GrayFoxPL
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Shiiiiet!
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NeoGAF, welcome to .webm - the FUTURE (of burning out your CPU)
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Shiiiiet!
I'm still just fucking amazed at the speed these things load up at!
Holy shit, you almost blew up my computer.
Rolodzeo
Member
I... I think I can see... the internets.
Thanks for reminding me I need to see the first episode.
Yeah, it's probably because the website hosting all those webm files (pomf.se) is getting hammered.
LoveCake
Member
Post of the year !
NYCmetsfan
Banned
half these things don't load on my computer. Gifs are still vastly more useful until then
Some PSO2 for you.
http://a.pomf.se/pbzbri.webm
http://a.pomf.se/pbzbri.webm
None, just use a 60FPS source. By default ffmpeg (if you use that) uses the same frame-rate as the source.
Holy god Im in tears.
anchorman128
Member
Just made quite the beautiful wif of Drive Club... man I can't wait for this game. I hope they have spent the time improving everything possible.
http://a.pomf.se/fjhexo.webm
http://a.pomf.se/fjhexo.webm
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Holy goodness, my phone just crapped out clicking on a couple different ones. It got stuck in a loop vibrating. I think it went into shock. Had to restart it, not even joking!
Whiff or get out you heathen!
Alright, heres a little bonus for those with 120hz monitors.
Dark Souls vs Capra demon at 120fps.
http://a.pomf.se/evtptc.webm
You might be better off opening it in its own tab because, being 120fps, it may be demanding.
Dark Souls vs Capra demon at 120fps.
http://a.pomf.se/evtptc.webm
You might be better off opening it in its own tab because, being 120fps, it may be demanding.
WonkyPanda
Member
Holy shit. I just died in the library.
LoveCake
Member
i was wondering the same thing myself, especially if 4chan & Reddit are using it for hosting as well.
i'm sure there are other hosts we just need to find them, if Reddit are using it then i would think imgur will allow them to be hosted soon.
If anything, any 'official' GAF extension needs to impose limitations the same way 4chan ones do if it is to 'replace' GIF. Sniffing the header for bitrate and dimension to compare to accepted ceilings, for one, and only autoplaying those that comply to the standards would go a long way from letting things get out of hand.
(Although to be fair there aren't any actual GIF filesize/dimension limits on NeoGAF either)
Data Elemental
Member
This is an interesting development. I wonder how it will play out. In general, web video is kind of a mess. Some browsers support WebM, most support H.264/MP4 in some way or other. Sadly, there is no single format proscribed in the standard that is supported everywhere, making it hard to use if you want to optimize compatibility, because you need to have encodes in multiple formats available to send to the user, depending on what they can play.
From a technical point of view, H.264 has widely available hardware decoders, making it much easier to play higher resolution files on otherwise weaker hardware with lower power cost. From a size/quality point of view, H.264 encoded with x264 easily beats WebM. Patents can be a problem, but Cisco did an interesting legal hack that could make things easier on the decoder side.
The newer formats, VP9 and HEVC, are not too widely supported and have ridiculously slow encoders. HEVC decoders are somewhat reasonable, performance-wise. I don't know much about VP9 decoders. Compared to a high quality H.264 encode made with x264, current VP9 and HEVC can still (often?) fail to deliver a perceptually superior result, due to the refined psy models in x264. They are improving, however.
Compared to GIF, even WebM should be way more efficient, of course.
From a technical point of view, H.264 has widely available hardware decoders, making it much easier to play higher resolution files on otherwise weaker hardware with lower power cost. From a size/quality point of view, H.264 encoded with x264 easily beats WebM. Patents can be a problem, but Cisco did an interesting legal hack that could make things easier on the decoder side.
The newer formats, VP9 and HEVC, are not too widely supported and have ridiculously slow encoders. HEVC decoders are somewhat reasonable, performance-wise. I don't know much about VP9 decoders. Compared to a high quality H.264 encode made with x264, current VP9 and HEVC can still (often?) fail to deliver a perceptually superior result, due to the refined psy models in x264. They are improving, however.
Compared to GIF, even WebM should be way more efficient, of course.
That would be very tricky to do in a reliable way, unless you also build a video hosting service that reencodes videos to fall within specifications to go along with it. There's a reason YouTube no longer passes through un-reencoded videos, even if they seem to fall within the specs where they used to do it.
How the hell did you smash the dude like that :lol
It's like the Capra Demon has no chance at all
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Anyone notice that Sunhi posts (for example) is black on this page? Almost all the quotes are black. Not sure why.
Minister of the Dog
Member
How I did mine:
1. I had a video recorded with fraps from some time ago.
2. I had converted that video to mp4 using handbrake.
3. Selected a few seconds from the mp4 video, created a new mp4 video (~23 MiB). Select "seconds" instead of "chapters" on handbrake.
4. Uploaded it to dropbox.
5. Used http://video.online-convert.com/convert-to-webm to convert the video.
6. Uploaded it to pomf.se
7. Posted it in url tags.
Data Elemental
Member
Could also be a bandwidth problem, either on your side or that of the server. Or anywhere in-between.
This is the greatest thing of April, so far.
Use a good video recording software (Fraps, DxTory, etc) to record the raw footage, and then convert it to a WebM using ffmpeg.
OBS works as a free solution, and I've been playing around with it. I really can't get high quality footage out of it though, it washes the colours out and highly compresses the video to streaming quality regardless of what settings I use.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
Welp.
I like this.
I like this.
http://a.pomf.se/jtyhok.webm
Some Thief footage from my Playstation 4. It sadly passed by Facebook though so the quality is not top notch.
Some Thief footage from my Playstation 4. It sadly passed by Facebook though so the quality is not top notch.
Looks perfectly fine on my end.
Seems to be a problem when you have multiple of the same webm open. I had like four tabs open and it made everything even worse.
I'm not saying the *host* needs to enforce the ceilings. I'm saying that the chrome extension or whatever that parses urls and embeds them automatically should check them out, and only load/autoplay them if they're compliant, and otherwise display only the preview frame (with optional play-on-click for example).
Poltergust
Member
I've noticed another issue with these things. Whenever I load up a page using the "first unread post" feature, it loads the page up with the first unread post, then loads the .webm's, scrolling the page upwards. Is there a way to fix that?
EDIT: Seems to only happen to pages that have a lot of these things.
EDIT: Seems to only happen to pages that have a lot of these things.
Data Elemental
Member
Yes, I understood that. It would be very tricky. Bitrate values in video file headers, if given at all, tend to be notoriously wrong in my experience. The only way to make sure, would be to process the whole video and if you do that on the client, it's too late already.
Edit: Just tried the FF extension. Hmpf. The only thing I'm getting is an "X" with "Video format or MIME type is not supported". Odd, I would have assumed that the official FF28 build for amd64/linux has support for WebM.
Edit 2: Got it working. Disabling WebM support in about:config disables WebM support. Who would have thought...