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[Destructoid] Leaked photo of NX controller?
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ElectricBlanketFire
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punkmaggit
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How would you see your health towards the bottom? Wouldn't it be covered by your hand?
Can ya feel me?
perfectchaos007
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I've always wondered what it would look like if my controller was inside my game screen.
Oh my. True! I thought that black square on the controller was the NFC reader for amiibo or something, hah. Damn so this.... could be.... real? If it is then was good for the leakers to blocked out the actual name of the console because that would have been absolute disastrous for Nintendo.
Can ya feel me?
Niiiiiice. Dat pleasant placement feel.
GuitarAtomik
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Can ya feel me?
Your hands would totally be covering at least a third of the health and shield bars at all times with that set up though.
Just make the lower part of the health/armor HUD stop where your thumb covers the screen.
It wouldn't work as a straight port, but yeah.
The thing is that the buttons are not physical, only the sticks. So the actual button layout can be completely customized on a game-by-game basis. Nobody is locked into one set and layout of buttons. That is what it offers that is new.
NowhereFaded
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This is brilliant. Good contribution.This is the exact frame that was used. You can tell from the various parallax elements that converge at that moment ( pillars, branches etc. ).
Quick & dirty perspective overlay ( close enough though ) ...
Edit: spellcheck wtf
ForsakenLotus
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I don't find the immersion reason a very strong one considering you have analog sticks taking away chucks of the image, plus your fingers and possibly part of your hand would be obscuring part of the periphery.
As for the buttons, I don't think Nintendo is going the haptic route. For one, most people heavily favor physical buttons versus virtual ones. Also, I don't see the difference between being able to label the virtual buttons versus the much easier buttron remapping other than the former is more complicated. And being able to move HUD/UI elements around is cool and all, but games have done it before without the need of a touchscreen and I think it is another needless complications.
I'm not saying there aren't things that the controller/handheld would be able to do that it either couldn't or couldn't do as easily/intuitively. I just think it makes things more complicated and expensive for Nintendo for almost no benefit.
And this doesn't even take into account the portability if it's the handheld or the impracticality of using a second screen for games that are being played on a TV (especially given how the screen is such a prominent part of this prototype design).
As a handheld product, this doesn't make much sense. As a controller for a home console, this makes less sense. And as a Nintendo product, it doesn't make any sense.
I'm just not seeing it, and most if not all of the explanations and reasoning for this seem so much harder to justify than that (in my opinion) the much, much simpler explanation that this is fake.
Here are 16:9 and 4:3 screenshots from pre-patched Bioshock (an UE3 game) overlayed on top of each other.
When moving to a wider format, the horizontal field of view remains the same, causing the scene to be cropped vertically.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bioshock_widescreen.jpg
No idea why in the NX photo it seems to be cropped from the top of that other photo. Could be a quirk from the demo. I'm not familiar enough with Unreal Engine or that matching screenshot to know.
Could be fake and cropped from the top to avoid a watermark or something, but I personally don't think so.
We've been looking at this from the wrong angle
Your temple on your head controls the annologues
Can ya feel me?
Until you realize there are no face buttons, making the game completely unplayable.
Father_Brain
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If by "fine" you mean "somewhere between GC and Wii U LTDs," maybe!
Graphics Horse
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i see two (the sticks)
honestly my biggest disappointmebt would be if the scroulder wheels are the only finger buttons. some nicely shaped buttons on the reverse side would be great, but I've never seen it done on a handheld aside from vita's overeager touchpanel.
Fujinn
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And your thumb covering the health bar, a key element of the hud...
We'll work on that after we settle the logistics of how Nintendo is going to buy this back from Rare/Microsoft.
Agent Unknown
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Makes sense.
Also
at Rosti's post, so apparently it might at least be prototype related?But I'm not as familiar with Rosti's insider history, can someone give a rundown of posts he's made that turned out to be spot on ahead of time?
BlueSilver
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You blink to fire the gun. EZPZ
Dry eyes would suck to have.
Edit: Maybe I'll refrain from posting until I'm fully awake. =P
please go play a random game from your library using only analog sticks and maybe shoulder buttons.
let us know how that goes
edit: unrelated, these photoshops are now making the analog sticks resemble nipples. Someone please photoshop (man) nipples onto the gamepad, thank you.
ForsakenLotus
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The only fundamental difference I can think of would be literally moving the button placement. I definitely don't think it would be worth it for the cost and other things about the design I don't like, but that is something. Otherwise, it's just a fancy version of button remapping.
Agent Gibbs
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If those sticks are the same size as the WiiU analogue sticks, would that make the size of the screen roughly the size of the WiiU screen? so overall its of a similar scale to the WiiU controller if a little smaller due to the shape?
Like this...
now thats impressive
That's a bit of a stretch isn't it? I can see shoulder buttons and analog sticks. You'd need a button for changing weapons and a button for reloading/opening doors. Add 2 touch buttons and it's completely playable.
CharminUltra
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It's not Nintendo's fault that our hands aren't transparent, is it?
Graphics Horse
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Yeah stop victim blaming.
ElectricBlanketFire
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Eh some of our hands probably come pretty close.
ForsakenLotus
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Honestly, I don't see how that explains anything. The prototype is showing about 25% of the total screen compared to the demo with seemingly no stretching. It's not a slight skewing or stretching of perspective but instead is cropping 75% of the screen. I just think that is very odd.
Rösti happens to be one of the nicer posters here on GAF, always providing useful info and facts, digging up patents etc. To see some turn on him because they don't understand one of his posts is sad.
For what it's worth, he also said he has no intention of trolling anyone - and I believe that.
For what it's worth, he also said he has no intention of trolling anyone - and I believe that.
For those that 'don't see the point', I don't think there needs to be one. If you look at the smartphone and TV market, curved TVs and the Galaxy Edge don't serve much purpose other than to grab consumers attention - this would definitely do that. The real innovation probably lies more with the shared game library between the console and handheld that's been rumoured.
He's a trusted source, to me, and has proven to have had inside info in the past. I trust him.
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Did he comment further? I see Lump's post above -- what was misunderstood that he said, just his original ASCII post?
LordOcidax
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You still have the a clear 16:9 area on the center but with wider field of view. So i think it could work.
I think it's a hollow 3d printed model with a sticker of the scene and with a small light bulb inside so it looks like it's lit, like a screen would do, that is why it looks so bright in some areas since it's not uniformly lit
That also explains why it doesn't show signs to be photoshoped
When you say 25% of the total screen are you referring to this?
It doesn't really line up. The pillar lines up, but nothing else does.
Meanwhile, this:
Looks like it lines up perfectly, and is the full width. Not 25% of the screen.
In the UE4 demo, the camera flies through the scene where both comparison shots were taken from.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMcscM_Hogc#t=5s
The most telling part of this entire debacle to me is the hardcore gamer demographic's response to this rumor. Most seem so set on believing it, not only because it's convincing looking, but because everyone is expecting for Nintendo to drop the ball again when it comes to "taking care" of us. I hope Nintendo comes prepared.
It doesn't matter if your fingers are there because it's in your peripheral vision. It's going to be fuzzy anyway, so it's not hurting to have extra screen space there even with thumbs being there too. It's not about having major action happening on the edges of the screen. It's just about having a leaf blowing in the wind the disappears naturally into your peripheral vision rather than just hitting a border. It's about rays of light extending further rather than being cut off at a hard edge. Not a huge deal, but nice, and certainly not "bad".
And I don't think they're going the haptic route either. Everything I said was said assuming that traditional buttons would still be there. Those real buttons would not change (unless they were transparent and unlabeled, allowing that to change because of light or screen underneath them), but extra touch screen options could be on screen in addition to the regular buttons just like the DS. Except now, you could move them wherever you wanted so you could actually reach them consistently, unlike the DS. And not many console games allow customizing the HUD to such a degree. That's more of a PC thing. So it would be cool to see it more widespread.
And of course, if Nintendo actually makes something well-shaped and ergonomic (as this leak is not), then I could see an extended screen working really well.
Not amazing stuff, and if the cost is too high might not be worth it. But if the cost isn't too high, then it would only add to the overall experience, not detract.
Milly Osworth
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Doesn't look too bad actually.
That looks cool, but if it's a handheld it wont have those handles/grips.
Totally. The gif also shows how this setup amplifies the peripherical view adding and not substracting anything from a normal screen.
I still hope for physical face buttons,aside the great software programmable inputs on the touch.
Scrollable shoulder buttons are godly on paper
It looks neat I guess but I'm not seeing what the benefits would be other than portability. Ok so you can place buttons wherever you want (maybe). So?
But the biggest thing to me is that it doesn't seen at all ergonomic to someone's hands. That's what Nintendo is best at, making a comfortable controller and this doesn't seem like it would be at all comfortable. Granted, an early prototype might be light on comfort over practicality, but you'd think it'd be a little more refined.
But the biggest thing to me is that it doesn't seen at all ergonomic to someone's hands. That's what Nintendo is best at, making a comfortable controller and this doesn't seem like it would be at all comfortable. Granted, an early prototype might be light on comfort over practicality, but you'd think it'd be a little more refined.
Exactly. It's not photo shopped, but a printed screen grab from ue4 demo, and probably lit with a white Christmas light that masked by the port dongle.
Also explains the black censor box that's hiding the rest of the cord.
This is the exact frame that was used. You can tell from the various parallax elements that converge at that moment ( pillars, branches etc. ).
Quick & dirty perspective overlay ( close enough though ) ...
Thank goodness it's fake, I was actually worried that Nintendo thought that was a good idea.
Although I guess it's possible that they photoshopped it in order to cover up what was actually on the screen.
But he could just be annoyed about leaks. Maybe he has info that Nintendo is going to go in this free form display route but doesn't know how it looks exactly. He could have saw it was close to the patent and assumed it was real.
It seems likely to be a fake personally but that doesn't mean there isn't any truth in it.
friskykillface
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Yeah if either of my hands are covering health or part of the map/area I'll consider this a bad handheld X controller
Just doesn't make sense to me tbh
Just doesn't make sense to me tbh
Chittagong
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Shouldn't this be locked now that it's a confirmed fake?
Really well done one this time, 3D printed parts and expertly photoshopped screen, goddam
Really well done one this time, 3D printed parts and expertly photoshopped screen, goddam
Plinko
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Did I miss the post where this was confirmed fake?
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