NPDs are tomorrow, and Sony's about to beat them...again. This has happened before. MS puts out a nice-looking statement like this the day before, then Sony wins the next day.
Edit: Beat like MS tomorrow.
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Microsoft: Xbox One leading sales in US since price cut, nearly 10 million sold-in
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NPDs are tomorrow, and Sony's about to beat them...again. This has happened before. MS puts out a nice-looking statement like this the day before, then Sony wins the next day.
Edit: Beat like MS tomorrow.
Kagoshima_Luke
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Great pic, Yusuf. Thx for sharing.
Quite possible.
That's not how billion$ business work.
Nelson pls.
Hahahahaha alrighty then Spin Dr. Nelson. You aren't doing yourself or the company you represent any favors.
Right, exactly. If you said "competition is good" during the early months of this gen, the argument would be made in reverse: the market has spoken, competition is good only in context to a product of merit.
Right now the market has spoken for two weeks, because these are insane deals. But what happens once the games come back out of the bundle and the system is $399 again? Or will MS keep it at the $349 price point? There's a lot of considerations for the long term sustainability of this surge.
Consider for example the PS2. GCN and Xbox were no where near that system, PS2 completely dominated... and that system had one of the most diverse lineups of all time. And was consistently giving consumers great deals with greatest hits games, great console prices, etc.
I just hear "competition is good" all the time as a cold hard cement statement, and I like the add the qualifier in there because it's actually neutral.
It's generally assumed competition means competitive offerings in the sense of something different, high quality or good value.
Windom Earle
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Byebye Ray, hello Hindle.
I know this thread is pretty much u.s related but in the UK their bundles really aren't that great. When think back in April I bought an Xbox with kinect and titanfall for £349.
Now for 20 quid less 7 months later you get just the base unit and a game. Shows they aren't really trying over here anymore And could probably go a lot lower if they wanted. But we're British and getting something cheaper that actually isn't is the norm.
Now for 20 quid less 7 months later you get just the base unit and a game. Shows they aren't really trying over here anymore And could probably go a lot lower if they wanted. But we're British and getting something cheaper that actually isn't is the norm.
HORRORSHØW
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i really like second-place microsoft. they've been aggressive as fuck with their pricing and gamers are consequently winning. hopefully it prods sony to drop bombs during their december event.
Ahhh forgot it was that time already.
- Hey Major Nelson, I saw your tweet about selling 10m xboxes in the US. That's amazing, well done!
- well..actually that 10m is world wide, not just the U.S.
- oh. Well still, selling 10m is a great achievement. That's a lot of happy consumers
- well..we haven't actually sold them all to consumers yet. We've shipped them into stores ready to sell to people.
- oh. Ok I'm sure those shops will sell them soon. Still, shipping 10m out to stores takes some doing, eh?
- well..we haven't actually shipped 10m yet. We will soon though
- oh ffs.
- well..actually that 10m is world wide, not just the U.S.
- oh. Well still, selling 10m is a great achievement. That's a lot of happy consumers
- well..we haven't actually sold them all to consumers yet. We've shipped them into stores ready to sell to people.
- oh. Ok I'm sure those shops will sell them soon. Still, shipping 10m out to stores takes some doing, eh?
- well..we haven't actually shipped 10m yet. We will soon though
- oh ffs.
This month's NPD thread is going to be depressing as hell with no creamsugar and Aquamarine out of the picture
Gestault said:
Why would it even mean that? Competition in this context literally just means: anyone who is striving for similar slice of the market and you're trying to beat them. There's nothing else implied in the term whatsoever.
Nelson pls.
So much deception in less than 140 characters.
Perfect
Well if you convince enough people to think that 10 million people bought the Xbox One, you'll think it'll be cool enough to have and want one I guess.
This month's NPD thread is going to be depressing as hell with no creamsugar and Aquamarine out of the picture
Oh yeah, forgot about that stuff going down.
Right, exactly. If you said "competition is good" during the early months of this gen, the argument would be made in reverse: the market has spoken, competition is good only in context to a product of merit.
Right now the market has spoken for two weeks, because these are insane deals. But what happens once the games come back out of the bundle and the system is $399 again? Or will MS keep it at the $349 price point? There's a lot of considerations for the long term sustainability of this surge.
Consider for example the PS2. GCN and Xbox were no where near that system, PS2 completely dominated... and that system had one of the most diverse lineups of all time. And was consistently giving consumers great deals with greatest hits games, great console prices, etc.
I just hear "competition is good" all the time as a cold hard cement statement, and I like the add the qualifier in there because it's actually neutral.
I live in a country were monopolies are prominent and rampant, no matter what benevolent a corporation may look, once they hold of the market you are down for an ugly run.
As for merits I think that is a personal choice, that is the beauty of free market people perception of value is different, that's why we have different products for different tastes. A sector of the core audience keep bringing on and on the 1080p on PS4 superior hardware, like if the only logical outcome was to buy a PS4 regardless of other factors, crazy as it sounds maybe that bullet point is in fact no that important for a lot people.
Deserved it ? As if it was a special effort for MS, a company benefiting from nearly monopolistical situations in OS and Office tools, with billions in cash reserves...
They are trying to save the XB1's ass, and what they're doing here is only costing them the price of a drop of water.
Freeman
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This is probably all they intend to sell in this quarter, nothing impressive.
If they can't outsell the PS4 at $349, (soon to be $329) with 2 games bundled and big releases like SO and MCC they might as well just quit.
SCEA isn't doing a very good job with the PS4, they should be more aggressive when it comes to bundles,etc, this is a key market and pretty much the only place where the XO still stands a chance.
November will likely go to MS with a decent margin(unless GTAV bundle is insanely successful), December will be more interesting.
If they can't outsell the PS4 at $349, (soon to be $329) with 2 games bundled and big releases like SO and MCC they might as well just quit.
SCEA isn't doing a very good job with the PS4, they should be more aggressive when it comes to bundles,etc, this is a key market and pretty much the only place where the XO still stands a chance.
November will likely go to MS with a decent margin(unless GTAV bundle is insanely successful), December will be more interesting.
Endoplasmatisch
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What? The AC bundle just went up to #7:
http://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-video-games/zgbs/videogames/ref=pd_dp_ts_vg_1
PS4 is at #13.
Hahahahaha alrighty then Spin Dr. Nelson. You aren't doing yourself or the company you represent any favors.
Nice. Classic Riker chair mount.
Dragonborn
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Well, yea AC unity just came out didn't it? It'll likely drop in due time. Still, I see the X1 maybe edging the PS4 out in NA for Nov. WW, it won't be even remotely close.
Sounds like by Black Friday and December
DirgeExtinction
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So like the 10M sold in to China?
That'd make 20M.
Xbox surpassed the PS4!
That'd make 20M.
Xbox surpassed the PS4!
/s
JetBlackPanda
Member
what does this even mean?
there are 12 months in a year. Somehow winning two months (granted they are huge sales months ) out of 12 means the king has returned?
you ignore them getting their ass handed to them the rest of the year?
The Shogun
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NPD is gonna be hella interesting.
Xbone been killing it since the price cut / bundles.
Xbone been killing it since the price cut / bundles.
When people say "competition is good"? Yeah, there is in the sense that it means options, and people will tend to choose what they like.
If that's what it takes for Sony to take this gen seriously, then sure.
Return of the King.
I'll answer that. I always get local ads on thr top and bottom of the page and thought that was ingrained in the GAF programming code to get additionala revenue ala youtube. Lately, offers me to join a single Christian Dating site im Canada, go figure
. Alright I won't derail this thread. Sorry to see Ray banned, but tid GAF. GAF gotta operate like a well-oiled machine.when were they the king?
well that made me chuckle. good one
yurinka
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"Shortly, we will have sold in to retailers more than 10 Million"
When it's 'shortly' to have 10 million shipped? 1 year? 1 Million? In January?
To triply sales during 2 weeks after a pricecut and great bundles and 'to lead next gen sales during these 2 weeks at the start of November and with the upcoming debut of their main exclusive IP this gen sounds good, let's see how much does it last and if it happens outside US too.
When it's 'shortly' to have 10 million shipped? 1 year? 1 Million? In January?
To triply sales during 2 weeks after a pricecut and great bundles and 'to lead next gen sales during these 2 weeks at the start of November and with the upcoming debut of their main exclusive IP this gen sounds good, let's see how much does it last and if it happens outside US too.
It's just feel good news that might rub off on consumers and lead to more sales. Positive vibe does wonders.
Gestault said:
Why? How are you pulling that out of air?
I can tell you for a fact that's nonsense too because we've actually had this debate with many other GAFers when they say 'competition is good.' And it's never, ever about the "quality of the competitive products." Not even once in the literal decade+ I've been having that argument on GAF. It's always some starry eyed wishy-washy stuff about how the companies do better for consumers when someone is breathing down their neck.
You have to be the first person I've ever heard interpret it that way, and it's a very convenient interpretation.
Everyone has a history with companies dominating. But one company doing significantly better than other is not actually a monopoly or anything like it. There's still tons of gaming companies out there that are providing viable alternatives, they're just not doing as well. Not the same concern.
As for your second comment, that's really not something I'm going to dig into here. I know you're an XBO guy and whatnot, but the issue has nothing to do with whether some players find merit in it. Most of the market did not early on, and that was because of its price, the decisions around it and more. That is the definition of a free market working. We can't say we want a free market and then decry it when it does its job
Not that you're doing that, but it sounds a bit like you think the market speaking so loudly on XBO was some indictment on your own preference toward it.
*sigh* Gonna be the worst NPD in ages
The Shogun
Banned
Yes next month.
Syphon Filter
Banned
They're still behind even the in u.s.
AnthonypUK
Member
All of them were above the ps4 prior to release, AC bundle will start to slip in the next 3/4 days just like the other bundles.
So all the outlets are reporting it that MS have sold 10 million Xbox ones in the same breath as the ps4 having done it months ago.
MS have stuffed the channel, 7 million in stores compared to 5.5 to customers.
So they are maybe at 8 million to customers compared to 10 million in stores.
Lies and spin.
MS have stuffed the channel, 7 million in stores compared to 5.5 to customers.
So they are maybe at 8 million to customers compared to 10 million in stores.
Lies and spin.
Deserve the win for a couple weeks of making the XB1 a very worthwhile offer. Jesus Christ.
*sigh* Gonna be the worst NPD in ages
I'm sure someone will come through and post the NPD numbers somewhere on the net.
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