plasmawave
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Seriously, even my cat was like "meow meow meow Xbox One will totally outsell PS4 in November meow meow meow."
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Pachter Predicts: Xbox One outsold PS4 in September (dance, you puppets)
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Seriously, even my cat was like "meow meow meow Xbox One will totally outsell PS4 in November meow meow meow."
I'm not much of a Halo fan, but plan to pick it up by Xmas. Never finished 3, ODST, or 4. Might as well actually play through a remastered series.
I'd assume he meant "not a big fan" rather than "don't like".
Australia biggest PS4 fanboys confirmed.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
I don't think him "doing his job" makes him any less of a tool. He does a job many people do (provide sales numbers) and makes a total tool of himself while doing it. At least that's how he always seems to me.
travisbickle
Member
I don't think a month loss in the US would change any of sony's plans. I'm sure prelaunch they were expecting a tough time in the US considering they were outsold last gen by 15 million. As it stands currently, MS would probably need a year of back-to-back wins to catch up in their strongest market, sony don't need to change anything yet.
Yeah, it's stupid. I've already got one. I'm not buying another.
Maintenance
Member
I don't even know what you guys are trying to do anymore, but please be free to keep doing it. I already said that it is anecdotal, but apparently some of you didn't read that also.
I'm out, this is getting too fanboyish to my tastes.
Dragonborn
Member
MS wont' win a single month this year. In fact, I believe they won't win a single month until either:
A $100 price cut (assuming Sony hasn't dropped the price yet)
or
Halo 5 release month (assuming Sony doesn't release UC4 and/or price cut around the same time).
Really, I only see them "winning" a month if Sony messes up (along with the above two scenarios). Like if they run of inventory this season, I could see them winning December (like last year) or if Sony does something stupid.
Most people saying MS will win just seem to assume Sony are just going to sit on their hands and do nothing, which is ridiculous.
markedbravado
Member
can someone add Michael Pachters prediction to the bulletin board with the scratch offs? Pretty please.
I agree, especially when it's releasing on the same day as Dragon Age: Inquisition, Far Cry 4, Grand Theft Auto V, Project CARS, & WWE 2K15. And most of those games are bigger in popularity than LBP as a whole.
The Shogun
Banned
Wait a fucking second.
Did Pachter predict PS4 to be at August NPD levels?
Dear lord have mercy
Did Pachter predict PS4 to be at August NPD levels?
Dear lord have mercy
Hah! Yea no. Pachter is known for being wrong the vast majority of the time often by margins far greater than the average GAF predictions. But I'm not surprised to see you making outlandish/absurd claims in defense of Xbox after the AC: Unity threads. I don't understand how you continue to get away with making absurd claims without any proof whatsoever. By all means please continue for the amusement of all.
Nastrodamous
Member
Good the ps4 at this point needs of work not only in terms of games but services as well
Especially since Sony has marketing rights to 3 of those games.
you've really stepped through the looking glass on this one
Nightengale
Member
That's the laughable part of the entire thing.
Predicting XB1 selling more than PS4? Far-fetched, but not improbable.
The numbers however, are pretty much impossible. Especially since we know Destiny week was the biggest week in 2014 for Sony.
Lol, am I concerned? I don't know...maybe I am. Is it a bad thing?
I just want the kind of games that made me feel in love with my PS3 and forget my 360.
This year was rather weak for Sony first party. I still haven't bought a single one of their games. Thankfully next year should be better.
Pathfinder
Member
Yeh well my comment is about as useful and factual as anyone saying every friend I know is getting an xbox one when halo comes out. We should let the actual numbers do the talking, you see people all the time say , i get multiplats on my xbox one because thats where all my friends are, yet statistically you would have more friends with a PS4 considering the 2 to 1 sales gap.
theprodigy
Member
....ignoring his laughable PS4 numbers, how does the XB1 number look?
In terms of selling systems, remasters don't have much pull at all.
Japanmanx3
Member
What I by "people who don't like halo" was people who just think it's an average game and normally wouldn't buy it.
Obviously the game is not for people who hate Halo, but there's a difference between hating and not particularly liking something.
People like me, I guess. I mean, I'm gonna have fun playing it with my friends and I'm gonna get my moneys worth out of it more than probably any other game releasing this holiday except for CoD if it's good, so when taking all that into consideration why not put $60 down on a game I don't particular like, but don't hate either?
BeforeU
Oft hope is born when all is forlorn.
Halo MCC all the way. Package contains insane value. And dont forget it contains Halo 1-2 multiplayer which you cant even play right now. This is a must buy for any halo and shooter fan. GTA5 is just a year old and still playable on old consoles and it costs full price. Real question would be, how many will go and drop 60$ on better visual of the game they already played a year ago. It has already sold 35million I think. So all the casual gamers who buy every new GTA games have already played it.
Uno Venova
Banned
Or just in general.
Are you counting November as being part of the first year or the first month of the second year? MCC, while it might not sell as much as a new Halo game, will probably sell a lot and get people to buy the system. That month i would say that MS will sell more consoles (as the month does not have a huge game for sony).
Hawk269
Member
WTF at the "you would have more friends with a PS4 considering the 2 to 1 sales gap" comment. Just because it has a 2 to 1 gap, does not necessitate that people would have more friends on their list.
A lot of the friends on my list are people I have known for years or Xbox Live, even though I have a PS4, I would not go with PS4 only just because they have a 2 to 1 gap and I have a chance at having more friends on my list.
Might want to use some Windex on that crystal ball champ.
Memorabilia
Member
I agree with this 100%. Ever since MS tried to screw gamers with their anti-consumer BS and followed up with the absolutely brain-dead, tone-deaf PR response to the predictable gamer outrage (that they could have easily avoided) I've been a champion of PS+ and Sony in general for saying and doing all the right things.
But in the last few months MS really started competing and Sony kind of sat back on their laurels. The PS4 UI needs updated badly to provide a better way to organize games. OS media center features need added, like thumb drive movie playback, native PLEX, etc... Instead we get "stability updates." PSN and the online store both need a major overhaul: online reliability is nowhere close to XBL (in my experience) and the layout/organization/ergonomics of the store is ridiculously bad. I still encounter problems watching game preview videos, for example...inexplicably they wont go full-screen or when they do they buffer and stop constantly. Even PS+ which was a BEAST in terms of value to the consumer for a good solid 12-18 months has begun to lose much of its luster as the game rentals on offer have steadily declined in value over the past few months. I already have many of the Indies on Steam and simply dont care for many of the others. Going by sentiments I've seen increasing on GAF I know I'm not alone in considering letting my PS+ sub expire if Sony doesn't get back to aggressively competing.
I'm not in the habit of rooting for a company unless I own stock in it, but in this case I'd like to see MS get a sales boost because they have actually risen to the challenge the past few months by steadily improving Xbone UI experience, adding much desired features to the OS, and by maintaining the usual XBL reliability/speed. They deserve to be rewarded for competing and doing the right things thus far to at least partially make up for the total cluster-fuck of a launch. And, most importantly, a sales boost would be good for gamers if only to wake Sony up again. Competition is good.
Disaster Nebraska
Banned
They do have some pull.
I think the argument "would an exclusively marketed GTAV remaster have more pull than the exclusive Halo collection?" is a fair question. GTAV came out last year and I think a few people would jump into the remaster, similar to how Last of Us Remastered actually sold pretty decently. Halo has been on a downward trend but we'll see if a remaster brings in the numbers. Like most holiday seasons, it will be the 3rd party games that push console sales and I don't see Sony losing in that department. Didn't Madden sell more on PS4 despite the X1's exclusive bundle?
Though GTA V would probably be a bigger pull than a collection of 4 Halo games that most people have already played to death. And you could also transfer your progress from your 360 or PS3 versions of the game onto the PS4 version (not sure about the Xbox One version).
Not saying that Halo: MCC won't do terrific (which it should), but playing GTA V in Native 1080p when most gamers have Native 1080p HDTV's & Monitors...
markedbravado
Member
Solaire of Astora
Death by black JPN
But this is GTA we're talking about.
Teletraan1
Banned
If only Sony had updated their OS in a timely fashion they wouldn't have thrown this generation away. It goes right up there with other top blunders like $599 and RROD and 3.58MHz processors.
neogaffer1
Banned
Ignoring the context of this sentence makes it one of the funniest things I've read all day.
That one multiplat remaster that's getting like zero advertising and is coming out with little to no hype vs. a major exclusive remaster with several games that's being hyped as the return of one of the greatest franchises of all time.
Sure, November is totally Sony's month.
Difference is most TLOU copies sold to PS4 owners who didn't have a PS3 last gen and never played it before or 360 owners who upgraded to a PS4 having never played TLOU before. GTA V was multiplat, though, and it's also on Xbox One. It's really not going to do much for Sony.
RowdyReverb
Member
I don't know if there's been enough time since GTA V came out for most people to want to play it again yet. I could see it selling well, but I don't see it moving consoles. Why would somebody drop $450 to play an enhanced version of a game they just played 15 months ago?
Sony's probably saving it as a surprise to throw Microsoft off guard to let them think that they don't have anything to counter Halo: MCC with.
You got me laughing at your comment in a good way. I still don't get how Pachter can get his "predictions" published on WSJ or Bloomberg and yet his gaming forecasts are totally off. i'm sure some GAFers on the NPD predict thread can get closer to actual NPD numbers without having a fancy credentials like Pachter has. If I were a stockbroker, going off his analysis, I'd be broke. If I took his analysis as reverse-predictions than we'd all be rich, but in the business world, nobody wants to be seen as a reverse prophet. Still should make for an interesting NPD
scratch that. Didn't read the whole moving console part.
Why would someone drop 450$ to play an enhanced version of a game they played 15 months ago?
Well we must first take notice that there are still people that haven't made the jump to the current gen and that also there's the remaster=better mindset. Also that there's the whole save transfer from Xbox 360/ps3 to ps4.