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Rumor: GFK Market Research Survey about Nintendo NX leaked

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Kimawolf

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Yeah people should relax and read the thread. this is them asking about the rumors people have HEARD about the NX. not what the NX is. I'd imagine though 900p would be the handheld screen res. We did have the "industry leading chips" discussion a few months ago.
 

JoseLopez

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Yes every game is gonna be 900p 60fpsjust like every ps4 game is 1080p 60fps and every pc game is 4K 60 fps. I mean we all know frame rates/resolution aren't different per game and are chosen by the owner of the platform.
 
Honestly guys....The 900P/60 FPS rumor is what sorta makes this more legit,
It's so Nintendo to be like people cant tell the difference between 900P and 4K.
 
Also, this is possibly part of the original screen, we need confirmations though

I only skimmed past that post but unless I missed something, I thought it was just that poster having a giggle.

Regardless, yeah, it's clear that this is probably nothing at this point. Those links and Mulcair's posts wouldn't hurt to have in the OP.
 
Honestly guys....The 900P/60 FPS rumor is what sorta makes this more legit,
It's so Nintendo to be like people cant tell the difference between 900P and 4K.

They LOVE to sell to the Blue Ocean market even after they rejected them after the original Wii fell out of favor
 

213372bu

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Even when it sounds like a 14 year old throwing out this info, people really want to cling onto those baseless and ridiculous NX rumors.

Let it go until you hear something reasonable.
 

EthanC

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I'd gladly trade the 1080p30fps games I currently have on PS4/XB1 for all 900p 60fps titles. That won't happen, but I would.
 
err, I haven't got a clue what was cropped at the bottom of the survey. I just thought it was pertinent to point out that a large piece of information was handily missing...
 

Sakura

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Trophies/achievement part sounds good to me.
900p/60fps doesn't mean all that much to me. There are Wii U games that are 1080p. As long as it has graphics comparable to PS4/XBO then I am fine.
 
Yes. This 1000x. Emily Rogers found more than 200 negative articles written by media before the Wii U release and we all know what the general perception of the system was and is even today. They did NOTHING to shut down those rumors, and they can't afford to do the same mistake this time.

This isn't even a negative rumor, like i said before, it's literally nothing. But there's plenty of people who are already thinking this is fact and the perception of it is largely negative, so they should intervene asap.


Of course, and there's nothing in the survey that hints to fidelity. Guess people are really scared about a number and really need their 1080p/60fps buzzword. Hats off to Sony's marketing department.

if nintendo of america's marketing team track record is anything to go by, i wouldnt expect them to lift a finger
 
I should also point out this is a Market Research survey by GFK - it does not necessarily contain any accurate information regarding NX

The purpose is simply to test the market and customer perceptions / ideas / feedback / opinions

So no, you can not confirm anything from this, even though GFK are legit, this is market research

This. I am actually right now working on a market survey questionnaire for one of our business clients and if they want to test a new/unannounced product we usually have to adapt / forge main attributes of the final product as the competition obviously also tracks such surveys.

So, yes, interesting insights, and the basic idea (flow between mobile and console derivate) sounds comprehensible but especially the mentioned hardware specs are not to be confused with an official announcement / confirmation.
 

Peterc

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This survey looks fake.
Why will nintendo output 900p, while most games run on 1080p?

Never say never, but almost sure it's fake
 

Anth0ny

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if 900p is true, lmmmmmaaaaaaooooooo

dead in the fucking water. keep in mind this is 2016 and ps4 came out in 2013. that shit should read 1080p/60fps, no questions asked. unless they're REALLY pushing the limits, it should be running any third party game they get as well as PS4 if not better.

at least they got achievements. in 2016.
 

AmyS

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This was a much more interesting rumor, true or not.

"One software demo included with the kit crunches so many polygons that it’s currently impossible to run at 60fps using a current-generation Intel (we’re assuming a Core i7 Skylake) CPU and a nearly top-of-the-line graphics card"

http://playeressence.com/nintendo-nx-dev-kits-are-more-powerful-than-current-gen-report/

Yeah, that doesn't really mean much, even assuming it was true, yet it's much more specific than someone saying "900p / 60fps."
 

ZOONAMI

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If Nintendo actually does have anything to do with the questions in this survey, it's actually probably a good thing they put in the bit about 900p.

They might be trying to gauge reaction, which is overwhelmingly negative. So it might be like, will people be alright with an Xbone level gpu?

Nope, I guess we're gonna want to get this up to at least a PS4 level gpu so we can at least reliably target 1080p.
 

Davey Cakes

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Damn it Nintendo, we're reaching critical mass here.

You need to reveal some concrete details about this new system of yours. People are getting antsy.

Timing is just about right. Just go for it. We're sick of rumors but we're dying for info.
 
Regarding that 900p/60fps, a few thoughts:

1. Nintendo has already demonstrated on the Wii U that they can pump out some absolutely gorgeous visuals on that hardware. Mario 3D World, Captain Toad, Xenoblade, Donkey Kong, and to a certain degree W101 are head and shoulders (partially because of art style) above what we got on PS3/360

2. If 60fps is a standard for the majority of games on the Wii U, I'll gladly take the hit to resolution.

3. The cost of the standard box needs to be low. Like, $200 to $250 low. I don't mind them skimping on hardware a bit if it means the box is cheaper.
 

ash_ag

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The potential inclusion of the Sensor Bar is pretty interesting. On one hand, it's good that Wii Remote support will be maintained. On the other hand, with the lack of a bundled Wii Remote, I don't see many developers using it. It's a bit of a shame, because it would cost them very little to just include it at this point.

With VR becoming big, a return to motion controls may be imminent. New ways to use it will be born, and the control style could gain more acceptance by the core audience. Wii had some really intuitive motion control-based games, and I want to see more of that.
 

tengiants

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Yes. This 1000x. Emily Rogers found more than 200 negative articles written by media before the Wii U release and we all know what the general perception of the system was and is even today. They did NOTHING to shut down those rumors, and they can't afford to do the same mistake this time.

This isn't even a negative rumor, like i said before, it's literally nothing. But there's plenty of people who are already thinking this is fact and the perception of it is largely negative, so they should intervene asap.


Of course, and there's nothing in the survey that hints to fidelity. Guess people are really scared about a number and really need their 1080p/60fps buzzword. Hats off to Sony's marketing department.

With Microsoft and Sony having huge media arms with a lot of say power and influence, this behavior can almost be seen as extortion.

Information Age is much crazier than I imagined growing up.
 

TAS

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I'm really hoping Nintendo forgoes backwards compatibility with the NX console. Better to spend every dollar towards making the hardware the best it can be for current gen games. As the PS4 has shown, sales are in no way affected without it.
 

BY2K

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if 900p is true, lmmmmmaaaaaaooooooo

dead in the fucking water. keep in mind this is 2016 and ps4 came out in 2013. that shit should read 1080p/60fps, no questions asked. unless they're REALLY pushing the limits, it should be running any third party game they get as well as PS4 if not better.

at least they got achievements. in 2016.

The PS4 and Xbox One barely have any 1080p games to begin with...
 

The_Lump

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if 900p is true, lmmmmmaaaaaaooooooo

dead in the fucking water. keep in mind this is 2016 and ps4 came out in 2013. that shit should read 1080p/60fps, no questions asked. unless they're REALLY pushing the limits, it should be running any third party game they get as well as PS4 if not better.

at least they got achievements. in 2016.

C'mon, you know full well that no console would realistically have a fixed resolution/fps output. That's absurd.
 

mapet318

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lol @ everyone already writing the console off. This is literally nothing. Wait until Nintendo makes an announcement before you start declaring that the NX is dead.
 

Hasney

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Guys, 900p won't be what the console outputs out at. That's either for the handheld OR a specific game. The resolution/framerate for a game will be up to the developer as it always has been.

No matter if this is legit or not, 900p won't be the bloody limit of the thing.
 
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Gotta be the streaming output or something right? Right?
Exclusive franchises featuring Mario, Zelda and Donkey Kong? MEGATON
Haha.
 

Steejee

Member
I saw a competing leak that said it will output all games at 1400x1050@52fps. Nintendo skipping out on Widescreen all together!

No I didn't. All leaks are fake until proven otherwise.
 

Z3M0G

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The 900p is likely for parity between the "console" and "handheld" sides of it. They are likely aiming for the exact same visual output on both. If it is a single physical device, it is likely the best they could do on the handheld screen, while it would output to a TV using HDMI at 900p.

The NX will likely look much like the WiiU controller without the physical console. It may have a small receiver that it sends picture signal too (like WiiU controller from console, but in reverse), so you don't need to run HDMI directly from the controller...
 
People should read Emily Rogers' tweet, as well as others' posts here: it's a survey from GFK about market research. GFK doesn't necessairly know more than us about NX, it's actually more plausbile they're in the same situation as us. OP should be updated with Emily's tweet and NDP_Muclair's post. Muclair is legit too.

Reading the Twitter posts of "Emily Rogers" who apparently knows what that survey contained, it does seem like they're speculating hypothetical NX features and asking survey participants what their reaction would be if the console had those features.

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Nintendo gets European sales data from GfK to monitor the health of the retail video game industry but their relationship with GfK Group is largely tangential outside of it.

Furthermore, it is my opinion that the NX is already a finished console design-wise that's launching this year. There is no need for Nintendo to conduct any market research, and even if they did, they would handle it in-house.
 
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