stan423321
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Honestly this would have been way funnier if the journalist just told us about embargo embargo without breaking it.
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Bethesda has an embargo on announcing the FO4 review embargo, are you kidding me
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Zombie James
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Rockstar is nowhere near this secretive.
Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule
Member
giant bomb is your god or something?
But is there an embargo on the lack of an embargo embargo? If so he just broke embargo for breaking the embargo embargo embargo, Bethesdas lawyers are coming.
What.
Yes, Giant Bomb for me is a religion, and Jeff Gerstmann is the shit.
Basically, with it being timed, it's all marketing. They want sites to go "REVIEW COMING MONDAY!" on Friday in a massive chorus so people are hyped to see the reviews and keep the game in peoples conversations, then OH SHIT REVIEWS before OH HOLY MOTHER OF FUCKING GOD THAT'S OUT TOMORROW.
Solid Samus
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Zombie James
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I'm sorry, but I guess you haven't been paying attention to the leaks. There's plenty of basic gameplay information we've only just found out in the past few days.
benicillin
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Seems like a media/PR thing. They want an embargo on the embargo until Friday, when all the websites and reviewers will post news articles about when will be releasing reviews for the game on Monday, so Bethesda essentially assures hype and attention on Friday and Monday going into Tuesday. It's about controlling the messages and attention for maximum views.
Banana Aeon
Member
Who will be the first to put an embargo on the embargo to let readers know that the review embargo ends?
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
Yes.
You are the only living person to not care about this.
You are a special snowflake.
Go you!
DOWN
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Hell yeah they are. All we get from their games are trailers. Then a trickle of screenshots. It was way late, just weeks before GTA V that we finally saw more than the few trailers in motion and heard of the press getting to try it
EatinOlives
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No, because the embargo prohibits the reviewer from saying when he/she will begin their review coverage. They can still say "I can't say when my review coverage will be because that's under embargo" without breaking the embargo.
The bombcast (or maybe it was the beastcast) mentioned that this is sometimes a thing and it's not as crazy/insidious as people think. It's just usually a marketing team decision.
And the word gross gets thrown around too much.
No matter how many times it has happened before (embargoes for embargoes aren't nearly as common as you'd think), the situation is still completely anti-consumer, but pro-corporation. They build the hype, regardless of how warranted it is or not, and use this to mask any development issues before launch. Kind of sad we have to rely on leaks just to hear or see the truth when it comes to game launches these days.
Stratostar
Member
Nice edit.
I know, it's fucking brilliant. Hope other games follow suit and we find out stuff this close to release.
Hot Coldman
Banned
fuckin' why
Spectromixer
Member
Ooooh okay
GwyndolinCinder
Member
Sorry but its hardly not worthy to me, i'm sure some gaffer will stroll in with a list of recent examples soon
CrispyGoomba
Member
Dude, in defense of Bethesda, this isn't your normal video game release. Many people want their hands on this game and they are probably just trying to keep information from getting out. Y'know, keeping spoilers at bay. Whether or not their true intentions is to hide how bad the game actually is, is a different story. I'll be placing my money on just keeping the spoilers contained.
Blitzrules240
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Todd Howard.
Why
Why
Solid Samus
Banned
yeah that's called game leaks man, that's how it goes with almost all of them. that doesn't do go very far in refuting sersteven's points unless you believe we should expect to know literally everything about a game's systems before launch
I got sick of people saying "This is a common thing that happens all the time" without providing any examples. I made the thread more to focus on the fact that this is a bad thing to do imo.
Thanks for your input sunshine.
Warablo
Member
This, I didn't read any spoilers and I can probably already guess the ending based on the information they already released anyway.
What are they hiding? Reviews will be up before launch and it's been in reviewers hands well in advance now. That's the part that matters.
Weather or not you agree with embargos in the first place is different since it's the press helping the marketing, but this isn't seemingly doing anything shady to hide anything, at least more than most other AAA games.
ginger ninja
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There was a point where we needed to stop defending bethesda and we have clearly passed it but lets keep going and see what happens.
For marketing purposes. Messaging happening on the same days, basically. Everyone announcing around 6th that the reviews will be up on the 9th is to drive more people to the reviews on the morning of the 9th, which immediately preceeds the launch of their game.
Because much of Zenimax Media's board and upper management have lawyer backgrounds.
If you wish to be exempt from the embargo embargo embargo you must go to Margot in Fargo to get some cargo that's under embargo unless you watch Argo.
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aspiegamer
Member
These sorts of things continue to get worse every year. This is never, ever going to change until pre-orders start dropping. Something with the name recognition, hype and reservation numbers of Fallout can do whatever the hell it wants without any consequences.
Even extremely good games have big embargoes now, which to me makes no sense. If your game is that good and you know it's good why not welcome more hype machine?
Even extremely good games have big embargoes now, which to me makes no sense. If your game is that good and you know it's good why not welcome more hype machine?
Slammin_Hammon
Member
Holy shit people you're seriously flipping out because press isn't allowed to say when they'll review a game until a certain date. Post launch review embargoes are shit but as long as the review comes day and date with the game or before who cares when press can say the review will be available.