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Microsoft announces Xbox Live cross-network (PSN and other networks) play
- Thread starter Spider_Jerusalem
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At least they have the option and it helps the smaller games gain a population.
Chobel
Member
WOW! Spencer we trust!
KainXVIII
Member
Yeah, all their PC based initiatives turn to shit these days.
You know, it's quite funny to see you get upset about getting called a shill for having an opinion when earlier this morning you did the exact same thing to someone for having their own opinion. You did one of those "let me fix that for you posts" adding TM to his post and then going on to say he's Microsoft PR.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=198314280&postcount=533
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=198317794&postcount=582
I doubt this will be solved as it would involve more unified networks or solutions by all involved. Sony is rather hands off, the PC side probably couldn't care less, and MS is more occupied with Xbox/PC windows apps than anything else.
Kabuki Waq
Member
this is awesome as potentially I will not have to buy 900p or dynamic resolution games to play with my xbl buddies.
OsirisBlack
Banned
PS4 already has cross play with SFV, DCUO and FFXIV not sure of any other games wonder if Sony will do cross platform they did with FFXI but not since then I don't think.
Also what's the catch? When something sounds too good to be true it usually is.
Also what's the catch? When something sounds too good to be true it usually is.
dukeoflegs
Member
Interesting news. It's about time Microsoft allowed PC and Xbox cross play again. I remember playing a couple games on 360 with PC's in the early life of the 360.
One thing I am waiting on is how much work this will actually be for dev. engineers and what the stipulations are.
A - is the dev engineer allowed to use Sony servers to host Microsoft games or vice versa?
B - or do they have to set up their own servers to allow crossplay between consoles?
C - Does the user have the ability to pick the servers they will use (sony, Microsoft, PC)?
If B is the case I don't see a lot of smaller or medium size developers doing this when it is cheaper to have sony or microsoft host those servers. If they get a large publisher maybe this would work better for them.
I can see larger publishers doing this (EA, Ubisoft, WB), but how much time do they want to invest in testing this to verify there are no issues between gameplay of a Xbox vs PS match?
One thing I am waiting on is how much work this will actually be for dev. engineers and what the stipulations are.
A - is the dev engineer allowed to use Sony servers to host Microsoft games or vice versa?
B - or do they have to set up their own servers to allow crossplay between consoles?
C - Does the user have the ability to pick the servers they will use (sony, Microsoft, PC)?
If B is the case I don't see a lot of smaller or medium size developers doing this when it is cheaper to have sony or microsoft host those servers. If they get a large publisher maybe this would work better for them.
I can see larger publishers doing this (EA, Ubisoft, WB), but how much time do they want to invest in testing this to verify there are no issues between gameplay of a Xbox vs PS match?
I can see developers adopting it because it also strings out the life of a game which could help to increase dlc and microtransaction purchases. If after six months you have a hard time finding a game no new players are going to buy dlc or microtransactions if hardly anyways i playing. seems like a win for developers.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Oh please, if that did not read like a PR statement in context to the thread, so I was able to easily have good fun with it, then what the fuck ever, lol. Hence the winks, lol.
Why don't you read the person you are defending's illustrious history as well.
And you of all people, lol. Getting in the trenches, eh?
Oh please, if that did not read like a PR statement in context to the thread, so I was able to easily have good fun with it, then what the fuck ever, lol. Hence the winks, lol.
Why don't you read the person you are defending's illustrious history as well.
Why? I'm not the one going around calling people shills and then getting upset when I get called one.
Oh please, if that did not read like a PR statement in context to the thread, so I was able to easily have good fun with it, then what the fuck ever, lol. Hence the winks, lol.
Why don't you read the person you are defending's illustrious history as well.
And you of all people, lol. Getting in the trenches, eh?
I already explained myself what I meant with that comment. He is responsive to the community. Thus the trenches.
Chill.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Not to sound high school, but check the post history of the one you are defending, he said it to me first (and plenty of others), hence why I countered it.
The other thread you posted about, was all good fun when people were nagging on him because it was clearly not in context to the thread and wreaked a hot point from a PR brochure, lol.
And I am allowed to explain myself, straight chillin'.
Blak_Status
Member
So does anyone think cross-play with friends will get figured out?
I'm with you....All is positive.
Now ask him if it's fair console users have to pay to play the same games on the same network with the same features when PC users don't.
See how great Phil is then.
It'd probably be a case by case basis with third party games implementing solutions, if they bother.
This seems like something that has been pushed by an outside source. I can't imagine that Microsoft is doing this out of the goodness of their hearts.
My guess is that apart from psyionix and rocket league who weren't going to put their game on Xbox without it. A big 3rd party like EA or Activision finally decided that they wanted to consolidate their multiplayer audience and didn't want to have to pay for seperate servers for each console.
Microsoft is also probably looking to get out of the console space and make Xbox live a PC gaming software system like steam except paid. For that to work it would obviously have to be cross platform with Pc
My guess is that apart from psyionix and rocket league who weren't going to put their game on Xbox without it. A big 3rd party like EA or Activision finally decided that they wanted to consolidate their multiplayer audience and didn't want to have to pay for seperate servers for each console.
Microsoft is also probably looking to get out of the console space and make Xbox live a PC gaming software system like steam except paid. For that to work it would obviously have to be cross platform with Pc
Bitch Pudding
Member
Don't think there's an actual catch, just... limitations. Like, voice chat only between players of the same network, performance disadvantages for players of a certain platform, or the fact that developers have to implement cross-network in the first place.
I just checked Papo's post history, and unless it's worse or something more in... it seems like a normal poster just from 2 pages, I don't see him railing on the PS4 or anything, and I don't think it's anywhere near as bad as you think it is..
ArmsOfSorrow
Neo Member
Microsoft doubling down on their cloud business, I see.
Smart move, and, if executed well, good for developers. Bigger MP player bases are always welcome (unless there's 10 million already, but you get the idea).
Smart move, and, if executed well, good for developers. Bigger MP player bases are always welcome (unless there's 10 million already, but you get the idea).
It's about MSoft lowering their walled garden and once again allowing cross play. Nintendo and Sony are already open.
Cynn
Member
Most likely the game chat channel would be the only way to talk to friends cross console. Devs could maybe do a loose party system per game like "squads" in Battlefield or something. Id say there's less than 1% chance that XBL and PSN will mix friend lists or parties though.
When people figure this out it won't be pretty. It's still a fantastic thing to be able to matchmake though.
Inviusx
Member
Read this on Eurogamer this morning:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-03-14-microsoft-will-allow-xbox-one-games-to-connect-with-ps4-players
Not sure what their agenda is with the article but it's annoying that they conveniently fail to mention that PS4 has been doing this for years.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-03-14-microsoft-will-allow-xbox-one-games-to-connect-with-ps4-players
Not sure what their agenda is with the article but it's annoying that they conveniently fail to mention that PS4 has been doing this for years.
ATOMICJORGE
Member
We already knew this since last year but still it's good to see the head of Xbox addressing this issue that people still have.
AncientDiety
Banned
Not surprising, media is bad at their jobs. Especially game media.
He would tell you that Xbox Live on Xbox One comes with free games every month, the same reasoning that PS+ would give.
Why are people so apprehensive to believe that Phil is a great influence on the gaming industry?
Bits N Pieces
Member
Probably but it's still a weak excuse covering up the real reason which is people want to play online so they pay.
Do the math.
Aliens?
Or do you mean that they make so much money from it? Guess what, Sony and Microsoft are companies and making money is their job. Unfortunately their methods are not exactly always fair.
Microsoft + Executive = bad?
GAF math always confuses me.
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Deleted member 30609
Unconfirmed Member
That's actually super cool.
Poimandres
Member
You think so? I figured Microsoft would be trying to cock block the new Nintendo console if it's a threat to their market share.
But you know, however we slice it this is a great move for gamers!
Ricky Ricardo
Member
Great news! Microsoft will not (barring a legitimate miracle) be the market leader this generation!
Explain the logic...
Xbox users are perfectly fine with paying for Xbox live in order to play COD, Battlefield, Battlefront, Rainbow 6, GTAV, Destiny, the Division, Minecraft, NBA 2k, Madden, and FIFA etc, while their PC counterparts offer free MP.
But the moment a handful of 1st party games (which on MS' own console are less popular than the aforementioned games) go to PC, suddenly the fee becomes unfair?
It's not about 'fairness' it's about business. MS collects a fee on consoles in exchange for offering a service. Obviously, consumers view it as a decent deal, because it has been succesful. The free market accepted it.
MS would love to collect a similar fee on PC, but the market has already rejected it. They have to use a different business model in order to find success in that market.
People who don't like the fee on consoles could always vote with their wallets...
Yeah, big publishers like EA and Ubisoft may hopefully come up with with their own Origin/Uplay party/voice solutions in their own future hypothetical cross play console games. For smaller game's it's probably going to be just cross play. But who knows how widespread this will really be this gen.
Microsoft are charging because they can with success which is fine but you can still say it's not fair, ask and point out why. They don't get a pass for being a business making money. Call shit out for being shit.