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[EGM1966]

That's usually how significant these two months are.

This is why I'm a bit exasperated Sony isn't competing with MS this holiday season.

I know they are in a position of power, but I can't help but feel that they are taking MS's desperation for granted.

If Sony as a whole was profitable and in good shape I'm sure they'd be tempted to eat some margin and deliver a possibly killer blow.

But they're not. As things stand I suspect Sony are willing to risk losing next two months in US so long as they retain overall lead (which they almost certainly will do), sell lots themselves (which they almost certainly will do) and most importantly make a profit.

MS are almost certainly eating a lot of margin now and over peak trading. They can afford to though.

I'd imagine Sony figure the following:
MS sell most but not that much more than Sony - decent probability of happening and not a bad outcome for Sony although gives MA a PR win
Sony pip MS at the post - smaller probability but not that unlikely and if it happens a big PR win plus they didn't eat any margin to achieve it
MS massively outsells Sony - very unlikely and not worth risking margin to proactively try and prevent it

Sony bundles seem solid and overall they have the momentum. Most likely they're only risking MS catching up fractionally and getting some short lived PR.

 

[benny_a]

So their quarters are not the same as the link I posted? I don't know so I'm honestly trying to learn....

No. Q3 for Sony is Oct Nov Dec: http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/info/calendar/index.html

According to Wikipedia 35% of companies (mainly non-English based) don't use the intuitive way of using quarters.

 

[OneEyeTwoHead]

Am I the only one who's gotten tired of these stupid ironic/sarcastic/troll posts that have been flooding GAF lately?

You're not the only one. The trolling bait posts are fucking stupid and equates to thread shitting.

 

[otakukidd]

Sony last quarter resulst by exemple:

Yeah but that includes a console launch. So they are selling 2 devices instead of 1 for the 3rd and 4th quarter. I would looks at 2009 to 2012s quarterly sales instead of last year.

 

[Cornbread78]

I didn't realise misterxmedia had a gaf account.

Aaron, Phil, Major, TimDog or Misterx? Nobody else could come up with that, damn..

Dun dun dun, who is the real open mouth?

 

[mangochutney]

But he isn't even correct, Q3 sells the most, and that is July, August, September, at least according to Sonys sale figures last year....And that was with PS4 launching in Q4 as well...


Can someone share Microsofts 2013 quarterlys?

It will be their financial year quarters.

So if their financial year begins April (commonly does for a lot of companies) then Q3 is October, November, December.

 

[Yaphett Kotto]

As I shrewdly predicted before the start of this generation, the Xbox One has taken a leadership position in the North American console market right before the most critical holiday shopping season of recent memory. You could say they took the bull by the horn and are riding her like secretariat all the way to the finish line.

More gaming dollars are spent in the November and December months than in the rest of the year combined, so positioning the Xbox One console and game bundles at a family-friendly $349.99 price point before Sony has any chance to scramble together a legitimate response is, simply put, a stroke of marketing genius.

If the early reports are any indication, the Xbox One now not only has the value share with it's lower price point, it is winning back the hearts and minds of gamers with envelope-pushing, blockbuster AAA next-generation software like Assassin's Creed Black Flag, Assassin's Creed Unity, Sunset Overdrive, and Halo: Master Chief Collection.

In fact, earlier in the week, one top industry media outlet wrote about how Sony's momentum with the Playstation 4 could be coming to a screeching halt due to the lack of compelling exclusive software on that platform. Add to that the recent network issues of Sony's network and launch difficulties of key games like Driveclub and Assassin's Creed Unity, and you have a recipe for potential disaster.

With nearly 10 million Xbox One's sold in compared to 13.5 million Playstation 4's shipped at last count, the tides seem to be turning faster than anyone could have predicted. Last generation, the tag phrase was the first to 10 million wins, so it's only fitting that in this more advanced generation, the pundits may look back and say, "the first to 20 million" is the One who was victorious. Hope this clarifies things for you.

insert_foot_ indeed.

 

[Zephyrus]

Same, I'm a bit confused now lol



Eventually, a poster will go too far and get banned.

I enjoy reactions to these sort of posts rather then the posts themselves

after reading his post history I'm inclined to believe he meant everything he wrote in that post.

 

[big_z]

Greenberg again. Remember pre-season?

So lets entertain this tweet, do we have an estimate of how many xbone have been sold from January to October in North America? A 60/40 split should give us the minimum number for Xbox this nov/dec.

 

[3rdamention]

No. Q3 for Sony is Oct Nov Dec: http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/info/calendar/index.html

According to Wikipedia 35% of companies (mainly non-English based) don't use the intuitive way of using quarters.

Awesome dude, I have been googling, but your GoogleFu is masterful. So October, November, December for Sony is more than the other 3 combined, but with a launch in that period where console sales are highest, that would definitely be skewed...

Would be interesting to see 2012 for both companies, without the console launches....I know last year, Microsoft reported selling "over 3 million Xbox Ones" by the end of 2013.


That would make approximately 4 to 5 million sold this year already....So is it really likely that the Xbox One will sell over 4 to 5 million Xbox Ones worldwide in November and December combined? Sounds incredible if true..

So lets entertain this tweet, do we have an estimate of how many xbone have been sold from January to October in North America? A 60/40 split should give us the minimum number for Xbox this nov/dec.

Xbox One sold over 3 million in 2013.

Sales Gaf had estimated they are around 7 to 8 million as of the end of September....Which would make sense with the reported 10 million shipped "shortly" as they gear up for the holidays.

So entertaining that tweet, Greenberg expects over 4 to 5 million Xbox Ones to be sold in November and December....

 

[Wynnebeck]

Awesome dude, I have been googling, but your GoogleFu is masterful. So October, November, December for Sony is more than the other 3 combined, but with a launch in that period where console sales are highest, that would definitely be skewed...

Would be interesting to see 2012 for both companies, without the console launches....I know last year, Microsoft reported selling "over 3 million Xbox Ones" by the end of 2013.


That would make approximately 4 to 5 million sold this year already....So is it really likely that the Xbox One will sell over 4 to 5 million Xbox Ones worldwide in November and December combined? Sounds incredible if true..

Not likely at all. The only two territories where Xbone will sell this holiday season is US/UK. Even the push from them would not be enough to offset the lead PS4 has WW. In the US, the PS4's lead is over 1 million compared to Xbone. Depending on how these months play out, MS may outsell Sony, but the possibility of Sony keeping an overall lead is real.

 

[orochi91]

If Sony as a whole was profitable and in good shape I'm sure they'd be tempted to eat some margin and deliver a possibly killer blow.

But they're not. As things stand I suspect Sony are willing to risk losing next two months in US so long as they retain overall lead (which they almost certainly will do), sell lots themselves (which they almost certainly will do) and most importantly make a profit.

MS are almost certainly eating a lot of margin now and over peak trading. They can afford to though.

I'd imagine Sony figure the following:
MS sell most but not that much more than Sony - decent probability of happening and not a bad outcome for Sony although gives MA a PR win
Sony pip MS at the post - smaller probability but not that unlikely and if it happens a big PR win plus they didn't eat any margin to achieve it
MS massively outsells Sony - very unlikely and not worth risking margin to proactively try and prevent it

Sony bundles seem solid and overall they have the momentum. Most likely they're only risking MS catching up fractionally and getting some short lived PR.

All of these are fair points.

I would love to know in particular how much exactly MS has lost leading up to launch and since.

Sony conceding PR loss(es) for the holidays is something I don't want to happen, but will have to put up with D:

after reading his post history I'm inclined to believe he meant everything he wrote in that post.

We can continue to throw counter arguments at him or....

point and laugh lol

 

[Zephyrus]

All of these are fair points.

I would love to know in particular how much exactly MS has lost leading up to launch and since.

Sony conceding PR loss(es) for the holidays is something I don't want to happen, but will have to put up with D:



We can continue to throw counter arguments at him or....

point and laugh lol

I can't laugh at that. Feels wrong. Poor guy has no fault for being like that.

 

[Wynnebeck]

Sony conceding PR loss(es) for the holidays is something I don't want to happen, but will have to put up with D:

Didn't seem to affect Sony too much when they lost December last year.

 

[Ishan]

As I shrewdly predicted before the start of this generation, the Xbox One has taken a leadership position in the North American console market right before the most critical holiday shopping season of recent memory. You could say they took the bull by the horn and are riding her like secretariat all the way to the finish line.

More gaming dollars are spent in the November and December months than in the rest of the year combined, so positioning the Xbox One console and game bundles at a family-friendly $349.99 price point before Sony has any chance to scramble together a legitimate response is, simply put, a stroke of marketing genius.

If the early reports are any indication, the Xbox One now not only has the value share with it's lower price point, it is winning back the hearts and minds of gamers with envelope-pushing, blockbuster AAA next-generation software like Assassin's Creed Black Flag, Assassin's Creed Unity, Sunset Overdrive, and Halo: Master Chief Collection.

In fact, earlier in the week, one top industry media outlet wrote about how Sony's momentum with the Playstation 4 could be coming to a screeching halt due to the lack of compelling exclusive software on that platform. Add to that the recent network issues of Sony's network and launch difficulties of key games like Driveclub and Assassin's Creed Unity, and you have a recipe for potential disaster.

With nearly 10 million Xbox One's sold in compared to 13.5 million Playstation 4's shipped at last count, the tides seem to be turning faster than anyone could have predicted. Last generation, the tag phrase was the first to 10 million wins, so it's only fitting that in this more advanced generation, the pundits may look back and say, "the first to 20 million" is the One who was victorious. Hope this clarifies things for you.

Lmao I thought it was a parody post till others pointed out otherwise .... Jesus the centrifuge thousand morons comments is accurate about this post lol

 

[Doctor_Thomas]

Didn't seem to affect Sony too much when they lost December last year.

They could also make the point they were completely sold out last year. Less likely this year.

 

[benny_a]

Didn't seem to affect Sony too much when they lost December last year.

They have a whole pre-emptive damage control event in December. That's as PTSD as you can get.

 

[Wynnebeck]

They have a whole pre-emptive damage control event in December. That's as PTSD as you can get.

LOL

 

[Lemondish]

As I shrewdly predicted before the start of this generation, the Xbox One has taken a leadership position in the North American console market right before the most critical holiday shopping season of recent memory. You could say they took the bull by the horn and are riding her like secretariat all the way to the finish line.

More gaming dollars are spent in the November and December months than in the rest of the year combined, so positioning the Xbox One console and game bundles at a family-friendly $349.99 price point before Sony has any chance to scramble together a legitimate response is, simply put, a stroke of marketing genius.

If the early reports are any indication, the Xbox One now not only has the value share with it's lower price point, it is winning back the hearts and minds of gamers with envelope-pushing, blockbuster AAA next-generation software like Assassin's Creed Black Flag, Assassin's Creed Unity, Sunset Overdrive, and Halo: Master Chief Collection.

In fact, earlier in the week, one top industry media outlet wrote about how Sony's momentum with the Playstation 4 could be coming to a screeching halt due to the lack of compelling exclusive software on that platform. Add to that the recent network issues of Sony's network and launch difficulties of key games like Driveclub and Assassin's Creed Unity, and you have a recipe for potential disaster.

With nearly 10 million Xbox One's sold in compared to 13.5 million Playstation 4's shipped at last count, the tides seem to be turning faster than anyone could have predicted. Last generation, the tag phrase was the first to 10 million wins, so it's only fitting that in this more advanced generation, the pundits may look back and say, "the first to 20 million" is the One who was victorious. Hope this clarifies things for you.

Bulls are male.

 

[Cole Slaw]

You're seriously laughing at a joke about PTSD? Some real funny guys here.

 

[vpance]

They have a whole pre-emptive damage control event in December. That's as PTSD as you can get.

Dat planned 20th anniversary of desperation. Throwing oneself their own bday party is as sad as it gets

 

[Zephyrus]

Bulls are male.

surprisingly it's not the stupidiest thing one can read in that post.

 

[benny_a]

Dat planned 20th anniversary of desperation. Throwing oneself their own bday party is as sad as it gets

How convenient that they have an anniversary right before the NPD numbers come out.

 

[Lemondish]

surprisingly it's not the stupidiest thing one can read in that post.

Nothing else seemed worth challenging.

 

[orochi91]

Dat planned 20th anniversary of desperation. Throwing oneself their own bday party is as sad as it gets

How convenient that they have an anniversary right before the NPD numbers come out.

Fucking LOL

I want this exchange to be incorporated into the PS Experience OT.

 

[Cole Slaw]

Convenient because Sony isn't really that smart on its own, right?

 

[Wynnebeck]

You're seriously laughing at a joke about PTSD? Some real funny guys here.

Convenient because Sony isn't really that smart on its own, right?

What are you even going on about?

 

[jhmtehgamr20xx]

Lemme see 'bout this...

Resogun, Killzone, Knack, Infamous, MLB The Show, Last of Us Remastered, Driveclub, LBP3, Guilty Gear Xrd (might as well be), Yakuza Ishin, Hohokum, Aliennation, flOw, Flower, InFamous First Light

....

Dead Rising 3, Killer Instinct, TitanFall, Forza Horizon 2, Sunset Overdrive, Halo MCC, Crimson Dragon, D4, Dance Central, Fighter Within, Forza 5, Project Spark

Talking hard and mostly-exclusive (you won't find them on the other brand's platforms), that's...16 to 12 in PS4's favor. And yet PS4 has no gamez, hmm..

Oh that's right, they don't count if they aren't AAA, right Eurogamer? And sports games don't count, yep? So that's 8 vs 8, a bit more even eh. But wait, we obviously don't have enough filters in this brew, so let's just personally scatch off any games that aren't filled with tits and blood, and anything even slightly weeaboo. So how's that looking now, Eurogamer? Mmmhmm...I see,...that's 4 to 5.

Since the logic that appears prominent with Eurogamer can only see things in an absolute, binary fashion, 5 is greater than 4, therefore the XBO has teh gamez and PS4 haz nun.

Eurogamer: A perfect example of what's wrong with this industry these days.

As I shrewdly predicted before the start of this generation, the Xbox One has taken a leadership position in the North American console market right before the most critical holiday shopping season of recent memory. You could say they took the bull by the horn and are riding her like secretariat all the way to the finish line.

More gaming dollars are spent in the November and December months than in the rest of the year combined, so positioning the Xbox One console and game bundles at a family-friendly $349.99 price point before Sony has any chance to scramble together a legitimate response is, simply put, a stroke of marketing genius.

If the early reports are any indication, the Xbox One now not only has the value share with it's lower price point, it is winning back the hearts and minds of gamers with envelope-pushing, blockbuster AAA next-generation software like Assassin's Creed Black Flag, Assassin's Creed Unity, Sunset Overdrive, and Halo: Master Chief Collection.

In fact, earlier in the week, one top industry media outlet wrote about how Sony's momentum with the Playstation 4 could be coming to a screeching halt due to the lack of compelling exclusive software on that platform. Add to that the recent network issues of Sony's network and launch difficulties of key games like Driveclub and Assassin's Creed Unity, and you have a recipe for potential disaster.

With nearly 10 million Xbox One's sold in compared to 13.5 million Playstation 4's shipped at last count, the tides seem to be turning faster than anyone could have predicted. Last generation, the tag phrase was the first to 10 million wins, so it's only fitting that in this more advanced generation, the pundits may look back and say, "the first to 20 million" is the One who was victorious. Hope this clarifies things for you.

Is this drivel your opinion or are you acting as a medium for Hindle's consciousness?

 

[TheChewyWaffles]

Woah, microsofts worth more than google? Didn't expect that.

If anything it tells me MS is undervalued or Googled is overvalued or both.

 

[Zephyrus]

Lemme see 'bout this...

Resogun, Killzone, Knack, Infamous, MLB The Show, Last of Us Remastered, Driveclub, LBP3, Guilty Gear Xrd (might as well be), Yakuza Ishin, Hohokum, Aliennation, flOw, Flower, InFamous First Light

....

Dead Rising 3, Killer Instinct, TitanFall, Forza Horizon 2, Sunset Overdrive, Halo MCC, Crimson Dragon, D4, Dance Central, Fighter Within, Forza 5, Project Spark

Talking hard and mostly-exclusive (you won't find them on the other brand's platforms), that's...16 to 12 in PS4's favor. And yet PS4 has no gamez, hmm..

Oh that's right, they don't count if they aren't AAA, right Eurogamer? And sports games don't count, yep? So that's 8 vs 8, a bit more even eh. But wait, we obviously don't have enough filters in this brew, so let's just personally scatch off any games that aren't filled with tits and blood, and anything even slightly weeaboo. So how's that looking now, Eurogamer? Mmmhmm...I see,...that's 4 to 5.

Since the logic that appears prominent with Eurogamer can only see things in an absolute, binary fashion, 5 is greater than 4, therefore the XBO has teh gamez and PS4 haz nun.

Eurogamer: A perfect example of what's wrong with this industry these days.

Is this drivel your opinion or are you acting as a medium for Hindle's consciousness?

I think you're in the wrong thread mate.

 

[Omnistalgic]

Meh...Sony gonna take November npd and not even do a press release about it just make an aside during the December meeting like a boss...

Everyone seems to be betting on X1 winning like the titanfall month so I'm just gonna go against the grain here. Close by PS4 will take both months, but 360 will do better than PS3.

 

[Vestal]

Lemme see 'bout this...

Resogun, Killzone, Knack, Infamous, MLB The Show, Last of Us Remastered, Driveclub, LBP3, Guilty Gear Xrd (might as well be), Yakuza Ishin, Hohokum, Aliennation, flOw, Flower, InFamous First Light

....

Dead Rising 3, Killer Instinct, TitanFall, Forza Horizon 2, Sunset Overdrive, Halo MCC, Crimson Dragon, D4, Dance Central, Fighter Within, Forza 5, Project Spark

Talking hard and mostly-exclusive (you won't find them on the other brand's platforms), that's...16 to 12 in PS4's favor. And yet PS4 has no gamez, hmm..

Oh that's right, they don't count if they aren't AAA, right Eurogamer? And sports games don't count, yep? So that's 8 vs 8, a bit more even eh. But wait, we obviously don't have enough filters in this brew, so let's just personally scatch off any games that aren't filled with tits and blood, and anything even slightly weeaboo. So how's that looking now, Eurogamer? Mmmhmm...I see,...that's 4 to 5.

Since the logic that appears prominent with Eurogamer can only see things in an absolute, binary fashion, 5 is greater than 4, therefore the XBO has teh gamez and PS4 haz nun.

Eurogamer: A perfect example of what's wrong with this industry these days.

Is this drivel your opinion or are you acting as a medium for Hindle's consciousness?

Just off the top of my head without researching I can see 3 games missing from the Xbox one list. Ryse, max and zoo, we could count halo Spartan assault as well I guess.

 

[Elandyll]

Yeah but that includes a console launch. So they are selling 2 devices instead of 1 for the 3rd and 4th quarter. I would looks at 2009 to 2012s quarterly sales instead of last year.

Correct.

According to what I've seen, Greenberg is dead wrong unless he specifically cherry picks years with significant events such as consoles launch, Wii s'plosion or possibly Kinect s'plosion.

This fall does not have such an event, so it's very unlikely to happen imo.

 

[3rdamention]

Correct.

According to what I've seen, Greenberg is dead wrong unless he specifically cherry picks years with significant events such as consoles launch, Wii s'plosion or possibly Kinect s'plosion.

This fall does not have such an event, so it's very unlikely to happen imo.

I just don't see the Xbox One selling 4 to 5 million consoles this month and next. That is what would have to happen for Greenberg to be correct.....That is just crazy, I change my avatar to Greenburgs face if he is correct.....


And shipped numbers don't count Aaron, since that seems to be the numbers you like to share....

 

[Lrrr]

As I shrewdly predicted before the start of this generation, the Xbox One has taken a leadership position in the North American console market right before the most critical holiday shopping season of recent memory. You could say they took the bull by the horn and are riding her like secretariat all the way to the finish line.

More gaming dollars are spent in the November and December months than in the rest of the year combined, so positioning the Xbox One console and game bundles at a family-friendly $349.99 price point before Sony has any chance to scramble together a legitimate response is, simply put, a stroke of marketing genius.

If the early reports are any indication, the Xbox One now not only has the value share with it's lower price point, it is winning back the hearts and minds of gamers with envelope-pushing, blockbuster AAA next-generation software like Assassin's Creed Black Flag, Assassin's Creed Unity, Sunset Overdrive, and Halo: Master Chief Collection.

In fact, earlier in the week, one top industry media outlet wrote about how Sony's momentum with the Playstation 4 could be coming to a screeching halt due to the lack of compelling exclusive software on that platform. Add to that the recent network issues of Sony's network and launch difficulties of key games like Driveclub and Assassin's Creed Unity, and you have a recipe for potential disaster.

With nearly 10 million Xbox One's sold in compared to 13.5 million Playstation 4's shipped at last count, the tides seem to be turning faster than anyone could have predicted. Last generation, the tag phrase was the first to 10 million wins, so it's only fitting that in this more advanced generation, the pundits may look back and say, "the first to 20 million" is the One who was victorious. Hope this clarifies things for you.

I believe this is a joke post, and possibly a parody account, designed to roleplay the type of absurd fanboy/girl hyperbole you see all the time in forums. For heaven's sake, in one paragraph he uses AC:Unity as a positive point for MS and in the very next, uses it as a negative against Sony. LOL!

It's well done though. Gave this Omicronian a good laugh.

 

[Conduit]

I don't know.... When these guys, the most misleading PR in Microsoft, said that Xbone is leading in US and sales are skyrocketed i really smell something will go wrong in NPD November results.

Yusuf Mehdi - Xbone sales skyrocketed

 

[Final Verdict]

So lets entertain this tweet, do we have an estimate of how many xbone have been sold from January to October in North America? A 60/40 split should give us the minimum number for Xbox this nov/dec.

Xbox usually sells about 50% of their consoles in Nov./Dec. Sometimes a little more, sometimes a little less.

Now this isn't exact, but X1 has sold about 1840k units in the US this year so far.

So if they end up getting 50% this holiday, then that would make for around 920k consoles sold in both Nov & Dec.

 

[Lrrr]

Tripled in comparison to what exactly - the rest of the world, the previous month, the last quarter?

 

[TimFL]

As I shrewdly predicted before the start of this generation, the Xbox One has taken a leadership position in the North American console market right before the most critical holiday shopping season of recent memory. You could say they took the bull by the horn and are riding her like secretariat all the way to the finish line.

More gaming dollars are spent in the November and December months than in the rest of the year combined, so positioning the Xbox One console and game bundles at a family-friendly $349.99 price point before Sony has any chance to scramble together a legitimate response is, simply put, a stroke of marketing genius.

If the early reports are any indication, the Xbox One now not only has the value share with it's lower price point, it is winning back the hearts and minds of gamers with envelope-pushing, blockbuster AAA next-generation software like Assassin's Creed Black Flag, Assassin's Creed Unity, Sunset Overdrive, and Halo: Master Chief Collection.

In fact, earlier in the week, one top industry media outlet wrote about how Sony's momentum with the Playstation 4 could be coming to a screeching halt due to the lack of compelling exclusive software on that platform. Add to that the recent network issues of Sony's network and launch difficulties of key games like Driveclub and Assassin's Creed Unity, and you have a recipe for potential disaster.

With nearly 10 million Xbox One's sold in compared to 13.5 million Playstation 4's shipped at last count, the tides seem to be turning faster than anyone could have predicted. Last generation, the tag phrase was the first to 10 million wins, so it's only fitting that in this more advanced generation, the pundits may look back and say, "the first to 20 million" is the One who was victorious. Hope this clarifies things for you.

Albert is that you?

 

[rokkerkory]

Xbox usually sells about 50% of their consoles in Nov./Dec. Sometimes a little more, sometimes a little less.

Now this isn't exact, but X1 has sold about 1840k units in the US this year so far.

So if they end up getting 50% this holiday, then that would make for around 920k consoles sold in both Nov & Dec.

MS needs to sell 1.2m+ in nov and dec to make any dent in PS4s lead.

 

[Fdkn]

Xbox usually sells about 50% of their consoles in Nov./Dec. Sometimes a little more, sometimes a little less.

Now this isn't exact, but X1 has sold about 1840k units in the US this year so far.

So if they end up getting 50% this holiday, then that would make for around 920k consoles sold in both Nov & Dec.

Getting 50% would mean another 1840k in those 2 months

Aaron says they will sell more than that.

 

[Dr Bass]

Tripled in comparison to what exactly - the rest of the world, the previous month, the last quarter?

I believe it ended up being the week before the sale, but I could be wrong.

 

[Final Verdict]

MS needs to sell 1.2m+ in nov and dec to make any dent in PS4s lead.

Yeah, they will probably end up gaining about 200-300k back from PS4, that's it.

Getting 50% would mean another 1840k in those 2 months

Aaron says they will sell more than that.

I wouldn't listen to anything Aaron says, he is being blinded by his own hubris.

 

[ChainsawFilms]

Tripled in comparison to what exactly - the rest of the world, the previous month, the last quarter?

Tripled in comparison to the previous week where no-one purchased the console because they were waiting for the price cut. They gave up in October, announced the price cut to kick off when the November NPD starts. PR points and high fives.

 

[Majmun]

Sony's issue is providing the other territories outside of NA with stock during the holiday period as well.

MS only has to focus on NA and the UK and stuff those channels. Sony covers a bigger market. Hopefully they've manufactured enough Ps4 consoles. They can't afford any shortages, especially not in NA and the Uk.

 

[Goodacre0081]

not sure if this was posted yet. interesting take.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/markrog...-tripled-but-is-that-less-than-meets-the-eye/

 

[Fdkn]

I wouldn't listen to anything Aaron says, he is being blinded by his own hubris.

While I agree, this whole thread is about Microsoft PR doing its thing and Aaron is a big part of that

 

[LowEndTorque]

not sure if this was posted yet. interesting take.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/markrog...-tripled-but-is-that-less-than-meets-the-eye/

Ha. Nice piece.

 

[lonedigitalwolf]

not sure if this was posted yet. interesting take.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/markrog...-tripled-but-is-that-less-than-meets-the-eye/

Hmmm, that is indeed interesting...

 

[rokkerkory]

not sure if this was posted yet. interesting take.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/markrog...-tripled-but-is-that-less-than-meets-the-eye/

Yep... gotta prove it MS.