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Microsoft: Xbox One leading sales in US since price cut, nearly 10 million sold-in
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They'd deserve it. They went all out with these bundles. Got me to drop dough on the Sunset bundle. I'm loving the thing. Never thought I'd say that.
Wanna talk about porn instead?
You sir won the internetz. Thats why I love GAF and its constant gifs and memes. I think talking pornography, there would a pole dancer in the middle while GAF huddles around laptops, describing which pose and position is best.
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Sony was at 13.5 million shipped by September 30th.
Microsoft approaching ~9.5 million(?) by 11/12/2014.
Microsoft undoubtedly launched a ton of bundles to retailers. I suspect shipments will be slower. They've got enough supply for awhile.
Chances are, Sony has shipped well above 16 million by now.
The gap won't close. Sony will still be shipping and selling more consoles WW than Microsoft. Thus the gap will not close.
Microsoft approaching ~9.5 million(?) by 11/12/2014.
Microsoft undoubtedly launched a ton of bundles to retailers. I suspect shipments will be slower. They've got enough supply for awhile.
Chances are, Sony has shipped well above 16 million by now.
The gap won't close. Sony will still be shipping and selling more consoles WW than Microsoft. Thus the gap will not close.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
And the deception is complete:
He's not lying! even 5 million is approaching 10 million!
Sold in is obviously not great, but it does suggest MS will definitely have plenty of stock available for nov/dec. if demand is similarly high for both platforms, MS may come out on top if Sony cannot supply as many units. Their success since launch may prevent them from fully benefiting from demand during the holidays
3 Bundles + Holiday Stock i guess.
Haint
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Technically it's $330, but also comes with a $30 Walmart GC and Halo Collection. Obviously Walmart and Amazon GC's are good as cash as they sell everything and the Halo Collection is a $60 game a shit ton of people would have bought anyway, though you could always sell/trade in if not. So yea, $240 effective.
Majmun
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And the deception is complete:
10 million what?
No. It's the launch of the Magnavox Odyssey what it's considered the start of the console generations. The 2nd generation is considered the one of the Atari 2600, and then the NES Gen.
Ok, I know sold in means just to retailers. But how am I reading this. Is this sold in also for the numbers they are quoting for the last two weeks or is it just for the 10 million.
What i mean is that I read this as the last two weeks they've sold more xbox's than PS4s in the US (as to consumers) but that the 10 million they've sold so far is to retailers and isn't necessarily to a consumer.
But are they being really trick and meaning that the numbers they are using for the last two weeks is how many sold to retailers?
What i mean is that I read this as the last two weeks they've sold more xbox's than PS4s in the US (as to consumers) but that the 10 million they've sold so far is to retailers and isn't necessarily to a consumer.
But are they being really trick and meaning that the numbers they are using for the last two weeks is how many sold to retailers?
Gotdatmoney
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Almost 10 million shipped is solid. I think being able to ship that many units is good, wouldn't it imply that retailers have confidence they'll be able to clear a large portion of that stock?
Shipped to retailers.
Sell through to consumers 10m? That's gonna be rough. Not so sure
cackhyena said:
I played the XBO a lot, I like some things about it, others things I think are quite bad. But I love their fall lineup. I'd have one already if not for their ID@Xbox parity clause... *sigh*
It's like... bragging about shipped numbers they haven't yet even hit.
How many of these things do they have sitting in warehouses by now to be able to dump that many into the channel in 3 weeks, lol.
Cornbread78
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Sorry fellas, not an insider and did not claim to be one. I could only get numbers for 1 store, but the local stores all talk and I ask around other stores because I'm nosey..
NPD is tomorrow...connect the dots and all that
It's Hindle
Thanks for telling everyone.
Seriously, did you actually read the posts? I had to stop quoting people because pretty much every post before yours already knew this.
miles per hour! wwwooooosshhhhh,,,,,,
if this is true. thats cool. As long as the games keep coming to xbone ill play them either way.
Hey you would do it too if you were Microsoft!
TheJollyCorner
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Because Sony has been 'winning' without having to make any cuts.
It's an ideal situation for any business.
When/if they see consecutive months of consumers no longer rushing to buy their system and the competitor gaining ground, that's when you make a move. This hasn't happened (yet). It might not even happen until Sony's trying to push their VR out and need to start lowering the price of entry in order to get a good adoption rate up for their new shiny gadget.
Sony is sitting in a comfortable position. They have a war-chest of exclusives scheduled on a fairly consistent basis next year. They will continue sending the message that (baring a few rare cases) multi-plats are the best on PS4. Indie games will continue to hit their digital store. Content is flowing at a steady pace. Their system sales profits will continue feeding smart marketing deals, leading to further profits.
They also know MS, post MCC, seemingly doesn't have much to offer (as far as big exclusives go) until possibly as late as next fall. Even if MS wins the holiday season with a cheaper system with a bundle of games, it's entirely possible they begin to flatline again as of January.
As another poster here pointed out- Nov/December is where the battle is fought, but Jan through October is ultimately where the war is won.
Cutting the price is a reactionary move, IMO, and Sony hasn't had to react to anything yet. MS is the one doing all of the reacting.
Sony knows that the PS4 is still a desired piece of technology. The userbase is growing and word of mouth continues to pick up steam. They can sit back, release their own bundle with two of the highest rated games of last year (GTAV and TLOU), not even have to lower the price, and still be fiercely competitive this holiday. They will continue to grow that userbase- and they won't have to take drastic cuts to do it.
At this point Sony knows they will dominate marketshare worldwide this gen... and I imagine that's the most important aspect for them. They likely didn't even expect to 'win' the US, so the past 10 months have likely just been icing on the cake.
'Profit' is the name of the game- and they'll hold to that until the market forces them to change course. I don't see that happening any time soon.
iamvin22
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Are you serious?
lmaoooo Well, he got un-juniored allright.
Dragonborn
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Jesus, there must be millions of them on shelves then. I doubt they're anywhere near 7 million sold through yet.
That seems to be the question. No one is sure except for Microsoft. And that's the way they want it to sound, so it's probably the latter.
It's plausible. We have seen the reaction to the kind of deals they've been putting out. As Christmas gets nearer, sales usually explode even more so.
It's not downplaying its just reading between the lines
Dragonborn
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Yup, 9 million best case. They're probably going to be selling through these 10 million well into February or March.
StrongBlackVine
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No, it's just extremely unlikely.
Hasnt people gone over this a million times ?. you cant just send 10 milion products to a store. the stores has to buy them.. and to buy them it has to be selling.
I'll start by stating that...I'm about to buy a Xbox. I get every console every gen. But at $500 with kinect and the busy life I lead, leaving X1 in the cold was easy.
But I'll say this. No doubt the market overwhelmingly chose correctly. The value disparity between the two products in the initial period was just remarkable. If anything the gap should be wider.
Since then MS has done a lot to revive and streamline the platform...but I won't mince words. They deserved to lose in the market place.
I'm going to be a bit more conservative and say that MS will ship around 11 million, but sell through an 8.5-8.75 million units.
Anything more than that sold will be nearing historic sales performance over the next 2 months.
The bolded especially is a good point; they probably didn't expect to be where they are right now given how much a of a beat down they received last gen in NA.
I know, but I'm just trying to think of their path to 10m. I mean, the numbers in October especially would have to be some dramatic overperformance to hit that mark I'd think. November and December might be quite huge for Microsoft due to the deals. But October would be the month that would make or break the possibility. And I'm just not quite sure they did that great in October because these insane deals weren't really a thing yet.
Hindle said:
I would say it's more like 'not impossible', but relatively low on the probability scale. It really would depend on them overperforming in October I think.
Microsoft is doing well. Looking at the pictures a few pages it looks like they are using the same old tactics of piling consoles onto retail. I don't think stores will need to restock until March.
I think they have NPD in the bag this month unless Sony has some major Black Friday sales plan.
I think they have NPD in the bag this month unless Sony has some major Black Friday sales plan.
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