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Digital Foundry : Should you install The Witcher 3's day one patch ( XO version )
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RedAssedApe
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how is the framepacing compared to bloodborne? i recall people complaining about that too...but it never bothered me
same with RE:HD on PS4
same with RE:HD on PS4
Nowhere near as bad.
Cyborg
Member
I read its much better on Witcher 3
Cthulhu_Steev
Member
Well this is what I'm waiting on before I plunge for the game - it's not really my type of game, so I'm not too worried if I miss it, but I'd certainly like to give it a go. The promised Bloodborne framepacing fix hadn't arrived last time I looked, so I'm still waiting on that.
I'd rather play at solid 25fps then a fluctuating 30, if it's predictable and steady I can work around it in the low numbers.
Yeah, it really needs to be addressed soon. I believe CDP will fix it. The question is when. Well, I hope ASAP. BTW, I was making a reference to Bloodborne
dragonelite
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Yeah, it really needs to be addressed soon. I believe CDP will fix it. The question is when. Well, I hope ASAP. BTW, I was making a reference to Bloodborne
Really hope the release a hotfix before the weekend
For which game? Both are plagued with the same issues. Though one is bloodier than the otherReally hope the release a hotfix before the weekend
Yeah, it really needs to be addressed soon. I believe CDP will fix it. The question is when. Well, I hope ASAP. BTW, I was making a reference to Bloodborne
I dont remember bloodborne being so bad to be honest. And I pretty much destroyed that game for more than 100+ hours. Witcher 3 seems to stutter very bad during just simple navigation. Dunno maybe its just my idea.
dragonelite
Member
For which game? Both are plagued with the same issues. Though one is bloodier than the other
The witcher 3 off course, don't have a ps4 yet gonna wait for E3 before deciding if im
getting one this year.
Also it seems like a lot people expected the witcher 3 to downscale from 1080p
to 900p instead of upscale from 900p to 1080p?
RedAssedApe
Banned
so its not as bad as bloodborne...which i didn't even notice at all. sounds like it should be a non-issue. for me at least. woot.
If you've watched the Gamersyde comparison video and didn't notice then you should be fine. I'm sure it will vary from person to person.
According to a few others here, Bloodborne's frame pacing issue seems worse?
Perhaps, it could be me. I just want this fixed...
why have the framerate unlcoked anyway?
dragonelite
Member
Is CDProjectRed informed about people wanting a 30fps cap?
Perhaps, it could be me. I just want this fixed...
why have the framerate unlcoked anyway?
But Bloodborne's framerate jumps to 31 max. Most of the time fps is around 30.
But of course, it has drops in some fights.
And a fix for stuttering if the framerate lock wont fix it?
Like I said before I am of the opinion to create a performance thread (consoles) for this issue.
If it is good enough to grab some attention and get this fixed, it would be great.
Dude, I think it's just you. From the start, you were overly worried of this game's performancePerhaps, it could be me. I just want this fixed...
why have the framerate unlcoked anyway?
thelastword
Banned
Not in the case of the xbone, the xbone struggles to hit a solid framerate in many games at a locked 900p, I don't see how a dynamic resolution helps it there at all. With that being said, it's the very reason that all attempts of dynamic resolution on the xbone has been bullshit thusfar. It was bullshit in COD-AW and it's bullshit here as well.
I'm not saying they weren't there, but I didn't notice any stuttering or frame-pacing issues in Bloodborne and I've played through to NG+. It will be interesting to see if I have the same experience with TW3.
dragonelite
Member
Could informative for others, the more people know of these framerate issues the better
it might inspire devs to go for a locked and capped 30 fps game.
Not release a game that goes from 31~37 all the time not holding a steady pacing.
Jessie.Bristol
Member
I wanted to start the game today, but don't know if I should as I would absolutely hate the constant stuttering. Just have my digital copy sitting there, not sure if I should pull the trigger and start it. I just know the stuttering will cause a major headache...
I haven't really noticed any major issues for PS4. Bloodborne was a closed environment (except maybe the forest) and it had the problem pretty noticeable, but Witcher seems pretty smooth to me. When I pan my camera around, it is fairly smooth, and when I am moving Geralt, it is DEFINITELY smoother than in BB. Can't say anything about the XB1 version though.
Windom Earle
Member
Really really weird that they did not at least offer the option of locking it. PC version even has a slider where you can select the framerate you want to lock the game at.
BuffetChamp
Banned
Which games are struggling to stay at 30 fps, 900P resolution? Maybe a rushed to launch game such as Dead Rising 3 sure. You even said "many games" which ones are they?
I've played for approximately 2 hours on ps4, the frame pacing "issues" are really, really minor, there have been a few hitches during cut scenes but actual gameplay is pretty damn smooth especially compared to what ive seen of the xbox one version.
EDIT:: oops, forgot i was posting in an xbox one thread, sorry :/
Jessie.Bristol
Member
Yeah, I have the game downloaded on my Xbox One but without the 30fps cap (like the PS4 version has), I don't know how smooth the game will be. I just looked at Digital Foundry's Patch 1.01 video again at 1080p60 and it didn't seem too bad. The pre-rendered cut-scenes had some notable stutter but the actual gameplay seemed fine.
I'll probably start it up and see how it goes...
I can't say for sure, I don't have a PS4 yet. But when I do get Bloodborne, I doubt I would notice the frame pacing issues unless it's a major issue. I'm not very sensitive to frame rate drops and judder but I do notice the big ones.
It was tolerable to me but frame pacing issues in general suck. They are very common in some areas like the one in the video I linked, and that's just a 30 fps capture of Bloodborne.
https://youtu.be/4cO_0J43bOY
I really hope CDPR fixes the frame pacing quickly.
Same, I may not notice it, but I hope this issue is fixed in both games.
Yep. It runs terribly on PS4 from what I've read so far as well. Considering the fact that they're still working to improve the framerate on Day One, makes me wonder if the game was even finished in the first place. But it's year 2015. This is the norm today. XD
So if the frame rate on the PS4 version is terrible, what would you call the frame rate on the XB1 version?
What you've read is wrong.
Jessie.Bristol
Member
I've checked the forums and their twitter accounts and haven't seen them mention anything about it.
The Inventor
Member
Sorry, Valkyrie, but if there's stuttering, framerate isn't solid. Maybe you meant you can play without much of a problem like me on X1. It's safe to say now both platforms need another patch to fix this.
psychotron
Member
It doesn't run terrible. Some cutscenes stutter and there's odd crashes and graphical glitches like the black water video I posted. Aside from that, I'm actually pretty happy with how the frame rate is holding up when riding the horse of engaging enemies. All of the "major" issues should be fixable with patches.
Jessie.Bristol
Member
Stuttering can be caused by frame pacing issues as well, even if frame rate is capped at 30fps.
I think it's forced by the almighty marketing dollars of their overlord. Not exactly their fault, OK maybe 20% oof the fault. This is FF7 level of scam marketing. Didn't square got sued?
theytookourjobz
Junior Member
Same here. Haven't noticed any issues.
Same here, after the intro its been smooth and enjoyable. I'd encourage those waiting for a patch to play it and see for yourself. No game breaking issues so far.
Glomby
Member
I think there is way to much hyperbole in this thread.
I don't know if anybody brought it up yet but the Xbox one patch has to be bugged.
You literally can't have a dynamic framerate AND a dynamic resolution. That's impossible. If you, let's say, look up into the sky you're framerate would skyrocket and therefore put more load on the gpu. The resolution will never go up with an unlocked framerate ever.
However, if your framerate is locked and you look up into the sky your gpu will have way less to do and you can easily afford a higher framerate.
Since the W3 has an unlocked resolution the dynamic resolution will simply never work or at least almost never and that's exactly what's going on here. This is simply a bug and people already wanna sue CDPR for this....
Once they properly lock the framerate they can not only fix the stuttering/ frame pacing but the dynamic resolution will actually work outside of menus as well.
I don't know if anybody brought it up yet but the Xbox one patch has to be bugged.
You literally can't have a dynamic framerate AND a dynamic resolution. That's impossible. If you, let's say, look up into the sky you're framerate would skyrocket and therefore put more load on the gpu. The resolution will never go up with an unlocked framerate ever.
However, if your framerate is locked and you look up into the sky your gpu will have way less to do and you can easily afford a higher framerate.
Since the W3 has an unlocked resolution the dynamic resolution will simply never work or at least almost never and that's exactly what's going on here. This is simply a bug and people already wanna sue CDPR for this....
Once they properly lock the framerate they can not only fix the stuttering/ frame pacing but the dynamic resolution will actually work outside of menus as well.
Seems weird to try dynamic resolution but not lock the framerate. Other games that use dynamic res drop the resolution when the framerate is at risk at dropping below the target, but here there is no consistent baseline, it just wobbles between 30-40fps. Perhaps the res is dropping whenever it is below 60fps, which is everywhere in the game except the title screen.
Hugh Swank
Member
Your experience is in-line with many accounts I've read across the web. Seems most people report a very smooth & enjoyable experience with the XB1 version, with a few reports of occasional (minor) stutter in a cut-scene.
I'm picking-up my copy in T-minus 45 min. I'll post here later on this evening and give you the low-down on my personal experience.
Except the framerate doesn't skyrocket when you look at the sky. The game pretty much just continues to perform the same.
Probably because the game is maintaining 30-37 fps at 900p there probably isn't any overhead to go above it really. We have to wait for the full DF analysis to see. But really the res is not dynamic it is almost always 900p except for specific indoor areas. Either their dynamic res programming is broken or they consider the cutscenes changing res to be dynamic.
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