BlastProcessing
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I assume he will test how the Zen performs when it's submerged in Sodium Chloride.
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AMD announces Zen CPU preview on 13th December, hosted by Geoff Keighley.
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I assume he will test how the Zen performs when it's submerged in Sodium Chloride.
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Nope, this is in a different segment. These are CPUs that will use up to 95 watts of power.
I've looked at your post history and you've mentioned a roadmap presentation a number times. I managed to find the document, but to my eyes there's nothing that categorically debunks the supposed Lisa Su comment that there won't be any semi-custom Zen designs before 2018. There's also nothing that supports it, though, which means we've not moved squares.
Let a man/women have hopes and dreams.
I sure do.
I commend your intensity.
I recall someone pulling the exact quote from her. I'm not saying it's confirmed, I'm just saying it's not been confirmed it's not Zen either.
Okay. I didn't say it was confirmed or even reliably reported, either, by the way.
I meeaaan, wanting a decent CPU in late 2017 for a 6TF+ 4K console isn't exactly high hopes, it it? That's like, standard/regular/expected hopes.
LelouchZero
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LMAO!
We want some more of that 60 fps console gaming goddness, which a more powerful CPU can help to deliver.
Hopefully the developers provide a similar option like how the PS4 Pro has multiple modes in some games.
I'd love to see Red Dead Redemption 2 at 60 fps.
Dictator93
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I'm just saying that report was poop. The quote was taken out of context into a clickbait title.
I'm hopeful anyway, it's like when AMD shared their new semi-custom wins and only specified the Scorpio and not the Pro, which was yet to release. To me, that tells me new architecture semi-custom wins.
I'm a politician.
Was it, though? The claim is that she made the comment during the presentation, however there's nothing in the presentation itself that points in either direction, so the only way you can be sure that she was misrepresented is if you were in attendance when she spoke or the comment has been regurgitated by someone reputable who was present.
Peter Ian Staker
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Wow, they are doing a full on gaming event, with the Dorito Pope and everything. Didn't expect that.
Please don't disappoint AMD. We need good CPU competition to bring prices down.
Please don't disappoint AMD. We need good CPU competition to bring prices down.
Zalusithix
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I'm not so sure of that. There's a fair chance that come December 13th, we'll need to breakout the "it's fucking nothing" gifs.
So odds are Scorpio will still be gimped by the CPU? Good news for my 6300 if so. Hope Zen turns out awesome though.
It's hard to say that one outcome is more likely than the other in the absence of any compelling evidence.
According to Steam 17% of its users are using some Intel GPU, so it's not exactly a tiny number.
Fair enough. We do know next to nothing about the darn thing, they've been doing a good job keeping it under wraps
Wishful thinking. Every new console is an opportunity for those hoping for 60fps to project those desires into something before it is actually revealed
The far more likely outcome is AMD simply showing how zen can be great for gaming at a competitive price. I don't know if Zen is even widely available yet, and it is currently a desktop CPU - and people are already including it in some fabled massive APU
Scorpio is more likely to stick with jaguar for ease of bringing Xbox one games out at 4K - it'll be increasing the rendering resolution just like Ps pro
wapplew
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Watch them cross fire 2 Zen CPU to match 6700K.
He's obviously not the only person that will ever be on stage, I'm sure Su and the lead architect of Zen will be there as well. What are you thinking?
BlastProcessing
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He is a very good person to ask layman questions to the AMD employees that will be on stage. Pretty sure they were thinking that they wanted someone who will be a polished and professional audience surrogate.
This is not likely to be an event for a SOC, especially when they already mention "putting the CPU through its paces".
Or maybe he will play other games, I think pro dota players are allowed to do that.
LukasTaves
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No. But now we know the reason why Sony made that comment, a stealth future "jab" just like the uncompressed pixels.
How's that going to work with BC?
Yeah, you are right (sadly).
potatohead
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Finally I need to get a new computer hopefully when HDR is available on Pc monitors.
professor_t
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Why doesn't someone tweet Phil Spencer and ask if he will be at the event - as a special guest.
That'll put some rumors and/or hype to rest.
Setting wishful thinking aside, isn't it unlikely that MS would yield control of this kind of announcement to AMD? Wouldn't they want to cover all of the capabilities of the machine at their own, highly publicized event that focuses exclusively on the Scorpio? As opposed to an event that sandwiches their shiny new toy between a bunch of tech talk that may not be of interest to a huge segment of their gaming population?
I would love for them to pull the curtain back on the Scorpio's processor, but if you set emotions aside, it doesn't seem like a logical move.
Shpeshal Nick
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Basically.
They've been using shit CPU in consoles for 2 gens straight. Wanting a decent CPU doesn't mean you will get one. I still hope nonetheless especially with architecture and IPC improvements and is making.
You only have to look at the i7-7700k preview just published to see that even Intel cannot make any progress worth mentioning with the materials and technologies available at the moment.
This does give AMD a chance to catch up, so to speak. If they can deliver Broadwell-E performance for a lower cost, they just may have a chance at taking some business from Intel. There are a lot of people interested in CPUs for games machines that don't like wasting silicon budget on a worthless GPU.
I can see them getting tripped up on frequencies though. Broadwell IPC, but clocks that can't match Intel's parts would put them in kind of a shitty place. Good luck to them.
This does give AMD a chance to catch up, so to speak. If they can deliver Broadwell-E performance for a lower cost, they just may have a chance at taking some business from Intel. There are a lot of people interested in CPUs for games machines that don't like wasting silicon budget on a worthless GPU.
I can see them getting tripped up on frequencies though. Broadwell IPC, but clocks that can't match Intel's parts would put them in kind of a shitty place. Good luck to them.
LelouchZero
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How did the Xbox 360's CPU compare to PC CPUs?
I remember hearing that it was somewhat comparable to a Core 2 Duo so I know the Core 2 Quads would have been obviously more powerful.
GhostTrick
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I'd love AMD to bring a 6 or 8 core CPU, overclockable, with Haswell IPC, for less than 300. That would shake things a lot.
I would wager that 80% of all desktop pcs don't come with a dedicated GPU. No one in my family has one and neither any of the PCs at my work. Even most of my friends game on iGPUs.
It's still x86. And the BC team will find a way getting it to run on a better CPU.
Samurai G0SU
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I think the only people who actually care what cpu is in it are those who like technical things like what kind of ram/threads/floating points and whatever else hardware things that i dont know about. the mass market of folks who just see a more powerful xbox, just want to know what it can do, not really what's under the hood right? so announcing ZEN isn't that big of a deal for commercials or trailers. not a marketing term at all.
I think to tease that the zen will be part of the scorpio, to keep the technical people talking about it, is logical to me. they wont reveal everything, never said they would or have to
just a tease to keep the word of mouth going. plus its fun to guess!
Delusibeta
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There's absolutely nothing in the press release to suggest this has anything to Scorpio. Indeed, considering that it's mostly going to be eSports personalities suggests that it's going to probably be entirely PC gaming.
I'm fairly certain that I read there will not be a hex-core Zen. Something to do with a design decision that means quad or octo-core only. Could have been bollocks though, who knows?