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[Destructoid] Leaked photo of NX controller?
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Graphics Horse
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yep. I can't judge the size too well though, any ideas?
xsapeguy2014
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there is no BC compatibility from what Iwata said!
Mysterious
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Why are we so sure that this is real again?
Nah, can't imagine this thing will go on and sell anywhere close to 20m units in Japan. This is the gamepad 2.0.
They need a second screen in the NX console controller in order to maintain parity in terms of control schemes between the different form factors, but at the same time they want to move away from the rectangular tablet form factor.
Err your hands will be covering most of the extra space. :/
pixelpushing on Reddit just made this highlighting some of the buttons
Odd that A & B are switched from the traditional Nintendo positions unless it's to try to hide that it's the NX controller. Obviously other buttons could pop up depending on the game if this is legit. We also don't know what's on the bottom.
I think this would probably be killer for AR if there's a camera with good resolution on the bottom of the controller.
I still don't think this makes logical sense given it's going to be pretty pricey with all the tech in the controller (or handheld). Rosti's really good at digging up patents and stuff but I wouldn't considering him an insider that seals the deal one way or the other.
Odd that A & B are switched from the traditional Nintendo positions unless it's to try to hide that it's the NX controller. Obviously other buttons could pop up depending on the game if this is legit. We also don't know what's on the bottom.
I think this would probably be killer for AR if there's a camera with good resolution on the bottom of the controller.
I still don't think this makes logical sense given it's going to be pretty pricey with all the tech in the controller (or handheld). Rosti's really good at digging up patents and stuff but I wouldn't considering him an insider that seals the deal one way or the other.
wild wild rice
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There are only two stages of Nintendo grief:
1) Why aren't they doing the same thing as Sony/Microsoft?
2) Doomed
Sorcerer
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Non-physical buttons are not the problem for me, I use them all the time on the Steam Controller and it works fine. Problem is putting them on the actual screen and having to hit them with your thumb?
How is that going to work, sounds clumsy as hell. How much screen estate is needed for practical size buttons that need to be hit with a big fat clumsy thumb?
How is that going to work, sounds clumsy as hell. How much screen estate is needed for practical size buttons that need to be hit with a big fat clumsy thumb?
Because there will be buttons there for you to push.
Its not only buttons but you can design a lot of mobile ui elements into games like sliders and zoom functionality while also providing buttons and analog sticks.
Agreed. This is the on-the-go or "someone is using the TV" (because it's the 80's again and households only have one television like in Back To The Future), where you can use the pro controller and a successor to play on your TV.
With a gimmick like this marketed properly, there's nothing else on the market like it. End result will be Nintendo does OK and breaks even, we get another gen of gimmicks. Oof.
Candescence
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This sort of thing was actually discussed in the free-form display patent thread. It's difficult to tell what the hell is going on with the buttons, though, I can't actually tell whether they're physical in some form or not.
Bots are better than you
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Possible, but the screen appears to have a rather high resolution, and Matt tempered expectations about resolution.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
It offers vastly more real estate to use for screen. I'm not seeing how it "serves no real function."
Look--I've said before in this thread--this wouldn't be my first choice. But the overreaction in here is insane.
1) We have no idea if this is a handheld or console controller.
2) We have no idea if there is a pro controller that could be used for all games instead.
3) We have no idea about ANY OTHER ASPECT of the system/controller and yet people are already "Oh man Nintendo is out of the console business in 3 years!!!!"
KojiKnight
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As a million mock ups have shown... not even close. Maybe 30%, and I think people are forgetting that Nintendo likes to Nintendo and we may get other ways to hold/use it than usual (see 'book' style for the DS for a few games)
chrisPjelly
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Unnecessarily expensive controller aside, I would actually love for this to be the next handheld.
Why do so many people treat things like this as if they're jewelry? "teh ugly!1". Its a controller, functionality and comfort is the only thing that has any relevance. You're not going out to a club wearing the thing around your neck and nobody cares what you look like with it in your hands.
Anyway to the pic, doesn't look comfortable, which tells me its very likely not real. Nintendo don't do uncomfortable.
Anyway to the pic, doesn't look comfortable, which tells me its very likely not real. Nintendo don't do uncomfortable.
You're talking about powering the equivalent of over a 6 inch screen. How much battery life do you think you're going to get out of that?
GhostTrick
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pixelpushing on Reddit just made this highlighting some of the buttons
Odd that A & B are switched from the traditional Nintendo positions unless it's to try to hide that it's the NX controller. Obviously other buttons could pop up depending on the game if this is legit. We also don't know what's on the bottom.
I think this would probably be killer for AR if there's a camera with good resolution on the bottom of the controller.
I still don't think this makes logical sense given it's going to be pretty pricey with all the tech in the controller (or handheld). Rosti's really good at digging up patents and stuff but I wouldn't considering him an insider that seals the deal one way or the other.
Just the fact that some of these are so super faint makes me think it's not a 'shop.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Welp, if thats actually a real prototype and Rosti isn't stirring for shenanigans then Nintendo is going to need all the fucking luck in the world.
Doubling down on gamepad but an even worse iteration of it as an oval you're gonna cover with your thumbs just fucking because. Maybe this is the straw that breaks the donkeys back generation where people accept "they probably shouldn't be making hardware anymore :E"
Doubling down on gamepad but an even worse iteration of it as an oval you're gonna cover with your thumbs just fucking because. Maybe this is the straw that breaks the donkeys back generation where people accept "they probably shouldn't be making hardware anymore :E"
Fine Ham Abounds
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Rösti;198593439 said:
what is this, a tumblr image address
Oh, nm, already mentioned hex
Mysterious
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That's not exactly "a lot".
Jim_Cacher
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Honestly I liked the patent design from the get-go. I thought it was sleek as hell. If this is the console controller, I don't know why they dropped the grips. If it's a handheld and has lumpy shit in the back, that's okay too. Or it's just a prototype.
Haptic buttons vs. physical I'm not going to worry about until people play the device and give impressions. But when it comes to control practicality, I have to say I really do trust Nintendo on that. They wouldn't just do away with physical buttons for shits and giggles. How a game plays is super important to them.
Exactly my thought. It is impossible that Nintendo does not consider about control when their games nearly always have good control. I have faith on that.
Looks better than 540p. Probably 720p. Or some custom resolution between those.
I guess you never played with the classic controller before they added the grips
Also the n64 controller
Nintendo has done uncomfortable plenty
This was my first thought coming to this thread. Nintendo either has to announce it, or at least start shooting down rumours that might damage the NX brand before it even gets released. They need to be smarter than they were during the Wii/Wii U launch where they kept themselves quiet while the Internet exploded with rumours and ridiculous negative press in gaming sites. Same thing is happening now and they are just not moving.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
The whole "but my hands will cover most of the screen!" argument makes no sense to me. Who holds a controller like that? Plus, if they put the grips on like the patent had, that takes care of like 90% of that issue.
As for the leak, I wonder if this guy is going to get sued over this. If the NDA is extreme as people have been saying, it could get ugly.
As for the leak, I wonder if this guy is going to get sued over this. If the NDA is extreme as people have been saying, it could get ugly.
KojiKnight
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pixelpushing on Reddit just made this highlighting some of the buttons
Odd that A & B are switched from the traditional Nintendo positions unless it's to try to hide that it's the NX controller. Obviously other buttons could pop up depending on the game if this is legit. We also don't know what's on the bottom.
I think this would probably be killer for AR if there's a camera with good resolution on the bottom of the controller.
I still don't think this makes logical sense given it's going to be pretty pricey with all the tech in the controller (or handheld). Rosti's really good at digging up patents and stuff but I wouldn't considering him an insider that seals the deal one way or the other.
Does it bother anyone else that those A and B buttons are in the wrong order? Please Nintendo, don't give in to peer pressure and change your A and B locations to match Microsoft... You invented the A and B positions!
Indeed. It is the gamepad devolved. At least the gamepad was a normal controller, with the screen on the inside. This an oval with the entire face being a screen and the thumb pads going through it. Just horrendous.
James Scott
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Where are the grips? I don't get this controller. At least the DS and WiiU form factors are practical, this thing seems like a gimmick for the sake of it. I keep looking at the picture and my only question is "If you wanna have a screen on your controller, why not just stay with to the WiiU Pad instead of this oval fuckery."
Opus Angelorum
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I recall an awful lot of people on GAF thought the original Xbox 360 leaks were fake, and the fact that Rosti hasn't been banned says a lot making a statement like that.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
If you can move the buttons around at will (which would undoubtedly be an advantage of this control scheme), I'm guessing it was the choice of the developer to do so.
If this is the route Nintendo is going to take, then I'm honestly surprised. As badly as the Wii U flopped, you'd think they would want to distance themselves from anything even remotely similar to it. I guess not. It will be interesting to see how they market this without generating confusion like they did with the Wii/Wii U's entire first year marketing campaign.
Acquiescence
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I'm worried about the carb intake more than anything.
Little Monser
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It's potentially a devkit/mock up. I'd hope there are prongs for extra grip/
EmCeeGramr
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I mean if they're on the screen then a developer could just use the Microsoft configuration if they wanted to, barring Nintendo having rules about that.
Kiddy Dong
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Anyone who followed the old NX speculation threads (RIP) knows that rosti does in fact have contacts with those in the know. He wasn't able to deliver the details in those threads due to NDAs...but maybe now that someone else did proper leak, he can cement the reality of it. #TeamReal
See page 55 and the posts about Rosti.
Serenitynow
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Not necessarily
That worked when it had grips. With this design, would you not rest the palms of your hands on the sides of the screen?
Not necessarily
Yup, my guess is most games won't use the whole screen, but rather have UI elements around the joysticks. While you *can* use the whole screen, your focus will be in a rectangle in the middle. I doubt your character (if you have one) will ever leave the center rectangle.
I can't even begin to imagine developing for a screen like this. Sounds like a nightmare to anyone trying to port their game to this console. Worse than having to add a second screen in some ways.
Dev kit might not have the grips yet. Or maybe they're detachable to get to the hardware in the back (again, for dev kit).
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