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[Morrigan Stark]

- The ring that dont let lose your soul. It make PVP encounter during your adventure less scary

That's really got nothing to do with PvP though...

- Arena. I prefer that PVP should be during your adventure and not in a specific place.

That's a silly point, it doesn't replace questing PvP, it's just an addition. There was an arena in Dark Souls too, remember? Oh wait nobody does remember it because it was absolute dogshit. xD At least the blood bro arena was competently done.
I agree with your two other points but these are really weak arguments.

If you care about "built-variety", maybe.

Why the air quotes? That's a legitimate argument to make.

Considering that everything that's not melee-combat is a shitshow in Souls, I'm not very convinced this matters a whole lot though.

And that really isn't. "shitshow", WTF are you on about. I prefer melee but magic is fun too and plenty of magic-oriented builds are not only viable, but plenty powerful.

 

[SgtCobra]

I've never played a Souls game but I love Bloodborne.

How excited should I be?

I think you should be excited, Bloodborne and the Souls games, while being similar to each other, have different playstyles and mechanics. People wanted Bloodborne to be like a Dark Souls game with another setting which it simply wasn't, it will take some time for them to deal with that.

 

[usp84]

In almost every way, yes.

Bloodborne is a great game, with an amazing atmosphere, lore and art direction, but also a simplified and more streamlined experience compared to the Souls games.

That doesnt make any souls game better than bloodborne in "every way".simple exaggeration with no explanation.

 

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And that really isn't. "shitshow", WTF are you on about. I prefer melee but magic is fun too and plenty of magic-oriented builds are not only viable, but plenty powerful.

I know they are plenty powerful and viable, I just think they are complete garbage in terms of gameplay. Keep your distance from the enemy and press a button to fire auto-aimed stuff. That's like doing your best to not learn anything about enemy patterns.

 

[Laughing Banana]

I think they fixed that problem now. Play the game, it's really good! .

I played Demon's Souls for only 20 minutes or so. Same with Dark Souls. Dark Souls 2 I never played really far beyond when the PC reaches Majula.

But as I am sure you know already, hahaha, I am incredibly in love with Bloodborne.

So *hopefully* the combat in this game will be like Bloodborne, if not its mechanics than at least its pacing. Or that the game allows for players that prefers fast-paced combat.

My PS3 is still available so I am even thinking of probably get Demon's Souls and Dark Souls to play them properly.... well, I heard many horrible stuff about Dark Souls PS3 version though like it's the most botched one technically so maybe, hahaha.

As for Scholars of First Sin, I am warming up to the idea of buying it really but for some reason I am still hesitant of pulling the trigger, hahaha..

 

[Jwebster24]

I think you should be excited, Bloodborne and the Souls games, while being similar to each other, have different playstyles and mechanics. People wanted Bloodborne to be like a Dark Souls game with another setting which it simply wasn't, it will take some time for them to deal with that.

People have said that the combat in Souls games is slower, I really enjoy the combat in Bloodborne so the thought of it being slower worries me a little.

 

[NEO0MJ]

That doesnt make any souls game better than bloodborne in "every way".simple exaggeration with no explanation.

Sorry for that comment, gues I made it too much of a bait. Anyway when it comes to what I like most about Souls over Bloodborne, it's the variety in everything. Weapons, armors, ,builds, approaches, locations, just so much. It also lacked padding such as the Chalice Dungeons, which were such a terrible idea and I hope they never return.

My PS3 is still available so I am even thinking of probably get Demon's Souls and Dark Souls to play them properly.... well, I heard many horrible stuff about Dark Souls PS3 version though like it's the most botched one technically so maybe, hahaha.

As for Scholars of First Sin, I am warming up to the idea of buying it really but for some reason I am still hesitant of pulling the trigger, hahaha.

Dark Souls is the best in my opinion. The PS3 port isn't that bad, certainly not unplayable. If you have a decent PC you can play the PC version. You don't need anything super to handle it.

People have said that the combat in Souls games is slower, I really enjoy the combat in Bloodborne so the thought of it being slower worries me a little.

It's not significantly slower, though you'll have to approach it differently. You'll have to go with lighter armor and weapons if you want to play fast, though.

 

[Ferr986]

I know they are plenty powerful and viable, I just think they are complete garbage in terms of gameplay. Keep your distance from the enemy and press a button to fire auto-aimed stuff. That's like doing your best to not learn anything about enemy patterns.

But you can mix them and make a DEX/FTH build for example. That were the most fun builds IMO.

 

[DonMigs85]

 

[GorillaJu]

People have a bad habit of treating two extremely good things as if it has to be zero-sum. If I like one, then the other must be SHIT.

Yes, DS1 had more variety to builds, and just more variety to the world in general. But in exchange for that, BB has incredible combat with depth and variety in how you fight. BB had a unique mindfuck of a plotline that crosses boundaries few games are willing to, and does it elegantly, yet I can't deny the atmosphere of DS1 has that alluring, dream-like mystique which BB lacks.

I'm glad to have had the chance to sink hundreds of hours into both games. Can barely decide which one I like better and that probably changes on my mood. NOTHING in either game would I ever consider a 'shitshow' or anything like that.

 

[Jwebster24]

Sorry for that comment, gues I made it too much of a bait. Anyway when it comes to what I like most about Souls over Bloodborne, it's the variety in everything. Weapons, armors, ,builds, approaches, locations, just so much. It also lacked padding such as the Chalice Dungeons, which were such a terrible idea and I hope they never return.



Dark Souls is the best in my opinion. The PS3 port isn't that bad, certainly not unplayable. If you have a decent PC you can play the PC version. You don't need anything super to handle it.



It's not significantly slower, though you'll have to approach it differently. You'll have to go with lighter armor and weapons if you want to play fast, though.

Great thanks!

 

[Shredderi]

Lol

 

[Tesseract]

lawd

 

[Seanspeed]

I've never played a Souls game but I love Bloodborne.

How excited should I be?

If you like RPG's and you like Bloodborne, you'll more than likely like Souls games.

 

[Ayt]

Even watching this gif I can hear her howl.

 

[Sami+]

People have a bad habit of treating two extremely good things as if it has to be zero-sum. If I like one, then the other must be SHIT.

Yes, DS1 had more variety to builds, and just more variety to the world in general. But in exchange for that, BB has incredible combat with depth and variety in how you fight. BB had a unique mindfuck of a plotline that crosses boundaries few games are willing to, and does it elegantly, yet I can't deny the atmosphere of DS1 has that alluring, dream-like mystique which BB lacks.

I'm glad to have had the chance to sink hundreds of hours into both games. Can barely decide which one I like better and that probably changes on my mood. NOTHING in either game would I ever consider a 'shitshow' or anything like that.

Yeah I don't really get this - the only Souls game that's shit is DkS2.

I love love love the shit out of Bloodborne, it's my favorite game, but all of Miyazaki's games are pretty close tbh. For me it's BB > DeS >> DkS >>> most other games, with the gap between BB and DeS being very very small and the gap between DeS and DkS being noticeable but not huge.

I was actually disappointed by DkS when I played it at launch but I love it now almost as much. The only things I know for sure I don't like are the slower combat (even compared to the snappier DeS) and magic.

 

[Seanspeed]

Yeah I don't really get this - the only Souls game that's shit is DkS2.

You're doing exactly what he's talking about. DS2 is not shit.

 

[fantomena]

You're doing exactly what he's talking about. DS2 is not shit.

Dark Souls 2 is not shit, but it's mediocre compared to the other games, especially when it comes to how the world feels so disconnected and the bosses are just complete forgettable.

 

[DoubleTake]

People have a bad habit of treating two extremely good things as if it has to be zero-sum. If I like one, then the other must be SHIT.

Yes, DS1 had more variety to builds, and just more variety to the world in general. But in exchange for that, BB has incredible combat with depth and variety in how you fight. BB had a unique mindfuck of a plotline that crosses boundaries few games are willing to, and does it elegantly, yet I can't deny the atmosphere of DS1 has that alluring, dream-like mystique which BB lacks.

I'm glad to have had the chance to sink hundreds of hours into both games. Can barely decide which one I like better and that probably changes on my mood. NOTHING in either game would I ever consider a 'shitshow' or anything like that.

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Yeah I don't really get this - the only Souls game that's shit is DkS2.

I love love love the shit out of Bloodborne, it's my favorite game, but all of Miyazaki's games are pretty close tbh. For me it's BB > DeS >> DkS >>> most other games, with the gap between BB and DeS being very very small and the gap between DeS and DkS being noticeable but not huge.

I was actually disappointed by DkS when I played it at launch but I love it now almost as much. The only things I know for sure I don't like are the slower combat (even compared to the snappier DeS) and magic.

And come on. Ds2 isnt near as good as the others but by no means would I call it shit. Shit decisions throughout? Yes. Shitshow on the whole? Not even close.

 

[Servbot24]

Yeah I don't really get this - the only Souls game that's shit is DkS2.

Oh, please.

 

[Aurongel]

Beware of Giant Beast ahead, therefore, remember nightmares.

 

[Camwi]

Man, I'm glad I'm not one of the people who hates Dark Souls 2. I fucking loved it as much as the other two Souls games. Can't wait for 3!

 

[Durante]

Oh, please.

Just give it up. People want to troll, let them.

Man, I'm glad I'm not one of the people who hates Dark Souls 2. I fucking loved it as much as the other two Souls games. Can't wait for 3!

It's really relaxing, isn't it? You have people concerned whether it will be like DS1, or like DS2, or exactly how many hours some guy will send working on it, but you can just not give a shit.

 

[Shmeagatory94]

Man, I'm glad I'm not one of the people who hates Dark Souls 2. I fucking loved it as much as the other two Souls games. Can't wait for 3!

Me too! Dark Souls 2 is actually my favorite lol lets see if Dark Souls 3 changes that.

 

[F0rneus]

Dark Souls 2 is not shit, but it's mediocre compared to the other games, especially when it comes to how the world feels so disconnected and the bosses are just complete forgettable.

It's still a better game than 99.9% of games released in the past two years.

 

[Sticky&Sweet]

Hahaha, that's good.

 

[Lux R7]

Eventually, i think Team B can learn from his mistakes.
In fact, for example, i honeslty think that the lore around Eleum Loyce is, alone, better than the lore of the entire base game.

 

[Gbraga]

People have a bad habit of treating two extremely good things as if it has to be zero-sum. If I like one, then the other must be SHIT.

Yes, DS1 had more variety to builds, and just more variety to the world in general. But in exchange for that, BB has incredible combat with depth and variety in how you fight. BB had a unique mindfuck of a plotline that crosses boundaries few games are willing to, and does it elegantly, yet I can't deny the atmosphere of DS1 has that alluring, dream-like mystique which BB lacks.

I'm glad to have had the chance to sink hundreds of hours into both games. Can barely decide which one I like better and that probably changes on my mood. NOTHING in either game would I ever consider a 'shitshow' or anything like that.

Word.

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Eventually, i think Team B can learn from his mistakes.
In fact, for example, i honeslty think that the lore around Eleum Loyce is, alone, better than the lore of the entire base game.

Yeah, the DLCs are what make me not worried about Dark Souls III, and they probably improved since then.

I'm especially fond of Crown of the Sunken King.

Though I gotta say, I hope they don't think some of the changes they made in Scholar of the First Sin should be the norm in Dark Souls III. >_>

If there's a C Team, it's the Scholar of the First Sin team.

 

[JimPanzer]

Eventually, i think Team B can learn from his mistakes.
In fact, for example, i honeslty think that the lore around Eleum Loyce is, alone, better than the lore of the entire base game.

isn't the DLC considered some of the best content of the whole series?

 

[martino]

Shame bloodborne is exclusive....it give it too much good point for some...
But in the end BB replayability is shit compare to all DS games because it is too much focused to be played like a H&S at the cost of variation and huge difference in the build you can make and how you play using them.

 

[Sheroking]

Officially fatigued.

Slow your roll, From.

 

[params7]

Thank God the rumor was not fake. Early 2016 is still far away. Gonna play through DS, DS2 and Bloodborne once more.

 

[Lux R7]

isn't the DLC considered some of the best content of the whole series?

yeah it is.
To me, the third is the best one. But my opinion is based mostly on the lore, that is what kindles my interest.

 

[GorillaJu]

Shame bloodborne is exclusive....it give it too much good point for some...
But in the end BB replayability is shit compare to all DS games because it is too much focused to be played like a H&S at the cost of variation and huge difference in the build you can make and how you play using them.

I might be alone here but when a game is extremely fun to play, I'm not really bothered by lack of build variety and different paths to take. I've played BB through three different characters, all with the exact same builds. But yeah, I might be alone there. :lol

Edit: I have gone through like 14 different save files, I just mean that of those, at least 3 of them are the exact same SKL/ARC Electric Threaded Cane build.

 

[Shmeagatory94]

Eventually, i think Team B can learn from his mistakes.
In fact, for example, i honeslty think that the lore around Eleum Loyce is, alone, better than the lore of the entire base game.

I think I remember reading that Team B ran into some kinda problem and had to scrap alot of the game, thats why the world of Dark Souls 2 felt so disconnected.

For the DLC though they ran into no problems and havent many souls fans stated the DLC for Dark Souls 2 is some of the best they have seen? So if Team B is working on Dark Souls 3 Im sure it will be an amazing game! I mean I had almost no problems with Dark Souls 2 but this is for those that didnt like it as much.

 

[Lanrutcon]

If you consider DS2 to be a shit game, then your standards are tremendously fucked and you must spend the majority of your time disappointed by games.

 

[Zakalwe]

I hope this will be the first Souls game that pulls me in. I never understood the appeal of the tedious trial and error style gameplay, dying over and over and inching forward just isn't appealing to me.

What I do really like is that the systems always feel fair, deaths almost always feel on the player not the game, but learning the game means you will die often, and the repetition and trial and error just make me lose interest.

But I love the design, the atmosphere, the /feel/ of the combat. Bloodborne almost had me, but it the load times and low frame rates just killed my enjoyment.

If this gets a PC release I'll definitely give it a go. I feel like I'm missing out on something special.

 

[Lux R7]

If you consider DS2 to be a shit game, then your standards are tremendously fucked and you must spend the majority of your time disappointed by games.

this is absolutely true.

 

[martino]

I might be alone here but when a game is extremely fun to play, I'm not really bothered by lack of build variety and different paths to take. I've played BB through three different characters, all with the exact same builds. But yeah, I might be alone there. :lol

Edit: I have gone through like 14 different save files, I just mean that of those, at least 3 of them are the exact same SKL/ARC Electric Threaded Cane build.

And that it make it a good thing for a RPG ?
I love more the rpg part of action/rpg and i'm not a big fan of the action one.
Can explain why it bother me and not you (which seem to be the opposite, looking for fun and not building characters)

 

[stryke]

FROM really need to find that leak and plug it. 2 games in a row...

 

[usp84]

Can some people really not make a point without calling something "shit"? I mean come on this getting ridiculous, this is "shit" that is "shit" meanwhile we are talking about some of the best games of the past decade

 

[Fancy Clown]

Officially fatigued.

Slow your roll, From.

The games will be there waiting for you when you're no longer fatigued. Pretty great, huh?

 

[Sheroking]

The games will be there waiting for you when you're no longer fatigued. Pretty great, huh?

Assuming I'll ever come back or the games maintain their quality on this schedule.

This is getting to Assassin's Creed level.

 

[Gbraga]

I might be alone here but when a game is extremely fun to play, I'm not really bothered by lack of build variety and different paths to take. I've played BB through three different characters, all with the exact same builds. But yeah, I might be alone there. :lol

Edit: I have gone through like 14 different save files, I just mean that of those, at least 3 of them are the exact same SKL/ARC Electric Threaded Cane build.

I'm with you. Dark Souls has incredible build variety, but of the 250 (I think?) hours I played it so far, at least 100 of them were speedrunning with the exact same BKH build.

More build variety = better, I'll never argue against that, especially for PVP, but I can't agree with "Bloodborne lacks replay value". No way.

Though, as I said, I'm still only 250 hours into Dark Souls, there are people who played more than a thousand, so they definitely know a bit more about Souls replayability than I do.

 

[DoubleTake]

And that it make it a good thing for a RPG ?
I love more the rpg part of action/rpg and i'm not a big fan of the action one.
Can explain why it bother me and not you (which seem to be the opposite, looking for fun and not building characters)

Yea thats fine its just a matter of preference really. It only becomes a problem when people paint the other in a negative light. As if leaning further one way or another makes these games worse for it, which if BB has proven it really doesnt. They simply traded one aspect of design for a different one.

I enjoy the character building of Souls games as well. You can still do this in BB just not to the level people are accustomed to.

I also greatly enjoy BBs combat mechanics. So much so that I make new builds and try to pvp any chance I get.

 

[Ferr986]

It's really relaxing, isn't it? You have people concerned whether it will be like DS1, or like DS2, or exactly how many hours some guy will send working on it, but you can just not give a shit.

Yeah, sometimes I feel like the only one that doesn't have any kind of worries.

I love DS1. I love DS2. I love BB. I love that FROM keeps pumping Soulish games. I feel incredibly lucky reading this thread.

 

[GorillaJu]

And that it make it a good thing for a RPG ?
I love more the rpg part of action/rpg and i'm not a big fan of the action one.
Can explain why it bother me and not you (which seem to be the opposite, looking for fun and not building characters)

I've never thought of Souls games as being pure RPGs. It is fun to try out different builds, but it's not the primary draw.

 

[Pooya]

I hope they keep the rings from DS2, really liked my options there with four rings and the game was filled with all kind of different effects. It was so fun to try and build yourself for a specific boss you just hit a wall with. DLCs were fantastic for that. Hopefully they don't pull a Bloodborne here with the core game systems. It was perfect in DS2. Levels and enemies should be worked on, and their hit boxes.

 

[Zakalwe]

Can some people really not make a point without calling something "shit"? I mean come on this getting ridiculous, this is "shit" that is "shit" meanwhile we are talking about some of the best games of the past decade

In this thread we learn how ego can make us feel important and powerful by using hyperbole to shit on the things we don't like.

I don't enjoy the souls games, but I've tried each one aside from Demons and it's clear that even if one has to be the worst of the series, the worst of this series is still something special.

The Souls series embodies everything that is great about game design. Originality, clear vision, consistent implementation, refined mechanics, unique art design, etc... calling that "shit" is just telling of your own issues.

 

[Screamapillar]

Early 2016? Fuck?

Like any of us would even have time to play Dark Souls 3 before then? lol.

Game release calendar is loaded up like I haven't seen since 2008.