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Sony: "Our 1st party lineup a little sparse this year"; emphasis on 3rd party support
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Nightengale
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In terms of having a constant presence of it's big IPs, sure. But otherwise, I think it's not that great.
Canis lupus
Member
The PS4 has the weakest exclusive output of all the PS consoles so far. PS3 was mocked for having no games early on but it had more output than PS4.
You can still be wrong though when probably making it in a comparison post vs. other platform holders.
Because Sony had years where it had 3 times the amount of games released as Microsoft Studios and that was back when you needed a publisher so quite a few indie titles were MS Studio titles which they wouldn't be today.
So Sony can be sparse compared to itself, while still being not sparse when compared to something else. ;-)
It's been sparse since the console launched. Literally, after the system launched, it's been a trickle-down effort of first party games, and they've merely hijacked their support to third party games to make this up.
Can't wait to see what third party multiplatform will be treated like a first party exclusive again...
Can't wait to see what third party multiplatform will be treated like a first party exclusive again...
Acquiescence
Member
Can't they feasibly announce it at E3 and release it early next year? Releasing it this fall would guarantee its death at the hands of the usual annualised mega-franchises that are always out in October and November.
SenjutsuSage
Banned
Personally, I don't care about anything else so long as I get Persona 5. It's my biggest reason to own a PS4 right now.
LegendofDragoonLives
Member
A remedy might be to focus on buying or building 1st party studios rather than shit marketing deals that cost them so much money, but hey I guess having timed DLC is all the rage these days. :\
I sincerely hope they do expand, all I've heard is that small indie studio announced at E3? last year that came that day and Morpheus UK-based studio.
Dog Problems
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Everybody's Gone to the Rapture is coming, and possibly Rime. So I'm good.
Toadthemushroom
Member
From the linked piece:
"House also cast a dim view of the company's handheld business. While he noted that the Vita platform remains "strong and vibrant" in Asia and Japan, his outlook for the current fiscal year included declines in the US and Europe. Additionally, he referred to the PlayStation Vita and its microconsole counterpart the PlayStation TV as "legacy platforms" when discussing a write-off of hardware components for the two."
Oof, damning, but probably not too surprising. While Vita is still a priority for SCEJ, ever since a lot of SCEA/SCEE investments (Killzone, Tearaway) performed below expectations, and since the PS4 performed way above expectations, it makes sense for SCEA/SCEE to focus on PS4 going forward.
"House also cast a dim view of the company's handheld business. While he noted that the Vita platform remains "strong and vibrant" in Asia and Japan, his outlook for the current fiscal year included declines in the US and Europe. Additionally, he referred to the PlayStation Vita and its microconsole counterpart the PlayStation TV as "legacy platforms" when discussing a write-off of hardware components for the two."
Oof, damning, but probably not too surprising. While Vita is still a priority for SCEJ, ever since a lot of SCEA/SCEE investments (Killzone, Tearaway) performed below expectations, and since the PS4 performed way above expectations, it makes sense for SCEA/SCEE to focus on PS4 going forward.
Mass_Pincup
Banned
Except the Vita.
Magic Mushroom
Member
None of them as good as Bloodborne though.
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
Åesop;165370337 said:
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I think one should get used to the AAA console industry dying. It's inevitable with the huge consolidation that has been seen.
To somehow think there will a second spring and lots of games are being made again like they were 8 years ago is unrealistic.
Star Wars Battlefront
What does that opinion have to do with anything that I said? I never made any comparisons to the Xbox or Wii U's lineup for this year.
If it's sparse then it's sparse. Doesn't matter what the other consoles have/don't have. It's obvious that Sony is banking in on third party support and deals to help with that fact (which is smart).
Nightengale
Member
Newsflash! E3 only announces games releasing in the same year! /sarcasm
John Bender
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KnockOneOff
Banned
Sony Sony Sony .... You do realise all these people are buying your console and a lot of them jumped from the Xbox 360 - how will they feel at the of this cycle for the PS5 considering the PS4 has very little 1st party titles in the 2 years since launch!!
God dammit!
God dammit!
I know, but this comment makes me think it may shift to 2016.
2006 - 2010: 360
2010 - 2014: PS3
Make no mistake, PS tentpole franchises are coming, they're just taking a long time to do so, and I can see how that frustrates people. If we don't have mention of GoW4 or GT7 by the end of the year, I can see a lot of people being upset.
Great holiday presence, but unfortunately everything before that is barren. Outside of Ori, Screamride, and State of Decay, there hasn't been much in the first 9 months of the year.
mocolostrocolos
Member
This is disappointing.
We knew they didn't had a blockbuster for this Holidays, but this confirmation of going third party is just... bleh.
I know business-wise is a great move, but as a consumer I expected more.
We knew they didn't had a blockbuster for this Holidays, but this confirmation of going third party is just... bleh.
I know business-wise is a great move, but as a consumer I expected more.
Nightengale
Member
I'm not sure how people are arriving at the "No TLG at E3" conclusion because House admits that they don't have much scheduled to release this year.
:/
Americanmushroom
Banned
People thought it would be re announced AND release in 2015 lol
SenjutsuSage
Banned
You, sir, speak the truth.
It looks to be that way, sadly. It seems Nintendo is able to put more first party games on both 3DS and Wii U, and Sony can't muster just PS4. But not everything from Nintendo directly is treated as AAA in budget and scope; Sony tries to do this for their games, and I don't really think it does them favors.
God, I can fucking see it, too. Ugh...
Acquiescence
Member
Why?
backflip10019
Member
The lack of intriguing first party content is the reason I haven't bought a PS4. I have multiplatform games and more interesting first party games (in my opinion) on my Xbox One (Souls games aren't my thing, so Bloodborne is out of the question). Stuff like The Last of Us and Infamous are cool, but not enough to get me to pull the trigger. Wish Sony would up its first party development a bit.
KnockOneOff
Banned
Problem is I can only think of God of war and uncharted which are actually decent first party games now
What am I missing that Sony still has to come ?
Honest question not trying to troll just my mind has drawn a blank
Or they can look forward to the massive titles releasing this fall that aren't exclusive.
While also possibly holding out hope that what House means when he says they worked hard with third party publishers is that we're in for a few third party exclusives.
Canis lupus
Member
Destiny will be on stage again, for the 3rd year in a row.
More like
2006-2008: 360 (Mass Effect, Bioshock, Gears, JRPG and Japanese support etc)
2009-2014: PS3 2009 was the year PS3 started reigning with KZ2 and Uncharted 2.
MS has better big title lineup for fall however they still have the same problem that is my number 1 issue this gen with every console: not enough interesting new IPs (and by that I mean totally new type of games, for example Bloodborne is a new IP but it's still basically Souls-game). This kills my E3 hype as well because I already know like 90% of games that will get announced will be sequels or remasters.
I simply said that MS relied heavily on third party deals/multiplats during the final years of the previous gen and that Sony is doing it now (in the post I'm referring to).
Sony themselves stated a greater emphasis on third party support here so I (again) don't see how people can disagree; They are talking about their own lineup.
Nintendojitsu
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I am the last person that any PS4 fan should listen to but humor me on this. Do you honestly think SCEA is going to release an Uncharted game at the beginning of next year?
As proven by Microsoft last Holiday season, only the Q3/4 really matters, as far as sales are concerned. Do you think SCEA would pass up on an opportunity like that just to appease a few 3rd party publishers and their annual games which would sell on the platform regardless?
My advice for this year's E3 would be to temper your expectations by at least a two thirds for the PS4. Unless you like annual 3rd party games...
As proven by Microsoft last Holiday season, only the Q3/4 really matters, as far as sales are concerned. Do you think SCEA would pass up on an opportunity like that just to appease a few 3rd party publishers and their annual games which would sell on the platform regardless?
My advice for this year's E3 would be to temper your expectations by at least a two thirds for the PS4. Unless you like annual 3rd party games...
GitarooMan
Member
Of course it does. Given the lack of Holiday 2015 announcements to this point, people thought that E3 might present some more titles. This info seems to indicate that is more unlikely. Sure there might be 2016 and later first-party titles on display, but 2015 looks very barren from a first-party front.
Theonik
Member
Yes, but I also think that once Sony managed to make the PS4 synonymous with people buying next gen systems it matters a lot less. The PS3's PR woes didn't start from its games alone. Basically the ball is on MS's court to get people not to buy a PS4 than the other way around.
I will cut you.
maquiladora
Member
Well, at least he is honest about it.
ViewtifulJC
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Rumor has it its gon be Star Wars Battlefront
mysteriousmage09
Member
Was beyond obvious after this
This gen really sucks so far.
This gen really sucks so far.