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[Barrylocke]

Well Life marches on, but the long and short of my thoughts that I was going to followup up is that if I drop my vote on Theworthyedge (seems pretty likely), it's probably going to be for a person wanting to vote on an inactive/random. I was going to elaborate on who and why by post analysis, but that will have to wait. But that's my current gameplan unless things change.

 

[exmachina64]

I have taken a solitary walk in the desert to reflect upon our situation.

And, after much moral introspection, it is with a heavy heart that I must submit to you my fellow marooned, the painfully optimal solution to our 'double agent' conundrum:

We should draw straws.


Curly ones are hard to wash, but it's all hypothetical.

Should we send someone to make sure you're okay IRL?

 

[CzarTim]

So, I see 5 possibilities for my vote:

1. Detain Blargonaut because he's actively hindering my enjoyment of this game. I doubt he's a Hutt, but as I've said before, I don't mind making a suboptimal choice in favor of having fun. This is a game, in the end.
2. Detain Rymuth for low activity. It's too easy for Hutts to skate by if we don't pressure them into posting. We don't want to depend on power roles to root them out. Why Rymuth over Quantum? I agree about WorthyEdge seeming a bit suspicious, but otherwise, he's been a bit erratic.
3. Detain QuantumBro for low activity. Why him over Rymuth? His only post of note is advocating we lynch inactives, which I strongly agree with. Some bias from last game makes me favor him as well.
4. No detain. I haven't actually been swayed into thinking we HAVE to lynch Day 1. It certainly feels like I'll be outnumbered though.
5. Detain a person I feel is acting particularly suspicious. It's fucking Day 1. You'd have to parade around with a slave girl on a leash for me to have any strong feelings about you being a Hutt at this point.

For now:

Vote: No Detain

I'm glad I wasn't the only one to notice QB being quiet. I was giving him the benefit of the doubt since it was the weekend though. He was an asset to the town last game, so I'd like to give him a chance.

Regardless of his true affiliation, Blargonaut's posts are acting against the town's best interest. If he is town, he is distracting and preventing actual discussion. If we get to a situation where detaining the wrong person loses us the game, he is an obvious target and thus a reason we could lose. For this reason. he's not a bad choice.

For now I'm sticking with Rymuth though. His posts have been wishy washy, and when called out on it, he continued to be wishy washy.

 

[Blargonaut]

Regardless of his true affiliation, Blargonaut's posts are acting against the town's best interest. If he is town, he is distracting and preventing actual discussion. If we get to a situation where detaining the wrong person loses us the game, he is an obvious target and thus a reason we could lose. For this reason. he's not a bad choice.

Oh please.

I'm away from the wreckage most of the day anyway, talk around me if you must.

If I had known the Alliance had such stoic sticks, I would have joined the Empire in a heartbeat, bleh.

Should we send someone to make sure you're okay IRL?

Thanks for the sentiment, but I assure you, I'm gaming.

 

[Palmer_v1]

I'm glad I wasn't the only one to notice QB being quiet. I was giving him the benefit of the doubt since it was the weekend though. He was an asset to the town last game, so I'd like to give him a chance.

Regardless of his true affiliation, Blargonaut's posts are acting against the town's best interest. If he is town, he is distracting and preventing actual discussion. If we get to a situation where detaining the wrong person loses us the game, he is an obvious target and thus a reason we could lose. For this reason. he's not a bad choice.

For now I'm sticking with Rymuth though. His posts have been wishy washy, and when called out on it, he continued to be wishy washy.

Yeah, it being the weekend is another reason I'm not pursuing the inactivity too hard. Could always be real life shit going down too. I'm kinda glad we didn't start last Monday, because I started an on-call rotation that would have kept me super busy. I'm still getting caught up because of it. Luckily, I don't have a ton of newbie questions to ask this time.

 

[Blargonaut]

Also, if I was truly as disruptive as you and Palmer say, the other survivors would've said so by now.

I say we don't kill Blargonaut because we'll need some humor when things get tense later.

Oh, but NO, this gang likes me.

If the rest of the crew find me annoying, by all means, pipe up; or else *this* torpedo will continue cruising.

 

[Terrabyte20xx]

Guys a thought just occurred to me: what if Blarg has a role that REQUIRES him to post the way he does? I once read of a game where a guy had to write all his posts in a specific format because he drew the role of William Shakespeare. Maybe Blarg drew something similar?

 

[eJawa]

Vote: Blargonaut

I have no idea if he is Hutt or not, but I belive he is going to de-rail discussion either way. Either way, it will slightly narrow down our next choice and hopefully we get some usefull info in day 2.

 

[Palmer_v1]

Time remaining in the current day phase:

Current votes
13 votes are needed for a majority descision
Names with a strike voted and then unvoted

I think this is the current votes. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

TheWorthyEdge: BarryLocke(R.I.P.)

swamped: Traube, LoC (These mothafuckin' mafia!)

Exmachina64: Terrabyte20xx

Rymuth: CzarTim

Blargonaut: Blargonat

No Detain: Palmer_v1

 

[Palmer_v1]

I think this is the current votes. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

TheWorthyEdge: BarryLocke(R.I.P.)

swamped: Traube, LoC (These mothafuckin' mafia!)

Exmachina64: Terrabyte20xx

Rymuth: CzarTim

Blargonaut: Blargonat, eJawa

No Detain: Palmer_v1

Added eJawa's vote

 

[Zatoth]

@MattyG: Can you comment on the "Jester situation"? Afair crab did tell us that there is no Jester in the game.

Depending on MattyG's response I am leaning towards Blargonaut.

Should he indeed be a Jester, it will at least be over soon.

 

[Zatoth]

4. No detain. I haven't actually been swayed into thinking we HAVE to lynch Day 1. It certainly feels like I'll be outnumbered though.

Do you really think that we have more useful information on the 2nd day?

Some players will have learned something. Sure. But whatever they learn during the night will probably have no influence on our vote. So we would just waste one day by doing nothing.

 

[CzarTim]

Guys a thought just occurred to me: what if Blarg has a role that REQUIRES him to post the way he does? I once read of a game where a guy had to write all his posts in a specific format because he drew the role of William Shakespeare. Maybe Blarg drew something similar?

What theme though? This post seems normal to me:

Also, if I was truly as disruptive as you and Palmer say, the other survivors would've said so by now.



Oh, but NO, this gang likes me.

If the rest of the crew find me annoying, by all means, pipe up; or else *this* torpedo will continue cruising.

He's clearly capable of contributing. Instead he chooses to post creepy images implying can't get blood off of him.

 

[eJawa]

@MattyG: Can you comment on the "Jester situation"? Afair crab did tell us that there is no Jester in the game.

Depending on MattyG's response I am leaning towards Blargonaut.

Should he indeed be a Jester, it will at least be over soon.

I would hope if he is a Jester, it is the version that doesn't end the game.

 

[CzarTim]

Added eJawa's vote

Exmachina64 unvoted.

 

[Deleted member 231381]

Just bear in mind rule 27, people - it is the most important one. We're all friends here, even if we're trying to kill each other. Keep things constructive, not personal.

 

[Rymuth]

For now I'm sticking with Rymuth though. His posts have been wishy washy, and when called out on it, he continued to be wishy washy.

My stance has been quite clear. I'm suspecting Worthy. Matt Attack is in a similar boat and offered no suspicions of his own yet and you did not even acknowledge him.

so either:

a) You're using strong-arm tactics to bully me into voting against you to look like I'm being defensive
or
b) You have it in for me so you're coloring every post through the lens of your own agenda

But just in case I forget to write this down later -

VOTE: TheWorthyEdge

Reason: If CzarTim and Worthy are in cahoots, the former might try to lessen the votes against the latter. A singular vote against Tim won't be effective, so I'm going with my gut instinct and voting for Worthy.

If the rest of the crew find me annoying, by all means, pipe up; or else *this* torpedo will continue cruising.

For what it's worth, I don't find you disruptive.

 

[Blargonaut]

HAHAHHAHAAHHHA

Discussion derailment? That's what you're going to sacrifice me for?

Should I perfume a boardroom and grab you all refreshments for you to have your conversations, "officers"? Maybe some coasters under your beverages too?

This is an barren desert for miles. TALK ANYWHERE YOU WANT, HOWEVER YOU WANT.


I won't apologize for my wit. You all seriously need to reconsider your moral values if you're going to kill a man for cracking jokes.

 

[Blargonaut]

This is an barren desert for miles.

*a

Grammar is important.

 

[Palmer_v1]

Exmachina64 unvoted.

I think you're reading it wrong. The name on the left is who is being voted against. ExMachina64 has a vote against him from TB.

@Traube

This is what I posted before about the no detain:

My only problem with that argument is that a D1 Detain means if that person had a power role that could have helped, they'll never get a chance to use it. Let's say we accidentally lynch a Cop. They could role claim it today, but would have 0 information to corroborate. We back down, they just get mafia killed anyway. If we don't back down, we kill our cop for no gain. If this all happens D2 instead, they have a chance to tell us what info they've gathered, and we can decide from there what to do.

Nothing has changed my mind about this. We risk exposing a power role before they've had a chance to do anything useful. If we wait instead, that person may have quantifiable information to back up his role claim on Day 2.

 

[Terrabyte20xx]

HAHAHHAHAAHHHA

Discussion derailment? That's what you're going to sacrifice me for?

Should I perfume a boardroom and grab you all refreshments for you to have your conversations, "officers"? Maybe some coasters under your beverages too?

This is an barren desert for miles. TALK ANYWHERE YOU WANT, HOWEVER YOU WANT.


I won't apologize for my wit. You all seriously need to reconsider your moral values if you're going to kill a man for cracking jokes.

If we actually do detain you I will sleep like a rock, because it wouldn't be because of your jokes, it would be because you post a ton, and none of it has a single thing to do with either finding scum, or searching for allies.

 

[CzarTim]

I think you're reading it wrong. The name on the left is who is being voted against. ExMachina64 has a vote against him from TB.

Oops, sorry!

 

[OceanicAir]

I doubt that Blargonaut is a jester. I think he's just having fun, even if some people don't really find it funny. I would be more annoyed if it was done in the middle of a serious discussion but nothing really has come up since Terrabyte's plan and its fallout. I don't want to vote No Detain especially since there are 2 days left but I hope that something else will come out in the mean time.

If I had to guess I would imagine that someone in the double digit posts is Mafia to get us off the scent but I haven't seen anything remarkably scummy in any off the posts.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

While the blarg posting is entertaining, I'm surprised he hasn't gone even more into his character...

Now it looks like we have a three way tie for detaining first day, the worthy edge, swamped, and blarg.

Swamped hasn't posted in a few days, and the worthyedge has been defending the shit out of himself. Blarg is comical, rymuth has upped his posting (and reminds me that I need to post more), exmachina has largely thrown any suspicion off, and we have a no detain vote.

My gut says worthy is a good addition to the game, even if we have to kill him eventually. Would be a shame to kill our top poster day 1 and have him turn out rebel (it may even be eerily familiar...)

 

[Terrabyte20xx]

I doubt that Blargonaut is a jester. I think he's just having fun, even if some people don't really find it funny. I would be more annoyed if it was done in the middle of a serious discussion but nothing really has come up since Terrabyte's plan and its fallout. I don't want to vote No Detain especially since there are 2 days left but I hope that something else will come out in the mean time.

If I had to guess I would imagine that someone in the double digit posts is Mafia to get us off the scent but I haven't seen anything remarkably scummy in any off the posts.

I feel that his posts are part of the reason why any serious discussion hasn't happened since then. They were funny at first, but he has kept them going and by doing so half of us keep talking about him rather than the game. If he doesn't stop by the end of Day 2, I will seriously policy detain him.

 

[Swamped]

Aw, I think you're alright Blarg.

I think it may be a good idea to detain on the first day. So tomorrow we would only have 22 players and we would be able to perhaps pinpoint allegiances better. Question is who to detain? I'm against detaining someone just because they have a low post count or whatever. Mostly because that seems to be the reason people are targeting me...

I understand the argument against no detainment - that we don't want to expose power roles before they've had a chance to do their thing. But there are likely to only be a few power roles useful to the rebels. The chances that we get one of them are pretty low I think.

I don't want to vote yet as we still have some time until the day ends, but there are some suspicious people on my radar...more later as I have to run to lab!

Spoiler

There are labs on Tatooine?!?!?

 

[Palmer_v1]

Just bear in mind rule 27, people - it is the most important one. We're all friends here, even if we're trying to kill each other. Keep things constructive, not personal.

New avatar, I see.

 

[Swamped]

Then again, Blarg is making himself a pretty easy target...I keep vacillating on how I feel about his actions...

 

[Zatoth]

@Traube

This is what I posted before about the no detain:



Nothing has changed my mind about this. We risk exposing a power role before they've had a chance to do anything useful. If we wait instead, that person may have quantifiable information to back up his role claim on Day 2.

I see.

But thinking of the last game. After Ultron role claimed he still survived a lot of nights. His role was dangerous for the Mafia. But attacking him was also a big risk. Same goes for Karkador.

Even if you can't share any information, getting your role in the open does not have to be an disadvantage.

Don't get me wrong. I don't think anyone should role claim now, unless he has to.

We also have to keep in mind that you can lie about your power.

 

[CzarTim]

My stance has been quite clear. I'm suspecting Worthy. Matt Attack is in a similar boat and offered no suspicions of his own yet and you did not even acknowledge him.

so either:

a) You're using strong-arm tactics to bully me into voting against you to look like I'm being defensive
or
b) You have it in for me so you're coloring every post through the lens of your own agenda

But just in case I forget to write this down later -

VOTE: TheWorthyEdge

Reason: If CzarTim and Worthy are in cahoots, the former might try to lessen the votes against the latter. A singular vote against Tim won't be effective, so I'm going with my gut instinct and voting for Worthy.

Ok, thank you for responding. I just read through your posts and Matt Attack's posts and I don't think they are comparable. Matt has a very clear throughline. His posts include very definitive statements that don't strike me as suspicious. He may not have a suspect, but he made it clear why. Meanwhile reading your posts before this one and each one feels as though you are hedging everything you say with a qualifier. You thought TB was suspicious -- but maybe not. You thought worthy was suspicious -- but maybe not. Looking at the intent behind your posts, I was struggling to determine where you actually stood. This is what mafia does a lot: they don't make definitive statements and follow other player's cases so it can't be traced back to them. It's easy to fly under the radar when you haven't put anything on the line.

Looking at this post though, I have to ask why you think I'd want you to vote for me? Why would I want that? You claim Worthy and I are in cahoots, but I was the first person to vote Worthy. Why throw a comrade under the bus this early before anyone else posted their suspicion of him?

I'll be perfectly honest, your defense isn't winning me over the way Worthy's did. It is not my intention to bully you, but I still think you are acting suspiciously.

 

[CzarTim]

Swamped hasn't posted in a few days, and the worthyedge has been defending the shit out of himself. Blarg is comical, rymuth has upped his posting (and reminds me that I need to post more), exmachina has largely thrown any suspicion off, and we have a no detain vote.

Where is this even coming from? She has posted a couple of times each page. Certainly more than others. LoC said she was voted for randomly, but traube started the vote and has said no such thing. It's super weird to me that swamped is even in the running right now. The votes on her feel pointless.

 

[Setre]

I’m still undecided on if we should detain someone Day 1. If we do and it’s a fellow Rebel not only will that person be gone but during the Night someone will be killed by the Imperial Agents leaving us with two gone. I suppose we could get lucky and vote a Hutt out but our chances aren’t very good if we try that. As Palmer said what if we detain someone who could eventually help us?

 

[Lord of Castamere]

Where is this even coming from? She has posted a couple of times each page. Certainly more than others. LoC said she was voted for randomly, but traube started the vote and has said no such thing. It's super weird to me that swamped is even in the running right now. The votes on her feel pointless.

You still don't sem to understand the point of Day 1 voting . No vote here has a point past initiating conversation.

If there is a Hutt with a vote right now it certainly wasn't a skill based choice. We're all throwing shit at the wall yes, but that is the point.

 

[Rymuth]

I'll be perfectly honest, your defense isn't winning me over the way Worthy's did. It is not my intention to bully you, but I still think you are acting suspiciously.

That's fine but as I said, Worthy was closer than the rest of us to being detained (before Blarg acted out and now the balance shifted) so, my line of logic is this - Right now, no one's suspecting you so you can take a hit from me for Worthy's sake (if you are in cahoots) with the added bonus that I end up looking rather guilty which may result in people unvoting for Worthy and voting against me.

 

[CzarTim]

You still don't sem to understand the point of Day 1 voting . No vote here has a point past initiating conversation.

If there is a Hutt with a vote right now it certainly wasn't a skill based choice. We're all throwing shit at the wall yes, but that is the point.

Of course we are throwing shit at the wall, I'm under no delusion that we'll probably be wrong today. My point is that Zipp misrepresented Swamped by saying "she hasn't posted in a few days" when her last post was less than 12 hours before his. My point is that you claimed the vote on her was random, when traube (who first voted her) made no such claim. I'd like to hear why he chose her. And finally I feel like since that initial vote we've had several better candidates pop up.

So since your vote is still on Swamped, let me ask: What do you think we will gain from detaining her if the vote really is random?

 

[AbsolutBro]

If there is a Hutt with a vote right now it certainly wasn't a skill based choice. We're all throwing shit at the wall yes, but that is the point.

That may be true, but I still find it odd that people are piling on what was supposed to be random. You and traube both voted for the same person with "it's random", but then why vote for the same person? Extra pressure? I mean, at one point swamped was u to three votes (you, traube and TWE). TWE has rescinded, but AFAIK swamped still has a plurality because you and traube "randomly" both chose her?

I don't buy it.

 

[johnnyquicknives]

On the front runners:

I posted about Blarg yesterday and ended up gaving him the benefit of the doubt since not everyone had posted and he specifically said he was waiting. Everyone has posted now, but he still avoids contributing. I'm all for adding flavour and jokes to posts but feel that they should be alongside real discussion and not in place of it.
Acting like such an obvious target seems like it would be a bad move for a mobster ,but acting like that for a day or two (real life, not mafia), to make people think a mobster would never do that then cleaning up your act before final votes could be an interesting way to try and build trust.
I do think that it would be much more stupid to paint yourself as such a target if you have a power (or neutral) role. If I was to guess he's just an ordinary Rebel trying to spice up the game, with an outside chance that he's a mobster taking a "theres no way a mobster would be this crazy" approach.

I still go back and forth on worthy Worthy but at this point I would rather have him in the game for at least another day.

Swamped I have no feelings about whatsoever, so I'll be interested to read her thoughts later on. I kind of feel she is suffering at this point because her name was thrown out early and I don't see much real merit behind it at this point.


For other players:

I posted yesterday that I didn't like exmachinas posts. He kind of clarified it by leaning on the novice card and explaining that he didn't realise the time frames involved. I still don't think he has really contributed much, but his posts remind me of how I felt at the start of the last game.

Quantum said he planned to wait until today then vote for someone who hadn't posted. Since everyones posted, I would hope to hear some more from him today. For now though I'm not suspicious of the low post count, the game has only been on for 48hours.
Redhood said similar about waiting until today. His postcount is higher, but mostly because its bolstered by posts from before we started, theres been very little activity since the game started.


So basically after throwing some thoughts down I'm not much further forward. If I was voting right now it would be for Blarg, although seeing we're only halfway through the first day theres definitely players I'm waiting to hear more from.

 

[Zatoth]

That may be true, but I still find it odd that people are piling on what was supposed to be random. You and traube both voted for the same person with "it's random", but then why vote for the same person? Extra pressure? I mean, at one point swamped was u to three votes (you, traube and TWE). TWE has rescinded, but AFAIK swamped still has a plurality because you and traube "randomly" both chose her?

I don't buy it.

I just want to point out, that I never said that my vote was random. Only Lord did.

 

[Lord of Castamere]

That may be true, but I still find it odd that people are piling on what was supposed to be random. You and traube both voted for the same person with "it's random", but then why vote for the same person? Extra pressure? I mean, at one point swamped was u to three votes (you, traube and TWE). TWE has rescinded, but AFAIK swamped still has a plurality because you and traube "randomly" both chose her?

I don't buy it.

I didn't randomly choose anyone. I followed Traube. The reasoning for that is he was Mafia last game. The odds of getting Mafia twice are so slim that hes the only person I kinda trust at this juncture.

Without real threat you're not going to get real reactions. At this this point in my eyes a random vote has equal weight to a weighted vote. What's the point of having 23 individual votes?

 

[AbsolutBro]

I just want to point out, that I never said that my vote was random. Only Lord did.

Sorry yes, I should have made that clear. Have you said why you voted and I just missed it? Thread moved pretty fast while I was out working.

 

[CzarTim]

That's fine but as I said, Worthy was closer than the rest of us to being detained (before Blarg acted out and now the balance shifted) so, my line of logic is this - Right now, no one's suspecting you so you can take a hit from me for Worthy's sake (if you are in cahoots) with the added bonus that I end up looking rather guilty which may result in people unvoting for Worthy and voting against me.

So I start a vote on Worthy, which two others jumped on (with one almost immediately rescinded,) I then decided to unvote and vote you before you even claimed to be suspicious of Worthy. All with the hope that you would vote me instead of worthy which for some reason would lead to everyone voting you over worthy who had one vote against him?

Rymuth, thank you for posting your line of thought, I appreciate it. I just don't really follow the logic. If you are a Rebel, I apologize for going after you. But I'm not sure what to make of this yet.

I just want to point out, that I never said that my vote was random. Only Lord did.

This is what I was getting at. Mind explaining your thought process, or were you just TBing?

 

[AbsolutBro]

I didn't randomly choose anyone. I followed Traube. The reasoning for that is he was Mafia last game.

So you just assumed traube voted randomly then?

Sorry, I find the first double vote to be the most suspicious, since it maintains the most feeling of piling on and trying to pick a direction for the group to hopefully follow. Hutts leading us around by our noses is a good way to start the game.

 

[Lord of Castamere]

So you just assumed traube voted randomly then?

Sorry, I find the first double vote to be the most suspicious, since it maintains the most feeling of piling on and trying to pick a direction for the group to hopefully follow. Hutts leading us around by our noses is a good way to start the game.

Yes, because the reaon honestly didn't matter. Fun fact: This day will most likely end in no detain. It shouldn't, but it will. I was trying to get reactions from people and it worked. I never excepted swamped to get detained and that's fine.

 

[Blargonaut]

If we actually do detain you I will sleep like a rock, because it wouldn't be because of your jokes, it would be because you post a ton, and none of it has a single thing to do with either finding scum, or searching for allies.

I feel that his posts are part of the reason why any serious discussion hasn't happened since then. They were funny at first, but he has kept them going and by doing so half of us keep talking about him rather than the game. If he doesn't stop by the end of Day 2, I will seriously policy detain him.

Well well aren't I quite the conversation piece

Unwrap me and set me on your coffee table, Terra

Terra, you've changed, man

You've changed

For what it's worth, I don't find you disruptive.

Thank you, Rymuth.

While the blarg posting is entertaining, I'm surprised he hasn't gone even more into his character...

Now it looks like we have a three way tie for detaining first day, the worthy edge, swamped, and blarg.

Swamped hasn't posted in a few days, and the worthyedge has been defending the shit out of himself. Blarg is comical, rymuth has upped his posting (and reminds me that I need to post more), exmachina has largely thrown any suspicion off, and we have a no detain vote.

My gut says worthy is a good addition to the game, even if we have to kill him eventually. Would be a shame to kill our top poster day 1 and have him turn out rebel (it may even be eerily familiar...)

What's that supposed to mean?

Aw, I think you're alright Blarg.

I think it may be a good idea to detain on the first day. So tomorrow we would only have 22 players and we would be able to perhaps pinpoint allegiances better. Question is who to detain? I'm against detaining someone just because they have a low post count or whatever. Mostly because that seems to be the reason people are targeting me...

I understand the argument against no detainment - that we don't want to expose power roles before they've had a chance to do their thing. But there are likely to only be a few power roles useful to the rebels. The chances that we get one of them are pretty low I think.

I don't want to vote yet as we still have some time until the day ends, but there are some suspicious people on my radar...more later as I have to run to lab!

Spoiler

There are labs on Tatooine?!?!?

Thank y-

Then again, Blarg is making himself a pretty easy target...I keep vacillating on how I feel about his actions...

-ou?

On the front runners:

I posted about Blarg yesterday and ended up gaving him the benefit of the doubt since not everyone had posted and he specifically said he was waiting. Everyone has posted now, but he still avoids contributing. I'm all for adding flavour and jokes to posts but feel that they should be alongside real discussion and not in place of it.
Acting like such an obvious target seems like it would be a bad move for a mobster ,but acting like that for a day or two (real life, not mafia), to make people think a mobster would never do that then cleaning up your act before final votes could be an interesting way to try and build trust.
I do think that it would be much more stupid to paint yourself as such a target if you have a power (or neutral) role. If I was to guess he's just an ordinary Rebel trying to spice up the game, with an outside chance that he's a mobster taking a "theres no way a mobster would be this crazy" approach.

*cut*

So basically after throwing some thoughts down I'm not much further forward. If I was voting right now it would be for Blarg, although seeing we're only halfway through the first day theres definitely players I'm waiting to hear more from.

Define "contributing".

Anyhoo, this coffee table is comfy.

I like the spotlight. Will it get me killed? Oooo, such hubris.

I'd miss me.

 

[Makai]

I like Blargonaut.

 

[AbsolutBro]

Yes, because the reaon honestly didn't matter. Fun fact: This day will most likely end in no detain. It shouldn't, but it will. I was trying to get reactions from people and it worked. I never excepted swamped to get detained and that's fine.

All fair enough I suppose. I'm not sure I agree we will end in no detain though. Seems only Palmer is really set on the idea.

FWIW, I agree we should detain. We went no-lynch in the first game and I'm not really sure it gained us anything. I guess I'm just sure not sure whom it should be.

 

[Zatoth]

This is what I was getting at. Mind explaining your thought process, or were you just TBing?

Not at the moment. I am still waiting for MattyG to answer a question and confirm something for me.

 

[CzarTim]

Yes, because the reaon honestly didn't matter. Fun fact: This day will most likely end in no detain. It shouldn't, but it will. I was trying to get reactions from people and it worked. I never excepted swamped to get detained and that's fine.

I actually think we will get a detain. More people seem open to it this game. If you were looking reactions, that's fine. I still think swamped is a bad choice right now.

I didn't randomly choose anyone. I followed Traube. The reasoning for that is he was Mafia last game. The odds of getting Mafia twice are so slim that hes the only person I kinda trust at this juncture.

Without real threat you're not going to get real reactions. At this this point in my eyes a random vote has equal weight to a weighted vote. What's the point of having 23 individual votes?

For what it's worth, I don't really suspect your or traube right now, but this is a terrible reason to clear someone. Assuming the same number of mafia, there is an equal chance for him to be scum each game.

I also disagree that a random vote is equal to a weighted vote. A random vote gains us no information and potentially loses us a rebel. A weighted vote where people explain their votes gives us a baseline to work with in the future at the potential sacrifice of a rebel.

I'd rather no detain than random detain, and I'd rather not no detain.

 

[Lord of Castamere]

FWIW, I agree we should detain. We went no-lynch in the first game and I'm not really sure it gained us anything. I guess I'm just sure not sure whom it should be.

We'll see. When Monday comes, I'm expecting the "no detains" to roll in quickly.

 

[Zatoth]

Thanks for trusting me, Lord. But I can't trust you. Sorry. You were just so good at being Mafia last game. That's why you will always be highly suspicious.

They only person I will not detain today is Barry. Taking him out on the first day again would be just too cruel.