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Greenberg: Quantum Break is not coming to Steam
- Thread starter chadskin
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Why? It's built in to the Windows 10 OS. The Windows Store is sticking around as long as Windows does.
Go ahead and try to download some GFWL content that you bought around the same time.
Hint: You can't.
That's where the 'narrative' is coming from.
vasametropolis
Member
I can see the downsides to this, but if MS actually sees it through this time I think they will succeed regardless.
Selling it on the store and having it be hooked into the Xbox services makes total sense even if we don't like it. It's just like Origin or Uplay. However, the restrictive app packaging - while consistent with their strategy (hence why they have their own game DVR etc.) - may be more likely to bite them in the ass at some point.
If they go this route they need to provide compelling alternatives in their own ecosystem. Or, they could preferably just support good old x86 executables for "PC games" so all the injectors and third party software works.
I know people are citing the failure of GFWL, but it feels different this time. I think they will see it through.
Selling it on the store and having it be hooked into the Xbox services makes total sense even if we don't like it. It's just like Origin or Uplay. However, the restrictive app packaging - while consistent with their strategy (hence why they have their own game DVR etc.) - may be more likely to bite them in the ass at some point.
If they go this route they need to provide compelling alternatives in their own ecosystem. Or, they could preferably just support good old x86 executables for "PC games" so all the injectors and third party software works.
I know people are citing the failure of GFWL, but it feels different this time. I think they will see it through.
okay, shit, let's list it so maybe people stop with the "lol steam DRM fanboys" stuff
advantages of Steam:
- platform where your friends are
- platform you already use where are all your games are, no need to divide it
- no need to start using yet ANOTHER storefront / account / CC info / what have you
- ability to use your Steam credit you earned to buy the game rather than your money
- screenshots
- achievements
- guides
- all these within overlay
- SALES, chance for the game to go cheaper
- the fact that every other storefront has had one way to fuck up or another. be it lost saves, file corruption, slow downloads, whatever the fuck
- this alternative is virtually GFWL 2.0 which was by far the worse of all these other storefronts
do you really "don't see" why some people might not like this and just chalk it up to "PEOPLE ARE NEVER HAPPY?"
I just assume people who say this arent familiar with the platform
thankfully the game will come to Steam eventually cause that's where PC games sell and they ultimately want their game to sell.
I recognize that managing history can be difficult, I also acknowledged those who think the Windows store is a POS, because it is (but it still works for most of us) and lastly I certainly feel for those who can get W10 working properly; that said, net net PC gamers are better off with QB (and other Xbox platform exclusives) coming out to them.
So considering the above, I just find that our complaining about the Windows store (except those with legitimate technical issues) as being downright petty and embarrassing.
We're better than that GAF.
Why? Are they suddenly going to undo everything they did wrong with the Rise of the Tomb Raider release?
Are they going to permit:
Overlays?
FPS counters?
Graphical modding?
OBS?
ShadowPlay?
Their track record leaves a LOT to be desired here and unless you know something that the rest of us don't, I won't be holding my breath.
You don't think that making this exclusive to a platform many people want nothing to do with isn't an even bigger avenue for potential lost revenues than if they put it on Steam/Origin/GOG/etc.?
legacyzero
Banned
Devils advocate: It's no wonder EA and Microsoft wont put their games on Steam. Doesn't Valve want like %30?
GHG
Gold Member
Do you really want people to start telling you the horror stories of GFWL? Do you really not know?
Yes.
Most people will buy from the MS Store anyways.
Steam fanboys are a vocal minority.
Then the people who want it on Steam won't buy it then. Seems like people are fine with Steam or bust.
Data to back that up?
metareferential
Member
Well, it's on pc but it's like it wasn't there actually.
It's treated like any other "app" from their store, which means you can't do anything (and it means that your hardware won't work as intended).
But since it's a Remedy game, I have some faith.
Still, not buying it day-one as I did for Tomb Raider.
abracadaver
Member
Every digital store but Humble takes a 30% cut. Every one.
EA sells their games on non-Steam stores, by the way.
Enter the Dragon Punch
Banned
Because it's Direct X 12 exclusive and there is literally no excuse to not upgrade if you're playing games.
There is none, as there's a single AAA game on it that's also available on Steam.
Anecdotally, I've never met anyone who's used the store at all.
biglittleps
Member
GFWL faced that fate because they were doing great with XBox360, but now with Xbone they are not and also landscape changed a lot in PC due to steam and other storefronts gaining a lot for selling games last few years which they did not expect. So they've learned a lesson and now laying their future foundations using their Win 10 as a platform, so we can expect better support this time instead of GFWL mostly because we already seeing change as they are trying to support by releasing many of their AAA exclusives to PC. Give them some time like a year and you will see their support to PC. I'm really looking forward to their Feb 25th event and hope they will make their message clear this time.
That mindset is ridiculous, to be honest.
my butt
W10 store with real games will probably debut with Killer Insctinct, right?
we'll see numbers, we'll see what happens with QB, we'll see if Remedy pushes to actually sell their game on PC on a platform that's already established and where games sell the most by far
it'd be a stupid move in a list of stupid moves they've done and supposedly want to change (MS, that is)
it'll be a timed exclusive to W10 store for sure
robertlebrone
Member
Eh, don't care. It will play just fine either way. I'm not one of those people that has hard on for Steam though. I have no issues with Origin, Uplay, GoG, etc on PC. What's one more?
Why?
Since Remedy knows PC gaming very well, I'm hoping they'll try to offer in-game options to make up for the lack of third party software compatibility.
So, a proper framepaced 30fps lock, in-game fps counter and stuff like that. I have no idea how likely it is, but it would be nice.
So, a proper framepaced 30fps lock, in-game fps counter and stuff like that. I have no idea how likely it is, but it would be nice.
Are you high or something they did a UI redesign last year.
Have you read the thread? The store has plenty of flaws for gaming.
Ocarina_117
Banned
It's odd that people cited the increased sales being a good drive for QB to release on PC given the situation of AW's sales. Now that it's not releasing on steam people are upset and declaring their lack of intention to go anywhere near the game.
Yes I understand the lack of features is annoying as of now. With Microsoft looking like they're gearing up substantial PC support in order to lay the basis for their platform, whose to say things won't change? I mean at least give it til the upcoming event to see what they have planned before giving up hope.
This steam or no buy epitomizes the entitlement held by some gamers. I mean be glad the game is available on your platform of choice?
Yes I understand the lack of features is annoying as of now. With Microsoft looking like they're gearing up substantial PC support in order to lay the basis for their platform, whose to say things won't change? I mean at least give it til the upcoming event to see what they have planned before giving up hope.
This steam or no buy epitomizes the entitlement held by some gamers. I mean be glad the game is available on your platform of choice?
It's steam or any store closed?
Locked to windows store, win 10 only, who's to bet bad sales performances (if any) will be cited because it was PC and not the other two aforementioned stipulations of playing.
I think it's more a worry from those of us who've witnessed Microsoft's attempts at a content delivery platform being really, really bad.
I can understand if you haven't been around PC gaming that long, you don't even need to have had the problem yourself to know the wider spread issue like myself; was okay for me for the most part but others? Neeeewp.
I think it's more a worry from those of us who've witnessed Microsoft's attempts at a content delivery platform being really, really bad.
I can understand if you haven't been around PC gaming that long, you don't even need to have had the problem yourself to know the wider spread issue like myself; was okay for me for the most part but others? Neeeewp.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Origin and uplay devalues those arguments IMO. PC is already a slightly fragmented storefront experience so one more won't kill you
Can you add win 10 store games to steam as a 'non steam game'?
post #206
Uplay games are sold on Steam
Origin lives and dies with MP shooters established before storefronts were a thing (battlefield, battlefront, etc)
Err that's like the flat rate for all digital storefronts. PSN, Xbox live, App Store, Amazon, GMG, whatevethefuck
But yeah if MS has their own store it's ok for them to make it exclusive. It's not evil or whatever.
It just sucks for me and what I want. I'm ok with waiting. I'm not like super angry about it.
abracadaver
Member
Won't buy on the W10 store. Not even for $10 from some shady 3rd world country marketplace
Give me Steam version or fuck off
Give me Steam version or fuck off
metareferential
Member
Yes, but games are treated by the OS as any other .exe.
That means we can do what we want, and use third party software.
Win10 store doesn't allow for this. And it's bad.
30% is industry standard for digital games (physical games is around 50-50).
EA does sell their games on other places too, where they have to give 30% cut not just on Steam. (Probably because Valve requires games to download from Steam and not just give actiation code).
I don't anybody contests that. They just don't care. I'll restate that I won't touch it until it no longer is a UWA. I don't really care for a compromised experience.
I personally have no interst in having 3+ clients/storefronts on my PC.
google around and find out what platform had more issues
and by google around I mean open your eyes at whatever on the internet basically, cause the badness of GFWL is as widespread as the dankest meme
Again, the Windows 10 store implements app restrictions that simply aren't present on any other PC storefront. You can't run anything with an overlay (like FRAPS), can't use third party software like Shadowplay to record footage, can't install graphics mods like ReShade.
Kane Zakharov
Banned
For those of you who don't get why some of us aren't particularly fond of Windows Store and moves like this from Microsoft:
I'm generally fine with pretty much any client/storefront other than Windows Store. I simply do not have any confidence in them.
I'm generally fine with pretty much any client/storefront other than Windows Store. I simply do not have any confidence in them.
You already have the MS one though. It's baked in to Windows 10.
Steam is not the be-all-end-all of PC gaming, lol
If hardcore Steam folks are gonna skip out because of the MS Store, that's their loss.
Agreed.
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
Well, they got me. So mission accomplished I guess.
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