Dragonborn
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Not really, in fact I'd say friends are faster on PS4, as well as parties. Trophues are also faster unless they have to sync. Snapping is so slow to load
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Microsoft: Xbox One leading sales in US since price cut, nearly 10 million sold-in
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Not really, in fact I'd say friends are faster on PS4, as well as parties. Trophues are also faster unless they have to sync. Snapping is so slow to load
A big gap
Final Verdict
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What?
Sony has not announced anything other than their two Black Friday only bundles which will be a choice between TLOU+GTA, or LBP+LEGO games.
Majmun
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Either way, it will be interesting
Too bad we won't be getting actual numbers. NPD sucks nowadays
Final Verdict
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If PS4 wins (by any amount), or if X1 wins by a lot (300k+), then it would cause a big meltdown here in GAF.
If X1 wins by 100k or less, then no one will be surprised.
Dragonborn
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PS4 winning. It seems most are already expecting X1 to "win", so that wouldn't be a big upset
If MS will do very well , they will "give us" number i think.
I mean Lbp3 is yet to be released in the month, not that it will be bundled with GTA V. But yes a GTA V bundle is confirmed to hit stores later this month. The point is still quite clear, MS have gone all in at the start of this month and Sony have been holding things back for the second half.
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People are already melting down just at the possibility of xbone outselling ps4 claiming 'unfair business practices' i.e. price cut.
Agree. A huge gap between the two (e.g.: 200K+) would be far more surprising. I do think at this current time that the Xbox will get November but I don't think it will be by that much.
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Warz. One of the side effects of sales info/discussion here,
If MS wins, people won't be surprised. The price cut + Call of Duty + SO + Bundles means there's a good reason why they won.
I'm not forgetting how old the studios are, I just don't think it's of any real importance. To me, it's not that different from picking a favourite football team as a child and supporting them as their roster and performance changes over the years. Making Crash Bandicoot games a decade ago doesn't mean much to me in the face of three back to back Uncharteds. At the end of the day, it's the people that make the games, and I don't think it matters much what label they fall under, or even if they mix and merge. Doesn't matter if you're not Clover anymore when you're making Bayonetta, and it doesn't really matter if you're not Bizarre Creations, or Sega Racing Studio, or Codemasters when you're making Forza Horizon. Conversely it doesn't matter if you're still Bungie when you make Destiny, or if you're still Team Ninja when you make Ninja Gaiden 3. Or of course, if you become Big Red Button. At that point, you're basically dead to me, lol.
As for the Platinum games stuff. Yea, their focus is on action games. However, when I talk about similarities between something like Uncharted and TLOU, or Quantum Break and Alan Wake... I mean like, I could imagine a rather impressive mod turning one into the other. I can literally imagine playing as Nathan in TLOU, aiming as him and melee'ing as him. Same thing with Alan in Quantum Break. Each has variations in their mechanics, but the base templates are essentially the same. Now, if I started trying to picture what needs to be changed to turn Bayonetta into Vanquish into Anarchy Reigns, then there's a whole lot more different between the games. Despite the shared universe, I felt a larger difference playing Mad World and Anarchy Reigns, than I did Uncharted and TLOU.
And by anomaly, I meant releasing game after game, that people consider amongst the greatest, not simply making different games (which I wouldn't class ND of doing a whole lot of tbh). Like, if Rare were a Sony studio, Naughty Dog would still be an anomaly.
I had actually forgotten about Tearaway. I don't have a Vita, so sometimes I lose track of what goes on over there. That being said though, it does provide an answer to the question of what PS4 game I'm likely to pick up next.
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He's asking about what will cause bigger meltdowns not what people expect to happen.
jhmtehgamr20xx
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Surprising exactly no one? How quickly people forget it outselling PS4 last December and February in NPD.
The world didn't blow up then, it won't blow up next month either if XBO pulls a November win.
I will agree with some of this; Polyphony is maybe the most guilty of it tho. They have two well-and-good IP in Omega Boost and Motor Toon they've yet to touch since GT hit it big, and the convenient excuse w/ some people is they shouldn't b/c those games don't make the big money. You'll have to excuse me if I care a bit more about diversity and creativity in my games instead of just going with the sure bets every single time, and it's quite obvious PD has the talent to branch out more than they have. And at some point, you have to stop using "but there's no market for them" as an excuse; there's always a market for something. Always.
Unfortunately I'm still not quite so certain we're going to see the vast amount of first-party diversity on PS4 or XBO that we saw in their predecessors, or on the PS1. There's lots of reasons for that though. MS might have a slight bigger incentive b/c the Xbox brand has more to lose w/ core gamers, but if the usual big guns do as well as usual or better, I see a lot of w/e vanity projects they would've done, going out the window. Sony's got Japan Studio for their more expressive output (like Tomorrow Children; love what I'm seeing on that so far), and maybe GG, but that's about all I can see of any 1st parties taking massive creative gambles this gen, regularly, on their end.
I kinda feel w/e ND's new IP is going to be, it'll probably be thematically similar to UnCharted and TLOU, likely in the same general genre too. I can already picture Channing Tatum as the reference lead.
It was just December. PS4 won February but it wasn't by that much at all -- smaller gap than many expected.
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Have you not been reading this thread? Have you not seen the faux outrage at Microsoft's unfair business practice ie. Price cut? Did you not read the posts about Microsoft duping poor consumers with their inferior product/fire sale.
March of the Crabs
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If it's sold to stores it means nothing really. My work got 20 Xbones in last week and so far we have sold 2. Curious to see how this month plays out though.
I don't think anyone is saying the fire sale is an unfair practice, just a desperate one.
Final Verdict
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You sure the GTA bundle is for the US? I haven't seen it listed anywhere online, and it is not in any of the BF adds....
Final Verdict
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Interesting...
how well is it selling compared to last month?
and how is it doing in comparison to ps4 & Wii U?
Also, where do you work?
Both sides of the spectrum? Those defending MS, and those criticizing MS?
Final Verdict
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Yeah, that's the one i was talking about, it is Black Friday only.
Sony is betting hard on BF, but that does not count as the last two weeks of Nov.
jhmtehgamr20xx
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Yeah went and did a quick check. My bad; time is a great tool of distortion.
Would be surprised if it wasn't.
Chobel
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So your point is that some people will have meltdown? No shit Sherlock! Of course there will be some people not accepting the idea of Sony losing November NPD, but these people present the minority.
Dragonborn
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Meltdowns normally happen at the unexpected. The X1 winning one month in NA would be neotger u expected nor even significant given what they've had to do. It wouldn't be cause for meltdown.
The PS4 winning would be a big upset, as it's not really expected.
That's because many expected the gap to swing the other way.
Cthulhu_Steev
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It's not my fault, mate.
It says it is while supplies last. Not that it will only be sold on Black Friday and any unsold stock gets shipped back, which I assume you must mean by "Black Friday only."
kinoki
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Did XBO really sell that well? I mean, the biggest titles that Microsoft has launched (CoD and Halo) and those are front loaded. Is two weeks of selling good really enough to put a dent into the PS4 momentum? Doubtful. Black Friday is just to put in some distance.
wapplew
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I think unless xbox close that 1m gap within nov and dec, there won't be much meltdown because PSX happen very close to nov NPD,
PS fans might swimming in megatons announcements already.
Final Verdict
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Well the guy I replied to was saying that PS4 had GTA & LBP bundles in the last two weeks of Nov.
I was just telling him that the deal didn't start until BF.
But yeah...I expect the deals for PS4 & X1 to both sell out (though X1 might have more stock so who knows?), but even if they don't, I wouldn't count on being able to get the same $400/$330 price on them after the BF weekend.
But PS4 chances of winning November are pretty much zero, If MS sold better since the price cut and Sony's only reaction are some black Friday bundles that only last for 2 days, how they will sell more?
It seems to me Sony don't or can't afford to compete with MS when it come to prices, they just want to get through the holidays with minimum damage and hopefully keep dominates 2015.
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I was answering a question about meltdowns. As to your comment about them being the minority I never said otherwise. What is your point guy?
Dragonborn
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The $399 PS4 bundle is more than enough competition.
It's not necessarily that Sony can't, but rather that they just don't have to sink as low as MS to sell their system
Final Verdict
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Obviously not, but do keep in mind that one week in Nov. is bigger than the whole month of July....
If they can win the next two months, it could hurt the PS4 a little, but is very unlikely to catapult the X1 over the PS4 for any extended amount of time.
What you have here is a good example of the tortoise and the hair. The X1 will make up some ground this holiday, but if they want to win the US, they are going to need to compete all year around.
Against 350$ including bundles? Doesn't seems like it according to MS latest statement.
Mikey Jr.
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A Ms win is completely expected at this point. Doesn't matter how popular the ps4 is, you can't beat the absolutely Batshit insane Xbone deals.
Plus they have better holiday exclusives.
So ps4 winning would melt Neogaf. Because if Ms can't beat ps4 in Nov, it will never do it again.
I expect them to sell out as well but i'd be shocked if you still didn't see these bundles after BF
Are you really serious? Damn microsoft PR work better than expected.
And according to that statement how much more did they sell by?
Don't put too much stock into PR spin.
I have no doubts the XB1 is selling VERY VERY well and could possible win Nov. but how many of these sales have been frontloaded?
How well is the PS4 still selling in comparison to the XB1?
BF counts for a HUGE chunk of shopping in the month. So we'll see where things stand after that. If I'm Sony I'm stuffing the channels with this PS4+GTAV+TLOU bundle
Can you explain where I am wrong? I'm a PS4 owner BTW.
Wickerbasket
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Well, they said the sold more the week of the price cut. This is totally expected, because they announced the price cut a week beforehand, so sales would have dropped significantly for the week before.
People waited to buy after the price drop, so they might have sold more than PS4 that week, so their statement could be true while still selling less overall over the month.
I don't see what could be the problem if ps4 lose november npd. In the case, I don't see the ps4 sell so badly.
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