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[mcrommert]

People actually want this?

Don't mind it for certain games....most games on pc that are in anyway competitive no because of the rampant cheating

 

[Movalpolos]

Will Xbox still require an additional gold live sub in order to play a subscription based MMO like FFXIV?

 

[CaptNink]

Wow! To think that I might actually be able to play a game with ALL of my friends is goddamn glorious.

 

[TalonJH]

The gauntlet has been thrown. They basically are putting the ball squarely in Sony's court: if games aren't cross-platform online, it's because Sony didn't allow it.

Come on Sony, it's your turn!

Just imagine being able to play battlefield crossplay with Xbox, and even PC if we can get them to require controllers

Jeremy Dunham(Rocket Leauge) in February was on Greg & Colin and he said it was a political reason and a MS rule that they had asked about getting by.

https://www.twitch.tv/kindafunnygames/v/50010064
skip to 34:00

This is good news for everyone. It's how it should be but understandable why it hasn't been. If it actually becomes a common thing, this generation will move into my top 3 instantly.

 

[Gtagentleman]

Maybe we are not in the worst timeline after all.

 

[Goodacre0081]

i guessing gamechat / party chat is another beast in itself?

 

[kingocfs]

Probably the coolest thing to come out of this gen.

 

[GnawtyDog]

From a console manufacturer standpoint, this strengthens third parties leverage on the market....aka more pandering required.

If it wasn't any clearer that without third parties a console is bust...this will only strengthen the big players with the big franchises.

 

[Boke1879]

I think cross-platform multiplayer for Minecraft could be huge.

Imagine PC, Wii U, PS4, and Xbox One players being able to join up?

I'd be surprised if MS isn't trying to get the ball rolling on this. Makes no sense not to.

 

[benicillin]

My realistic prediction is that a few games, indie titles and the like, will probably use this. Maybe some MMOs or F2P games where more player base is super important. But if you're expecting to play Destiny 2 (or even 3) cross platform with your friends I bet you're going to be disappointed.

 

[Withnail]

I guess at some point XBO and Windows Store PC will get cross platform parties and invites etc but there's no way that will happen with PSN. This will be one way of making the Win 10 platforms more attractive to consumers. Basically MS will reclaim the PC community as part of the XBL ecosystem rather than something more connected with PSN (as it kind of has been recently with FFXIV, SFV, etc).

 

[HUELEN10]

Guys... I read the OP. Why is PSN in the title? It is never mentioned, just other consoles.

Sony charges for thier services, Nontendo and PC gaming does not. Isn't going for free services first the likely thing, as that doesn't push money monthly into the pockets of competitors?

 

[N.Domixis]

i guessing gamechat / party chat is another beast in itself?

fanboys would be speaking shit non stop.

 

[Live Free or Die]

Um of course, why on Earth wouldn't you want it?

I was just wondering. There could be a number of problems. I think we should just wait and see how it works before giving unlimited praise.

what about lag, people on different systems have certain advantages control wise. etc..

 

[AndyD]

Megaton. Now you don't need to buy the same console to play with your friends.

As long as devs and publishers buy into the idea. But I suspect they will, and quickly.

 

[Cutebrute]

I'd assume that this move will make publishers think twice about signing timed/exclusive dlc deals if that would create issues with a cross-platform environment. Also, this seems like an excellent way to make XBL Gold subs relevant to lapsed console players if this is implemented correctly.

 

[Obliterator]

Some of the big MP FPS publishers must be licking their lips at this, it'd be so easy to market a game that let's both platforms face each other.

Also something important for devs and pubs is a bigger community will stay healthier for longer and can keep mindshare with gamers longer. Why is this important?

DLC. They can sell high margin DLC for much longer and have a steady consistent revenue stream.

 

[Raide]

i guessing gamechat / party chat is another beast in itself?

Could be very complicated due to different protocols for voice etc. Sony would have to match up to what MS's currently offers in order to make voice etc feasible. Probably won't happen, just due to logistics.

 

[GodofWine]

I just see this as another guarded way to say that the xbox platform is turning more into a PC, iterative and modularly upgradeable boxes are the future.

 

[Apathy]

I think we can all "what if" this or any news to death....bottom line is MS was closed to a lot of things, including cross-platform play...now they are open to it and even went a step further with open and optional cross network play...

It's a net win for gamers and a huge step in a positive direction.

Yeah but they don't get off Scott free just because they announce this if the underlying caveat is "must be with azure servers" people need to be sceptical about things.

 

[jediyoshi]

No they havent? They've allowed it on about 2 games.

..what is the relevance of picking out a quantitative qualifier to that statement?

 

[wapplew]

Another lttp, MS.

 

[Zeta Oni]

Guys... I read the OP. Why is PSN in the title? It is never mentioned, just other consoles.

It's assumed.

You should also look for a rocket league thread on the front page to explain why its being assumed.

 

[infinityBCRT]

It would make me so happy if Sony allows this and companies like EA, Ubisoft, Activision take advantage of this. No more having to worry about what platform you buy a game on or double dipping to play with multiple friends.

 

[ebullientprism]

I dont understand the jubilation in this thread. This isnt new.

They did this with GFWL. Like 2 games supported it and the idea and GFWL died after a while.

Whats changed? Why will this time be any different?

 

[Phionoxx]

This is pretty big news. A simple thing you would think, but it sure took a long time to happen. I hope that it gets used and supported more and more as time goes on - could really help multiplayer PC gaming as those communities tend to die off quickly at times.

 

[Afrodium]

Guys... I read the OP. Why is PSN in the title? It is never mentioned, just other consoles.

Sony charges for thier services, Nontendo and PC gaming does not. Isn't going for free services first the likely thing, as that doesn't push money monthly into the pockets of competitors?

The only other consoles are PS4 and Wii U

 

[Toki767]

Guys... I read the OP. Why is PSN in the title? It is never mentioned, just other consoles.

Sony charges for thier services, Nontendo and PC gaming does not. Isn't going for free services first the likely thing, as that doesn't push money monthly into the pockets of competitors?

Games are way more likely to support PC/PSN than PC/Nintendo.

 

[HUELEN10]

It's assumed.

You should also look for a rocket league thread on the front page to explain why its being assumed.

I've MADE the Rocket League threads.

I don't get it.

The only other consoles are PS4 and Wii U

Right now.

 

[Ashler]

I... what?!

 

[Trago]

As long as devs and publishers buy into the idea. But I suspect they will, and quickly.

There's virtually no reason not to. Hell, game launches could get bigger if the players knew they could compete against other platforms.

 

[NOLA_Gaffer]

If this takes off this eliminates customers from choosing a platform based on "what their friends have", because unless it's an exclusive title, they'll be able to play with their friends no matter what.

 

[bltn]

About fucking time.

 

[AyaisMUsikWhore]

Not huge for me. Just finally...

 

[Zeta Oni]

I dont understand the jubilation in this thread. This isnt new.

They did this with GFWL. Like 2 games supported it and the idea and GFWL died after a while.

Whats changed? Why will this time be any different?

There is nothing to understand.

People just aren't as cynical as you, and there's nothing wrong with that. Just like there's nothing wrong with being cynical.

 

[JoeyJungle]

FFXIV for XBONE confirmed?

 

[Floody]

i guessing gamechat / party chat is another beast in itself?

Yeah, gamechat mightn't be too hard, but I really don't see cross platform party chat or even having Xbox friends show up on you PS4 friends list and vice versa. I suppose MS could put Skype on PS4 to bypass the first problem though.

 

[Dee Dah Dave]

They already allow this?

Sony's been doing it for a while now. It's MS that has finally somewhat come around.

No, they haven't. Sony have always been more open regarding cross play between PlayStation and PC, that part is true.

This is about universal cross play across ALL devices, and providing the development tools to make it happen.

Just how much inter-connectivity this will allow remains to be seen.

 

[Piccoro]

Will Xbox still require an additional gold live sub in order to play a subscription based MMO like FFXIV?

In PS4 you can play FFXIV online even if you don't have Plus, so maybe it will be the same if it comes to Xbox.

 

[FinKL]

Doesn't this mean that ALL PS4 and PC games are also cross play too?
The only downside like someone linked earlier (from what a psynoix dev wrote)is that we'd have to go through another service (W10 Live?) where we'll all have seperate accounts that MS would have control of.

 

[JumPeRJumPzZ]

I guess at some point XBO and Windows Store PC will get cross platform parties and invites etc but there's no way that will happen with PSN. This will be one way of making the Win 10 platforms more attractive to consumers. Basically MS will reclaim the PC community as part of the XBL ecosystem rather than something more connected with PSN (as it kind of has been recently with FFXIV, SFV, etc).

You can already Party Chat with XboxOne people on W10.

 

[Amagon]

Never thought I see the day that this is happening.

 

[Dabanton]

The next round of consoles (or whatever form they'll take) are going to be very interesting. Imagine cross platform play from launch. It could mean certain games not dying when the userbase moves on.

I like what I'm seeing from MS here, slowly breaking down the walls they helped build up.

Next thing I hope to see thrown on the fire, console exclusive DLC. That shit has ran it's course. Lets see if MS or Sony can wean themselves off doing it.

 

[WadeitOut]

I've MADE the Rocket League threads.

I don't get it.

Right now.

Well one of the two other consoles has third party support...so yeah.

 

[m_dorian]

Very good, MS! This is the right direction. Now kill the parity clause for indies while we are here.

 

[TheOohChild]

Rocket League is the gift that keeps on giving

 

[Mixolydian]

This is huge. A lot of people keep asking if this is really what gamers wanted, but for many - including myself - this is huge simply for the fact that I no longer have to buy multiple consoles to play with all my gaming buddies.

Bravo MS. Here's hoping that the developers adopt this en masse.

 

[legacyzero]

It's not.

NMS doesnt even have cross play between PS4/PC as it is now. And besides, it isnt afaik.

If this game as Console Exclusive, theyd be singing it from the heavens. And when asked, Sean Murray says he's not allowed to comment.

 

[Kayant]

This bit from the article is interesting:



Just checked the website for the game and saw this:

•The ultimate multiplayer experience: Play cross-platform on Nintendo 3DS™, Wii U, iPhone, iPad, iPod touch & Android devices.

Looks like Sony rejected the invitation for Nintendo Network/PSN cross platform play, then.

Worth noting as far as Rocket League on Xbox One will go to supporting multiplayer with PS4 players (so far an invitation has been sent out, much like how one was for Pure Chess on Wii U). Though the publicity of this might cause Sony to change their mind - this is out in the open, whereas barely anyone knew Nintendo Network supported it.

As I mentioned earlier, it's not in Sony's interests to lessen the sales the leverage they can pull to sell PS4s to those who want to play with other PS4 owners -- and there are more of those than XBO owners.

That's interesting given the below -

For those wondering, games like Dreii currently allow cross-platform play between PlayStation 4, PS Vita, Wii U, PC, Mac, Linux, iOS and Android. Sounds like Xbox will finally be joining everyone else.

I guess in that case they either refused or devs haven't had to guess to implement it yet? Either way I feel they would be open to this.

I know they can, the question was what if a Dev does not, they want to use a different architecture for their online component. Right now if course if it's azure based ms is fine cause they are buying the time on azure. Will ms allow it if a Dev say wants to use rackspace or amazon

Why wouldn't they? They don't do it atm I can't see them doing it now with cross play games.

I'd say just about the same way as Sony has been doing it with PS Plus.

Unless Street Fighter V nor Rocket League require PS Plus to play against PC players.

For MS it's a lot harder given they have plans to support cross-play with some their titles plus have the Xbox app which gives you XBL featues(party chat etc) on Win 10 right now.

 

[justsomeguy]

Given that players will get the same experience on Xbox Live as on other networks for these games, how is it justified to pay for Gold for these games?

Currently the console industry as a whole currently adopts this model without too much pushback. (I'm trying not to say "Sony Too!" but I don't know why you single out MS while not mentioning Sony, who also charge for PS+ even though the game is cross play)?

That said, I do seriously wonder if we're going to get an E3 Bomba to drop charging for XBL multiplayer (while keeping gold for other features like games with gold, discounts, etc.)