't fair of me, i shouldn't have jumped at your comment like that.

 

[Night Angel]

Oh boy, here we go again.

Edit: nvm.

 

[Jomjom]

Don't read into that. It wasn't meant to be a tease. I just mean we're so close to launch, with reviews, games, etc. there is still a lot of information coming out. I was not intending to lead to anything more that that.

Dont worry, nobody's thinking it was a tease of anything after that list of games with resolutions never materialized or that big Xbox One FAQ.

 

[Wickerbasket]

Don't read into that. It wasn't meant to be a tease. I just mean we're so close to launch, with reviews, games, etc. there is still a lot of information coming out. I was not intending to lead to anything more that that.

So did you honestly not know how inferior the Xbox One versions of games were?

Or did you just enjoy leading Xbox One fans on?

 

[Milennia]

Dont worry, nobody's thinking it was a tease after that list of games with resolutions never materialized or that big Xbox One FAQ.

I wonder if they were notified on the resolution disparity months ago, or after he made that comment on the res list.

 

[Banfield]

These threads are great. I have no idea why people from Microsoft keep engaging, but it's great entertainment.

 

[Hattori]

Kagari is BOSS.

 

[Jomjom]

I wonder if they were notified on the resolution disparity months ago, or after he made that comment on the res list.

Nah nobody knows anything. MS employees are on a strict, "You don't need to know" relationship with each other.

 

[xxracerxx]

These threads are great. I have no idea why people from Microsoft keep engaging, but it's great entertainment.

Trying to put out fires.

 

[Night Angel]

So did you honestly not know how inferior the Xbox One versions of games were?

Or did you just enjoy leading Xbox One fans on?

Don't ask impossible questions. He's here to promote a product, plain and simple. Anything we get from him will be presented in the best possible light for his console.

Which would normally be fine. It's great when we get info about features of the XB1, and I truly appreciate those posts. The problem comes when lies and misdirection enter the arena. But judging by the messaging we've seen from MS this entire time, it shouldn't come as a shock.

 

[Wille517]

I wonder if they were notified on the resolution disparity months ago, or after he made that comment on the res list.

No I'm fairly certain it was PR big talk and it blew up in his face ......and then he came here to try and defend him self and well we all know how well thats been working out for him

 

[Tallshortman]

I wonder if they were notified on the resolution disparity months ago, or after he made that comment on the res list.

Well according to him he had no idea about COD or BF4 resolution until it became public knowledge. I find it hard to believe he had no idea about performance development of two high profile launch games as the director of product planning who came on here to specifically speak about technical specs but hey I don't have evidence otherwise.

 

[Afrikan]

And no one remembers 4d gaming at 120 fps? Or Toy Story graphics?

4D is "time" I believe.... like how the Guns rusts over time in FarCry 2 after getting wet. Or at least that is what I thought they meant.

And The PS3 did have a game that outputted in 120fps. SuperStarDust HD 3D version.

Toy Story Graphics I have no answer for....I thought that was Bill Gates who mentioned Toy Story?

 

[Krakn3Dfx]

Albert, you guys should really send Tim Dog a free Xbox One. That guy is going to hang himself over the latest revelations coming out.

 

[AnyColourYouLike]

Oh Em Gee Toasting in an epic bread.

 

[beast786]

You asked what the chances were.

I'll be back. You're right, I should talk about it. But right now, still lots of info to come out. Once the dust settles, and all the information is out there, I'll address my comments.

Ok . I'll wait Albert.

we still got AC and NFS to go.

And once the dust settles after those two. We don't need you to address or spin any comments. But, provide what you demanded from GAF, An apology and concession .

 

[Gator86]

Don't read into that. It wasn't meant to be a tease. I just mean we're so close to launch, with reviews, games, etc. there is still a lot of information coming out. I was not intending to lead to anything more that that.

How is this guy not banned? Everything he says is straight up bullshit. Anyone else spouting so much ridiculous nonsense and FUD would be done.

 

[Neutralfanboy]

AC is barely an upgrade over current gen. It better be 1080p.

 

[Kaako]

Things are gonna get more entertaining it seems.

 

[andromeduck]

needs some post process sharpen

 

[RedAssedApe]

haha...guess there is a reason major nelson sticks to reddit even though his gaf account got approved

 

[funkystudent]

Albert.

For god sake stop posting on forums. Its not doing anyone any favours

 

[Albert Penello]

Albert, you guys should really send Tim Dog a free Xbox One. That guy is going to hang himself over the latest revelations coming out.

He is a character, that's for sure. God bless him.

 

[Bam Bam Baklava]

Tim Dog is like the Chad Warden of this generation. We need guys like him around.

 

[Krakn3Dfx]

AC is barely an upgrade over current gen. It better be 1080p.

I wouldn't count on it. The fact that it's 30fps might make it possible, but I'm going to be completely unsurprised if it's 900p or less on the Xbox at this point.

Especially since they haven't shown it running on the One at all as far as I'm aware.

 

[SolidSnakex]

Toy Story Graphics I have no answer for....I thought that was Bill Gates who mentioned Toy Story?

Gates said the 3-D chips in the Xbox would be three times faster than anything on the market and offer nearly unlimited graphical visuals. "We're approaching the level of detail seen in Toy Story 2," he said, referring to the computer-generated kids film from Disney/Pixar.

"One of the basic premises of the Xbox is to put the power in the hands of the artist," Blackley said, which is why Xbox developers "are achieving a level of visual detail you really get in 'Toy Story.'"

http://www.thenewgamer.com/content/...2/who_said_wed_have_toy_story_quality_visuals

And those were both about the original Xbox. Sony's quote during that period was that the PS2 was capable of "movie-quality 3D".

 

[RoboPlato]

AC is barely an upgrade over current gen. It better be 1080p.

Have you seen CoD? I'm not exaggerating when I say it's almost indistinguishable from MW2.

 

[Project Alice]

He is a character, that's for sure. God bless him.

So Albert, why are the XBOX One multi plays underperforming? Is it ESRAM, GPU, or the development tools?

 

[Snapshot King]

I wouldn't count on it. The fact that it's 30fps might make it possible, but I'm going to be completely unsurprised if it's 900p or less on the Xbox at this point.

Especially since they haven't shown it running on the One at all as far as I'm aware.

They have not.

 

[Myzer]

needs some post process sharpen

 

[Bam Bam Baklava]

So Albert, why are the XBOX One multi plays underperforming? Is it ESRAM, GPU, or the development tools?

You know he can't answer stuff like that. I say it's cool he's here but let's not expect something of him that he just can't fulfill.

 

[Alchemy]

http://www.thenewgamer.com/content/...2/who_said_wed_have_toy_story_quality_visuals

And those were both about the original Xbox. Sony's quote during that period was that the PS2 was capable of "movie-quality 3D".

Didn't Nintendo claim the same garbage about the N64? Don't think anyone is innocent in overstating the power of their yet to launch consoles. Microsoft has just been fucking hilarious about it with the Xbone so far because its so obvious they're full of shit.

 

[travisbickle]

No I'm fairly certain it was PR big talk and it blew up in his face ......and then he came here to try and defend him self and well we all know how well thats been working out for him

Being PR for a games console must be hell. Think about the rumours we've heard:

"CoD is 720p but there is still time to work on it, and the team are working on 1080p for launch."

If you are PR what are you going to tell the public it's 720p or 1080p? The public are only going to be playing the launch version which at this point is both 720p and 1080p.

 

[Milennia]

Nah nobody knows anything. MS employees are on a strict, "You don't need to know" relationship with each other.

If true, thats some shit... Why do company's in this industry have to be so damn secretive.

You would think they are testing military hardware.

 

[Snapshot King]

You know he can't answer stuff like that. I say it's cool he's here but let's not expect something of him that he just can't fulfill.

That's ridiculous. If he's here, he should be ready to answer questions if he's going to try and sell his product. If he can't do that without lying then he ought to go. The onus is not on us for not asking him uncomfortable questions that have an unfortunate basis in reality.

 

[Piggus]

He is a character, that's for sure. God bless him.

He's ignorant. Microsoft's favorite type of customer, it would seem.

 

[Finalizer]

He never should have ran his mouth here because those statements were always going to come back to haunt him.

At least it's entertaining for the rest of us.

Did we ever get that FAQ thingamajig detailing which launch countries would get which Kinect functions, or whatever that thing was supposed to be?

 

[Project Alice]

You know he can't answer stuff like that. I say it's cool he's here but let's not expect something of him that he just can't fulfill.

It's a long shot but sometimes they break down and let some truth out. Part of me wishes he'd say it's just the development tools and that the ship will be righted. I'm still clinging to that little hope for the XBOX One.

 

[vpance]

Penello:

 

[Fried Food]

The Eyes of Greenburg

 

[beast786]

You know he can't answer stuff like that. I say it's cool he's here but let's not expect something of him that he just can't fulfill.

if he is making bogus and show claims them as concrete facts, then he is expected to fulfill why when wrong. Just like it's expected from any poster/insider who make claims.

There is no special provision for suits of platform publisher , to just spew false information in gaf without consequences like any other gaf member.

 

[SwiftDeath]

He's ignorant. Microsoft's favorite type of customer, it would seem.

To be fair to Tim Dog (can't believe I'm typing this) he was actual quite fair and 'balanced' in that twitter feed with Aaron Greenberg

He admitted that 1080p native is strictly better than 720p and admitted his disappointment at the XB1 failings in that regard as it were

I almost feel sorry for him as you can see the weight this year must have had on him and he just seems defeated at this point

 

[Snapshot King]

It's a long shot but sometimes they break down and let some truth out. Part of me wishes he'd say it's just the development tools and that the ship will be righted. I'm still clinging to that little hope for the XBOX One.

Oh, the tools are certainly a factor. But don't get your hopes up.

 

[Wille517]

Being PR for a games console must be hell. Think about the rumours we've heard:

"CoD is 720p but there is still time to work on it, and the team are working on 1080p for launch."

If you are PR what are you going to tell the public it's 720p or 1080p? The public are only going to be playing the launch version which at this point is both 720p and 1080p.

I'm in now way say his job is easy but for him to talk out his ass or outright lie is stupid and then for him to come here and attempt to peddle his bullshit double speak well sophomoric doesn't even begin to describe.

 

[Wickerbasket]

You know he can't answer stuff like that. I say it's cool he's here but let's not expect something of him that he just can't fulfill.

He told us he wasn't here as PR though.

Could have fooled me.

 

[dolabla]

Albert, do you know/can you tell when we'll start seeing X1 kiosks in stores? I'm currently not that interested in one, but I at least want to try it out.

 

[Afrikan]

I'm Oil Pulling with Coconut Oil and I've almost done my 20mins but you almost made me spit all that shit out on my laptop...lolol.

 

[Big-E]

You know he can't answer stuff like that. I say it's cool he's here but let's not expect something of him that he just can't fulfill.

This is why I have such a problem with a large number of the industry people on this site. They only stick to threads that concern their occupation and they are only there from a PR standpoint. I feel that having members that are entirely PR is not needed for this forum. People like Albert can stick to twitter.