SteveWinwood
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HHG is a joke. You can at least attempt to take yourself a little seriously.
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Marcus Beer vs ECA Ambassador "Hip Hop Gamer" Twitter feud
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28 Posts Later
Member
I'm pretty terrible at spotting it via text so just to make sure: Is this satire?
Are we reading the same thing??
"For the first time in our franchise history, Medal of Honor Warfighter is not directly based on a single historical event. Instead, the story is inspired by multiple real world events connected by a single terror threat."
HHG specifically states they are inspired by real world events. Man people are trying to find anything to tear him down with.
Hard to tell since there are actual HHG apologists out there, especially on Twitter and attacking Marcus since that video hit
KingItachi
Member
You should do some research about Marcus, this should help you.
http://www.linkedin.com/in/marcusbeer
Please stop this. People are entitled to their own opinion without having guys like you coming in telling them their opinion is wrong.
...In the words of the virgin mary....come again?
The problem is that he literally contradicts himself in the second half of his sentence with "Guess What these missions are inspired by true events and these locations are REAL and what happens in this game ACTUALLY HAPPENED, AMAZING".
Nothing in Medal of Honor: Warfighter, outside of coincidence, actually happened. He is lying. Or at the very least being so disingenuous as to make it difficult to take anything he says about video games seriously.
Jathaine
Member
Doesn't seem like he was intentionally telling any mistruths. It honestly looks like he misunderstood... as sad as that may be.
Petrae
Member
Nice guy aside, hard work aside... when you do negative things and later ask to represent a political lobby group, you open yourself up to criticism from Beer, Kuchera, and anyone else.
Being a nice guy or a passionate guy doesn't automatically rewrite history. Ask politicians about that. Stuff you do stays with you no matter how nice you are or how you intend to rebuild yourself. The onus will be on HHG to prove that he can change.
TheDelanator
Banned
New subject line ought to be: Hip Hop Gamer proves Marcus' point.
You do realize the people EA consulted about the missions they spoke about were reprimanded by the US Goverment? Yes, I'm sure the government would punish people for giving information that wasn't true.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidth...manded-for-work-on-medal-of-honor-warfighter/
I think you're giving him a little too much credit. Isn't the more likely situation that he considers "inspired by true events" to be the same as a retelling of a story that happened in real life with only the minor details like times and names being altered, similar to how people who think movies that are "based on true events" are non-fiction?
And I don't think you're giving either the US armed forces or EA enough credit. There are reasons why actively service members of the military don't talk about what's going on in a warzone, to a video game company, to anyone.
Jest Chillin
Member
Are you sure about that? If it was written by T1 Operators overseas.. it stands to reason that the scenarios are based on real scenarios. What specifically happened in those scenarios is likely changed but there is reason to believe that they generally happened.
I get what you're saying but it's kind of dancing on a fine line. It's like saying the movie Black Hawk Down happened. We all know it's based on real events and generally what happens in the movie actually did happen.. but at the same time the story elements and the specifics aren't exactly how it went down.
28 Posts Later
Member
You very clearly did not even read the article you just directed me to.
I find that hilarious.
fvng
Member
Dismissing Marcus Beer over one comment is as bad as dismissing Kamiya over the eat shit comment.
Nor do I agree with dismissing a person outright because you don't agree on one particular issue. As if you can only like a person that agrees with 100% of your views.
Not exactly the most adult way of handling differing opinions.
Nor do I agree with dismissing a person outright because you don't agree on one particular issue. As if you can only like a person that agrees with 100% of your views.
Not exactly the most adult way of handling differing opinions.
RPGCrazied
Member
Who is hiphopgamer? Never heard of him.
TimeEffect
Member
What is this "passion" nonsense I hear as a quality in HHG?
KillerTravis
Banned
Does he at least have some education on the journalism field? Why is he calling himself a PROFESSIONAL JOURNALIST on those tweets?
The only video I've seen of this guy was when he was interviewing a Sony PR about the new Playstation Store and he was annoying as hell. I felt sorry for the poor guy being interviewed.
The only video I've seen of this guy was when he was interviewing a Sony PR about the new Playstation Store and he was annoying as hell. I felt sorry for the poor guy being interviewed.
He works for EGM.
I have no idea what his credentials are.
I doubt he has a degree in Journalism or anything. He probably just calls himself that because he provides written work for a games publication. Which is fine, I don't particularly take issue with him calling himself a journalist.
Certainly not anymore than most other games "journalists" out there.
Jest Chillin
Member
He's not. He's referencing that AG's criticism about HHG's qualifications as a journalist while not doing his due diligence in talking to HHG about the incidents he references to get the full story. It's a pointless tact though since it wasn't a story that AG delivered but an opinion piece.
outunderthestars
Banned
Exactly. A former PR shill complaining that a current PR shill was appointed to be the shill for an organization that nobody cares about.
videogamephilosopher
Banned
This is sad for a lot of different reasons. There will be no winners in this senseless feud.
They both need to grow in particular areas in regards to game journalism.
They both need to grow in particular areas in regards to game journalism.
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velociraptor
Junior Member
I've seen a few HHG videos. He seems like a nice guy, but why does he have to ascribe to the 'keeping it treal' stereotype? And why carry a fake WWE championship belt? And why get involved in petty feuds on the internet?
That should actually be the title of the thread.
This really is warranting far more attention than either deserve.
outunderthestars
Banned
Personally I would call both of them gaming "personalities" rather than journalists.
Glorified G
Member
I wonder if this will be brought up in the next 'Beef' dvd.
Net_Wrecker
Member
Bahahahaha, he's like THE demographic they were going after with MoH. Impressed by literally everything even though barely anything is happening.
What's hilarious? The article obviously said:
I'm sure the SEALs showed up, showed them some equipment, and walked off like "Bring that back on Tuesday!" /s It's ok though. Obviously nothing being said is going to change yours or anybody's mind so it's a moot point.
Then give reasons for it outside of "he's just really passionate!". That's not an excuse for theft, plagiarism or outright lying.
Jesus H, how many people actually played Warfighter? I don't remember seeing a port in Pakistan explode on the news. Or an arms dealer's private army attacking NATO soldiers in Bosnia. And you compare this to the well-documented events in Somalia that led to the US's withdrawl? What the hell do they teach kids in school these days?
edit:
I'm confused. Are you now agreeing or disagreeing that the article you linked to directly contradicts what you said and that it's everyone else's fault that they're now not going to change their minds and believe your version of events?
mugoldeneagle03
Member
I thought I came to GAF to get away from the HipHopGamer articles, blah
Years ago I ran into his stuff a lot over at N4G and to be honest it was never really good. The videos were probably the best part, and even then I watched them to see how embarrassed the people being interviewed would look, making them put on his belt...
His staff (if that's what it is) was way worse, and almost every single article had some sort of flame-bait sensationalist headline, got to the point where even the community over there would just give him shit immediately upon posting.
Haven't even heard of him since, but apparently he's still around. I got no hate for what he does, if he loves writing about video games then by all means write away. I do have a problem with how he goes about it, which is why I simply don't read. Simple as that.
Years ago I ran into his stuff a lot over at N4G and to be honest it was never really good. The videos were probably the best part, and even then I watched them to see how embarrassed the people being interviewed would look, making them put on his belt...
His staff (if that's what it is) was way worse, and almost every single article had some sort of flame-bait sensationalist headline, got to the point where even the community over there would just give him shit immediately upon posting.
Haven't even heard of him since, but apparently he's still around. I got no hate for what he does, if he loves writing about video games then by all means write away. I do have a problem with how he goes about it, which is why I simply don't read. Simple as that.
Jest Chillin
Member
Yes let's nitpick the most outrageous aspects of the story in Warfighter as if that's what I was referring to.
this.
28 Posts Later
Member
The article directly contradicts that which you claimed [that, within the context of a discussion regarding the quote "what happens in this game ACTUALLY HAPPENED, AMAZING", soldiers were reprimanded due to the accuracy of the games portrayal of true events]. I'm not even sure what you're trying to argue anymore, but it has nothing to do with the original debate regarding the accuracy of the narrative.
outunderthestars
Banned
What is the most sad is that bullshit "twitter feuds" like this will get more attention than the quality reporting and writing that many gaming journalists are producing using less bombastic and embarrassing public personas.
SteveWinwood
Member
I don't know how you could say that after what you wrote in the first place.
Everyone wants to be the next Doritos pope.
I always confuse him with Total Biscuit.
I can dismiss the showman stuff: the walking around with the belt and the clownshoes carnival barker persona. I guess you need that to entertain the masses.
When one bag of freebies isn't enough, when your greed takes over and you're -- there's no other word for it -- stealing multiple tchotchke bags and calling people you don't like terrible names, well, then you've crossed the line. That stuff is unforgivable.
When one bag of freebies isn't enough, when your greed takes over and you're -- there's no other word for it -- stealing multiple tchotchke bags and calling people you don't like terrible names, well, then you've crossed the line. That stuff is unforgivable.
Well, I've never been so drunk, that I've talked to a beer, but hey man....whatever rustles yo jimmies
Well...it will this weekend where half the country is snowed in.
outunderthestars
Banned
Holy shit. That just made me spit out my beer. has anyone claimed "Doritos Pope" as their user name?