Everything is shipped. The graph is correct, 13.5M as of end of September for PS4, counting on x-axis is from the corresponding first launch date, not start of a year or NA launch or something else.
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Microsoft: Xbox One leading sales in US since price cut, nearly 10 million sold-in
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Everything is shipped. The graph is correct, 13.5M as of end of September for PS4, counting on x-axis is from the corresponding first launch date, not start of a year or NA launch or something else.
Very possibly, I am not making the assumption that it's the same elsewhere in the country, or online, but I just found it surprising and eye opening.
Based on the Pal Chart Tracker, it is business as usual for xbox and playstation. Plus any major release will boost a console interest level
Gotdatmoney
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Sometimes I wonder if people actually recognize how much 1 million is.
It's all about which company is best right now. Sony were bad at the start of last gen, which is why they struggled to bring the PS3 neck and neck with the 360. MS has been pretty bad since around 2010, which is why they're getting the hate they are nowadays. Reasonable people will change their opinions about these companies over time, as their policies change.
BruceLeeRoy
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Quite strange the situation in the UK, since the launch of both consoles I have seen very little Xbox 1 advertising.
Infact, the only retailer I have seen advertising the Xbox 1 (TV) is Tesco, a supermarket.
Whilst I've never seen a GAME Xbox 1 advert, but atleast 90% more adverts by them for the PS4.
From my experience for every 10 PS4 adverts, I've seen 1 Xbox One advert, and the Xbox adverts are usually from slightly obscure retailers such as Tesco, which whilst huge and well known, aren't generally the first place someone would think to buy a game console from, that would generally go to Argos, Game and Amazon.
On topic of this thread, I've seen multiple outlets run titles "10m Xbox One's Sold", "Xbox now beating Sony", etc etc, without actually mentioning how it's not to consumers and so on.
MMaRsu
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I am condemning MS for the plans they had, which they only changed after massive consumer outlash. And the attitude they displayed.
Sony changed their tune years and years ago. If MS is still on the right track next gen maybe then ill give them the benefit of the doubt.
Got it?
Or they're one of those people who think NPD is an indication of worldwide sales each month and not just North America. We seem to put ALL stock as to a game system's sales and worth purely based on NPD around here a lot. It's a tool to track a single region. We won't see 500k-1mil sales differences between these two systems on that report.
Miles Quaritch
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Well, I thought those types of posts were being clamped down on....guess not.
Fantastic news if that's the case. I couldn't be happier.
ClosingADoor
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I never saw the problem with that. Used to happen a lot.
The problem was the confusion and refusal to just call it a timed exclusive.
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On topic, when does the November NPD 'happen'? I usually miss those threads
Xbox One is also under different management now than when it was first announced. New CEO of the entire company and new head of the division.
From Amazon sales I would say XB1 outsold PS4 first Nov week 200-250k to 100k and will continue to outsell it at 150-200k to 100k unless anything happens.
So maybe 700-800k vs. 400k if (big IF) Sony has no Black Friday bundles or other deals available. But Sony or at least retailer will have the deals so Black Friday will decide the actual difference.
Then we'll see if XB1 will reach some market saturation even at the low price in December.
oldergamer
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You're basically cutting slack for sony and not MS. that's what it boils down to. Sony said online should be free, then made an about face and have a paywall. You're answer to that is "i don't blame them"
MS said a bunch of shit and made an about face prior to xbox one launch. The question now is " do you blame them? "
oldergamer
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you're arguments are contradictory man. let's just end it here.
400k ? No way ,too low. Ps3 in 2007 sold 466k in November.
Selling an $800-900 console for $600 isn't greedy.
MaineUPTDC
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EXACTLY. Again they don't give a damn about you as the consumer. They care about profits like all other companies. And if all consumers held grudges then no company would exist.
At the end of the day its nothing wrong with deciding when, where, and how you want to spend your hard earned money and what you want to spend your money on. People make their own decisions how they see fit. But remember that its never personal, just business.....and that rings true on the business side and on the consumer side
I just wanted to say, that I'm not trying to be an asshole. I just find gamers with internal biases to one company to be fickle and full of short-term memory when it best suits their biases.
I've been fucked by every single one of these companies in the pictures below, but at the end of the day, I love video games and think they all bring something of value worthy of our money.
I've been fucked by every single one of these companies in the pictures below, but at the end of the day, I love video games and think they all bring something of value worthy of our money.
I just wanted to say, that I'm not trying to be an asshole. I just find gamers with internal biases to one company to be fickle and full of short-term memory when it best suits their biases.
I've been fucked by every single one of these companies in the pictures below, but at the end of the day, I love video games and think they all bring something of value worthy of our money.
Nice
"You're" is a contraction of "you are".
crazygambit
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November last year was the console launch. They did 1 million in a day, which I very much doubt they're gonna repeat.
Though MS winning by 500k to a million is absolutely ridiculous of course.
Kazuma Kiryu
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It's already anecdotal retailer story time? Man, time flies.
hhhahaha nope.
No, but thinking people would want one so badly that they would get a second job, is.
TheExecutive
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All it really means at this point in time.
That's not greedy though, it's delusional.
Don't take it personally Sonny, it's just business.
Of course they did and we'll have these threads again when another pricecut or big game hits.
Birgitte2004
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Do people simply not realize just how insignificant November sales are prior to Black Friday relatively?
There is ZERO chance Xbox One sold 200-250K in the first week of November. If they cracked 100K it'd be a miracle.
REMEMBER CITADEL
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I share that sentiment. I have only ever owned Sony and Microsoft consoles, but both are guilty of a lot of crap, and both have made products that have given me a lot of pleasure over the years.
*snip*
Please clean that dust :| it's hurting me to think it's out there right now
That is a shit November.
Chobel
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LOL
Hah. I didn't even notice how dusty that was until the pic. That room is very dark and the flash on the camera phone really highlights it.
Final Verdict
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I meant the probabally sold that much by right now. I figure they sold a lot at the launch of Cod and Halo.
Just think, if they sold "more than triple this past week of what they sold the last week in October (SSO week) that is almost a month's worth of sales there, so 7.5M is not impossible.
You telling me they have over 3M units sitting on the shelves?
They had 3M units sold through at the end of Dec. So it's kinda hard to believe that they would have only sold 2.5M units in the past 10 months.
This is purely my opinion, but I think some of yall are clearly underestimating the X1s sales.
If it is only selling. 4.5-5M in a whole year, then that is bad news for the industry indeed.
I like Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo too. I also buy their hardware based off of the games.
I'll come stand in the corner with you
.jimbobsmells
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Wait, what?
WW it's over and that happens when MS made this bundles/price cuts US exclusive admitting defeat in rest of the world. The only battles will be held in US and maybe UK.
Do people not read? This is the scenario if there was no Black Friday. It is not my prediction for Nov numbers (which I would not predict before end of Nov).
Why is that? XB1 had 2 SKUs sitting at the spot where one PS4 SKU sells some 100K a week. Plus some more SKUs at lower ranks.
DudeWithNoName
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Your post is excellent, and 100% correct. And those pics...beautiful.I just wanted to say, that I'm not trying to be an asshole. I just find gamers with internal biases to one company to be fickle and full of short-term memory when it best suits their biases.
I've been fucked by every single one of these companies in the pictures below, but at the end of the day, I love video games and think they all bring something of value worthy of our money.
ethomaz
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2.5m at retailer?
Xbone didn't shipped 10 million yet.
And yes... ~2 million at retail in November before BF is expected and reasonable.
BTW if they shipped right now ~9 million then I will downgrade the my estimate to 7 million sold max... I'm guessing they shipped 9.5m.
I'm not going to keep moaning at MS for their massive fuck up at the start of this gen. But then I am also not going to buy a XboxOne. I was a 360 owner last gen and decided to vote with my wallet and get a PS4 this gen.
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