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BiggNife · Nov 5, 2015

Courtesy GAF's own Press Sneak Fuck:

http://kotaku.com/fallout-4-review-embargo-gets-embargo-1740855250

This is gross and terrible.

FluxWaveZ · Nov 5, 2015

BiggNife said:
This is gross and terrible and I hope it doesn't become a trend.

This isn't new.

At least, according to Giant Bomb's Jeff Gerstmann.

iMax · Nov 5, 2015

Pretty sure the embargo of the reveal of the review embargo is in itself embargoed.

Finale Fireworker · Nov 5, 2015

An embargo for an embargo.

What will they think of next!

Nibel · Nov 5, 2015

Don't believe in your product brehs

get on reviewers nerves for no reason brehs

BiggNife · Nov 5, 2015

FluxWaveZ said:
This isn't new.

Except this is the first time I've seen it, and it's the first time Jason's seen it according to the article. It certainly isn't common. What other games did this?

e: Obviously embargoes aren't new, I'm referring to an embargo on the embargo.

Xpliskin · Nov 5, 2015

Zombie James · Nov 5, 2015

The secrecy surrounding this game is it's biggest problem. An embargo for an embargo is beyond stupid.

JayEH · Nov 5, 2015

Embargoes everywhere.

ViewtifulJC · Nov 5, 2015

congrats on breaking the embargo for the embargo for the review embargo, OP

enjoy your lawsuit sir

Yurikerr · Nov 5, 2015

FluxWaveZ said:
This isn't new.

Reviews embargoes are nothing new.

But a embargo to say when your review is coming is something that i don't remember.

FluxWaveZ · Nov 5, 2015

BiggNife said:
Except this is the first time I've seen it, and it's the first time Jason's seen it according to the article. It certainly isn't common. What other games did this?

They talked about this stuff in either last week's Bombcast or the one before. I don't remember specific examples, but I want to say Grand Theft Auto IV did this.

Princess Carl · Nov 5, 2015

Boy, what an excellent way of telling me I don't need to purchase this game, ty bethesda.

Kyou · Nov 5, 2015

they really should have sent an embargo that embargoed when you could talk about the embargo for talking about the review embargo

Odrion · Nov 5, 2015

This is a good sign.

Nope, nothing wrong here.

atomsk · Nov 5, 2015

wiibomb · Nov 5, 2015

wait... an embargo to share the release for the embargoed review?? what is this? Embarception?

who thinks this is a good idea?

Dance Inferno · Nov 5, 2015

Embargception

funkystudent · Nov 5, 2015

They are at Rockstar levels of trying to hide the game from the public.

Femto. · Nov 5, 2015

Never mind.

RedRooster · Nov 5, 2015

Oh dear. This is what 79s and 99s do. Please don't be hiding anything bad.

Ogimachi · Nov 5, 2015

Is there no embargo on this letter about the embargo on the review embargo?

hydruxo · Nov 5, 2015

I heard you like embargoes...

Savantcore · Nov 5, 2015

I've been hovering over the pre-order button all night. I think I'll wait now.

ginger ninja · Nov 5, 2015

We need to go deeper.

But I agree, this is a lot more ridiculous than a teaser for teaser, even if one believes that reviews don't matter that much with a fallout/Bethesda Rpg.

Edit: the first time I preorder and get season pass and this happens, well.

sssstententen · Nov 5, 2015

Zombie James said:
The secrecy surrounding this game is it's biggest problem.

what secrecy? this is common. theres been gameplay footage since e3. theres been no downgradeathon. no major gameplay questions unasnwered. they've been pretty upfront about the game. I'd just imagine a game with 11k dialogue lines must be pretty story heavy, so i'd imagine they want to stop it from getting out (which seems to already have failed).

adj_noun · Nov 5, 2015

Trace · Nov 5, 2015

GwyndolinCinder · Nov 5, 2015

This happens alot....

weekev · Nov 5, 2015

Woah! Careful OP, pretty sure this news is embargoed.

CelticVegas · Nov 5, 2015

There's a patch for the embargo at launch.

Wallach · Nov 5, 2015

Femto. said:
Never mind.

Always, yeah.

Spectromixer · Nov 5, 2015

Wait did Jason break the embargo for the embargo?

shink · Nov 5, 2015

FluxWaveZ said:
This isn't new.

At least, according to Giant Bomb's Jeff Gerstmann.

Kotaku hasn't seen this before. So I don't imagine it being a common thing

Chobel · Nov 5, 2015

I mean it's stupid, but it's not really an issue IMO.

PMS341 · Nov 5, 2015

AAA gaming is a joke, I swear.

Hasney · Nov 5, 2015

BiggNife said:
Except this is the first time I've seen it, and it's the first time Jason's seen it according to the article. It certainly isn't common. What other games did this?

e: Obviously embargoes aren't new, I'm referring to an embargo on the embargo.

It's not new. Both Giant Bomb and Gametrailers have mentioned that quite often there is embargos on revealing you have an embargo.

DOWN · Nov 5, 2015

But we knew the review embargo a while back. How? Someone in the screenshots thread was mentioning it casually

Jimmyfenix · Nov 5, 2015

sersteven said:
what secrecy? this is common. the embargo ends 4 days before the game releases. theres been gameplay footage since e3. theres been no downgradeathon. no major gameplay questions unasnwered. they've been pretty upfront about the game. I'd just imagine a game with 11k dialogue lines must be pretty story heavy, so i'd imagine they want to stop it from getting out (which seems to already have failed).

No the embargo ends one day before the game comes out

Cross-Section · Nov 5, 2015

If I had to guess, 10am tomorrow is probably when pre-loads go live.

Askherserenity · Nov 5, 2015

The fuck is up with all these secrets? It's as if we don't already know what a Fallout game is.

Kyou · Nov 5, 2015

Spectromixer said:
Wait did Jason break the embargo for the embargo?

there's no embargo on the embargo embargo, he just cant tell us when they plan to run their review

Peff · Nov 5, 2015

sersteven said:
what secrecy? this is common. the embargo ends 4 days before the game releases.

The embargo for the embargo, not the embargo itself.

BiggNife · Nov 5, 2015

GwyndolinCinder said:
This happens alot....

Please don't make a post like this without providing examples.

FluxWaveZ · Nov 5, 2015

shink said:
Kotaku hasn't seen this before. So I don't imagine it being a common thing

Certainly not, but there isn't a danger of this becoming a trend when I'm positive I've heard of revealing the information of an embargo being embargoed happening several times in the past.

Ishida · Nov 5, 2015

Xpliskin said:

C'mon GAF you are slipping.

RoboPlato · Nov 5, 2015

From what I've heard, Bethesda is extremely NDA happy

Replicant · Nov 5, 2015

But doesn't the existence of this very thread basically says "FUCK YOU" to this embargo to embargo?

sssstententen · Nov 5, 2015

Jimmyfenix said:
No the embargo ends one day before the game comes out

yeah I editied to reflect that. I still don't think its that big of a deal. I feel like this probably happens more than Kotaku is letting on but because its Fallout 4 and they recieved an official press thing about it vs. just being told not to by the pub, they want to take off with it.

CassidyIzABeast · Nov 5, 2015

We've got announcements for announcements and trailers for trailers, why not add embargoes of embargoes?

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