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Assassin's Creed Syndicate PC Performance Thread
- Thread starter Crossing Eden
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OldGangWarily
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What a douchey thing to say.
icecold1983
Member
they have proven themselves highly incompetent. how many times can they introduce software with the same goddamned bugs?
OldGangWarily
Member
I agree that they've fucked up more than once...badly (I was livid when they introduced that flickering puddle SLI bug in Unity earlier this year). However, this does not give you the right to call *anybody* "monkeys".
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Deleted member 17706
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My version is stuck on 1.21. Any way to prompt the update?
icecold1983
Member
dont, i wish i could roll back.
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Deleted member 17706
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The AA issue? I only have FXAA enabled (no MSAA), so I hope I won't be affected.
icecold1983
Member
oh, the game is so jaggy with just fxaa. much more so than unity.
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Deleted member 17706
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Doesn't look that bad to me, but I could see why some people would want a higher IQ. I prefer the higher frame rate, personally (only running a 970).
icecold1983
Member
Yeah this is one of the few games where the higher framerate loses alot of its benefit due to the controls being super laggy regardless of framerate and the animation being jank city.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
icecold1983
Member
Looks quite poor, especially after unity. Full of glitches, bugs, awkward transitions etc
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Although there are some animation issues, they're quite good, (actually they won an animation award which is pretty neat >_>).
I would refer to FO4 as "jank city." You're right that they're not as good as Unity tho but then again there's less animation priority and as we saw they improved majorly from that first build they showed to the public.
It's a shame Evie gave up her cane for brass knuckles in the Jack the Ripper DLC.
SLI support is there, but multi-GPU utilisation is quite poor.
SLI support is there, but multi-GPU utilisation is quite poor.
chromatic9
Member
Not surprised they won an award for animation. I progressed in the game a bit more last night and seen 3/4 new animations that were pretty incredible.
icecold1983, are you running TXAAx4 when trying to play Syndicate? I found in Unity and Syndicate MSAA x4 is a killer, causes much lag and jank but I only have a lowly 970. I'd be surprised a 980ti could do MSAAx4 seamlessly. I didn't watch the video, sorry.
icecold1983, are you running TXAAx4 when trying to play Syndicate? I found in Unity and Syndicate MSAA x4 is a killer, causes much lag and jank but I only have a lowly 970. I'd be surprised a 980ti could do MSAAx4 seamlessly. I didn't watch the video, sorry.
icecold1983
Member
I was running 2x txaa but im not playing anymore untill they fix the aa they just broke
Some animations in a vacuum are good, but as whole its janky imo. Just because fallout is worse doesn't make this good. The majority of the animations also randomly speed up and slow down. Its very off putting.
I also dont understand how despite animation having lower priority, the controller response is so much worse and less precise than unity.
Agreed and many people underestimate the challenges that come with open world games. The number of objects you can collide with must be hell for animators, I'm really impressed even though they are not perfect.
Unity also had great animations, in fact most Ubisoft games I can think of had really good animations, I fondly remember Sam Fisher from Splinter Cell 3.
The crouching animation changed the closest you were from an enemy, it was stunning back in 2005.
What a technological triumph this game was.
Felix Lighter
Member
I've seen carriages randomly fall from the sky and crash to earth in the middle of nowhere more than once. It's a bug I can really get behind.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
I definitely wouldn't say that it's not good. It's a lot less grounded than other AC games. And the issue you may be having is that there are less commands to input than in Unity. So things like inputting a jump right before you hop off of a ledge aren't possible, which is imho a change for the worse because I'd rather be able to make a mistake and kill myself than be relatively safe. They need to give back the full control of the character while having very little animation priority. This is the best video that demonstrates how much control we had.
icecold1983
Member
The animation in that video is what id expect a generational improvement to be over syndicate. So disappointing :/
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Unity was pretty ahead of it's time, (and ofc needed more time for polishing), I'm more disappointed in the hit to the facial animation in the cutscenes to be completely honest. It is this studio's first full game and they were fairly ambitious with the world so it's what it the expectation I had especially as the game went on. Makes you wonder how Montreal's title will be next year considering this gave them an extra year.
Dictator93
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They gave them an extra year and it still is coming out with in the 1 year sequel cycle?
Does that mean they were originally going to have 2 AC games in 1 year? WTF
They already had a year like that with Unity and Rogue releasing at nearly the same time last year. Unity just ended up getting the lion's share of the attention.
Lockjaw333
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Is everyone using HBAO+ Ultra. I can't decide if I like the look of it compared to regular HBAO+. The shadowing seems sort of...heavy handed, if that makes sense.
Otherwise this game is absolutely gorgeous and runs great.
Otherwise this game is absolutely gorgeous and runs great.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Nah. These are things that are planned years ahead of time. The Montreal studio wanted more time to experiment during development so the next one might be a bit of an overhaul or they're working on the next overhaul. Montreal wasn't planning to release an AC title this year. I don't think they'll ever be releasing multiple main titles a year again. Which has the caveat of not being able to have a WD level delay because another title is coming the next year. ._.
icecold1983
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i dont use it because i dont think its worth the 25% hit to performance it incurs. more often than not it doesnt even provide that large of a visual improvement. its really scene and lighting dependent. regular hbao+ is a solid improvement across the board and the performance hit is much smaller.
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Deleted member 17706
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HBAO+ Ultra makes the game look a hell of a lot better in my opinion. Photo realistic at times.
I had to drop it down to normal HBAO+ in the
World War I
chromatic9
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Nvidia have a good HBAO comparison guide.
http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/guides/assassins-creed-syndicate-graphics-and-performance-guide
Also seems to be a 5% performance hit over HBAO and 10% between no AO and HBAO ultra, not 25% lol according to Andrew's testing. Not noticed a large hit myself either but will check later, seemed like a very minor hit when trying weeks ago.
http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/guides/assassins-creed-syndicate-graphics-and-performance-guide
Also seems to be a 5% performance hit over HBAO and 10% between no AO and HBAO ultra, not 25% lol according to Andrew's testing. Not noticed a large hit myself either but will check later, seemed like a very minor hit when trying weeks ago.
icecold1983
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25% for me. Maybe running with pcss ultra and 4x aa causes bottlenecks in parts of the gpu where enabling hbao+ ultra incurs a small fee. I was running shadows at high and 2x aa
Sounds like hardware instability.
I figured something to the effect, but not sure where to even begin.
chromatic9
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I'm getting up to a 10% reduction worst case when enabling HBAO+ ultra over HBAO. Tried 2xtx and 2xmsaa as well.
Drama Zed Nod
Member
spent a lot of time with the settings and thought i had it good , but i just got in to london (After the lengthy pre-london opening acts) and my fps has dropped.
I'm running 1440p G-Sync
2 x 780Ti
4770k @4.4
16GB RAM
What setting should i be going for if i want a good IQ but no drops under 30?
I dont care about achieving a solid 60fp at all times, 30 and fluctuating above is fine, just not below 30.
I'm running 1440p G-Sync
2 x 780Ti
4770k @4.4
16GB RAM
What setting should i be going for if i want a good IQ but no drops under 30?
I dont care about achieving a solid 60fp at all times, 30 and fluctuating above is fine, just not below 30.
high environment
Medium textures
High shadows
HBAO+
FXAA
The game does not support SLI as far I'm aware so you are only one one 780ti, 1440p with modern AAA games is very demanding.
icecold1983
Member
youre not going to be able to play with good IQ on a kepler card
Cannon Goose
Member
My game is doing two annoying things:
1. Crashing right after I complete missions. It appears to save my progress just fine as I can start the game back up again and it'll pick up right where it crashed. Not really sure what to try to make the crashes stop.
2. Every time I start the game it sets the Active Input to Mouse + Keyboard instead of Auto, so I need to use the keyboard to change it back in order for my controller to be recognised. Is this a common issue?
1. Crashing right after I complete missions. It appears to save my progress just fine as I can start the game back up again and it'll pick up right where it crashed. Not really sure what to try to make the crashes stop.
2. Every time I start the game it sets the Active Input to Mouse + Keyboard instead of Auto, so I need to use the keyboard to change it back in order for my controller to be recognised. Is this a common issue?
cyen
Member
The first point that you mentioned happens to me alot of times. AMD card?
Cannon Goose
Member
Sorry, Nvidia.
JimJamJones
Member
So the game is on sale on Amazon, and I was thinking of picking it up.
I can't figure out if there is good SLI support or not. I have SLI 970, and I wanna run this game at 2560x1440p and 60fps. Is that gunna happen or no?
I can't figure out if there is good SLI support or not. I have SLI 970, and I wanna run this game at 2560x1440p and 60fps. Is that gunna happen or no?
Mad Season
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Thanks for posting!
