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[Destructoid] Leaked photo of NX controller?
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Plinko
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Not sure if this has been posted yet but the image on the screen is from about 6 seconds into this tech demo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=31&v=LMcscM_Hogc
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Wow. Nice detective work here. If this thing is pulling 62 FPS for a UE4 demo, that speaks well for the system's power.
A miserable pile of secrets.
Ideally, Nintendo would be using something like this, but it's probably a few years away and *very* expensive!
It's also pretty limited (the size shape and location of the buttons are predetermined, you can't actually change the layout) and appears to leave stretch mark across the screen when the buttons depress. No thanks.
Ideally you'd want something like this. Real, physical buttons with touch for supplementary functions. Maybe you wouldn't need the entire ABXY diamond layout (that wouldn't much room for touch targets out on the periphery) but physical A & B are a must (though without X and Y, don't expect any fighting games, outside of smash and maybe some smartphone style garbage).
However even something like this does not have me sold. Why? Because of the Vita of all things. It's way too easy to accidentally hit touch targets on the thing when using the sticks and it has a good 5-6mm of space between them and the screen. Imagine what will happen if the screen actually surrounds the buttons and the touch targets are right next to them. Either the developers need to come up with some clever programming to accurately ignore accidental touches (may or may not be viable, depending on the game) or the touch targets need to be further away from the inputs to the point where the whole freeform display thing pretty much goes to waste.
Graphics Horse
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The circle of gaf leak reactions
Not sure if this has been posted yet but the image on the screen is from about 6 seconds into this tech demo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=31&v=LMcscM_Hogc
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awesome find
Serenitynow
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And just when I was starting to think it real, I am unsure again. If I were making a fake, this is exactly what I would do. Use a non-descript scene from an obscure Unreal Engine 4 demo video and hope no one traces it. What are the odds that the company in question would have that running on their dev kit?
Edit to the last sentence: As opposed to their own game/software. Unless they really JUST got the dev kit.
Not sure if this has been posted yet but the image on the screen is from about 6 seconds into this tech demo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=31&v=LMcscM_Hogc
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That's a good find.
For the Wii U, I know that Epic used the Project Sword (Infinity Blade-esque tech demo of that Medieval town) when porting Unreal Engine 3 to the system, so this would be consistent with that.
reelbigtink
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The mouse-wheel triggers will make this much more "button press" friendly.
dancrane212
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Not sure if this has been posted yet but the image on the screen is from about 6 seconds into this tech demo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=31&v=LMcscM_Hogc
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Great catch! Still hopeful the system is running modern, cost effective, mobile hardware ala Shield TV - mobile UE4 demo lends a bit more to that coming to pass. If I'm just buying a console for Nintendo games I'd like it no to be $400 Canadian.
Unreal Engine 4 was a given otherwise Square Enix wouldn't have confirmed DQ XI on it.
But nice catch.
Fujinn
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Without screen resolution i guess not much.
Maximizing screen space - underneath/around your thumb, palm and fingers.
It makes no sense at all.
Developers would have to create every single game with either a dummy art border around the actual playscreen or go with a huge ultrawide FOV and make sure the outside edges are completely non-essential because otherwise your fingers could be blocking the content. How does it honestly add anything? Putting HUD elements there would equally be annoying as it's outside of the central view and periodically obscured by your hands.
Sounds to me that Nintendo just grabs one idea and just runs with it all the way to the end without ever stopping to go 'why'. The Wii-U is a splendid example. Brimming with potential but completely underutilized in practice.
Bots are better than you
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Hot damn, the screen is from a UE4 tech demo?
Hold the press, darnit! THIS would be the real story from the leak!
Hold the press, darnit! THIS would be the real story from the leak!
DaSorcerer7
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Not sure if this has been posted yet but the image on the screen is from about 6 seconds into this tech demo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=31&v=LMcs_Hogc
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Nice find!
Now THAT'S interesting!
PuppetMaster
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Ya it is totally that video
Or from that UE4 demo anyway. Makes sense for a dev kit.
Or from that UE4 demo anyway. Makes sense for a dev kit.
It's not real.
lightchris
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That's the only way it wouldn't be horrible. The sticks going out of a continuous image like in this example are just awful and distracting. Then again, it seems way worse than just having physical buttons. The entire concept is flawed imo.
Kiddy Dong
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Not sure if this has been posted yet but the image on the screen is from about 6 seconds into this tech demo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=31&v=LMcscM_Hogc
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Is this for UE4? Can't view, at work.
If so, it would fall in line with Dave's (confirmed) leaks, adding further credibility to the photograph.
xsapeguy2014
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Koji Knight think you might find its either the portable/home or just controller from home!
what isn't?
Hear hear!
It's the UE4 demo for the Snapdragon 800 from Qualcomm.
Nintendoga
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That looks stupid (If real or close to the real design). Innovation vs comfortability of playing Nintendo games for the next 6 years. Looks like I'm Day 1 for the NX pro Controller.
I think we need to ease into the market to let people get used to the idea. Gamepad leapt when it should've walked. Hopefully ten years from now it becomes more acceptable.
I think we need to ease into the market to let people get used to the idea. Gamepad leapt when it should've walked. Hopefully ten years from now it becomes more acceptable.
So it probably has some decent power. Too bad the controller is still an abomination. Shame.
I assume you still have to swap your UI around and have it display virtual buttons (all of which I assume there will be tools for in the devkit). You could be right, though. To get a 'proper' port on it will require a bit of work, i'd imagine.
KojiKnight
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Why would they be overlaying the GAME where your fingers will be? No, games will be cropped into the center and the outside will be for HUD elements/additional touch buttons, etc.
Mysterious
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Please don't call this Wii Touch.
You could also change the edges and button areas with themes ala 3ds interface. IE) make your handheld/console your own. Which is a rad idea.
... But not having physical buttons kills this thing dead.
The leak.
62 pages on this shit? C'mon.
Could be the most comfortable controller in the world for all you know.
80s Bad Guy
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It's happening already. It's like people woke up hungover with a hideous person lying next to them in bed and are desperately trying to find any positivity in the situation.
Well, maybe I can love her cankles.......
Schnozberry
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You can differentiate buttons by feel with good haptics, plus it allows developers to customize controls based on what makes sense in the context of the game. It's certainly more adaptable than trying to cram more and more features onto four face buttons, or getting into complex control schemes with analog stick gestures. You can customize the number of buttons, the layout, and have different feedback settings for different actions. It's certainly not all bad.
James Scott
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That's the UE4 mobile tech demo. I remember seeing it a few weeks ago when discussing UE4 on the portable NX...this is the new portable?
Serenitynow
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I guess maybe I'm the opposite of y'all but the fact that what is shown on the screen can be found in a video online takes away credence from this leak, not lends to it.
Really makes me think handheld for this given the demo used. Or it's just an ARM demo. The 800 is a good spec baseline for a handheld.
AcademicSaucer
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Fucking Ubisoft.
Fujinn
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It actually says nothing
KojiKnight
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Most likely... considering a few things like lack of grips (would make a portable unweildly)
Wii Touch U
It's also pretty limited (the size shape and location of the buttons are predetermined, you can't actually change the layout) and appears to leave stretch mark across the screen when the buttons depress. No thanks.
Ideally you'd want something like this. Real, physical buttons with touch for supplementary functions. Maybe you wouldn't need the entire ABXY diamond layout (that wouldn't much room for touch targets out on the periphery) but physical A & B are a must (though without X and Y, don't expect any fighting games, outside of smash and maybe some smartphone style garbage).
However even something like this does not have me sold. Why? Because of the Vita of all things. It's way too easy to accidentally hit touch targets on the thing when using the sticks and it has a good 5-6mm of space between them and the screen. Imagine what will happen if the screen actually surrounds the buttons and the touch targets are right next to them. Either the developers need to come up with some clever programming to accurately ignore accidental touches (may or may not be viable, depending on the game) or the touch targets need to be further away from the inputs to the point where the whole freeform display thing pretty much goes to waste.
Oh, I know. It was just a possibility in a few years after the technology was more refined.
But it shouldn't be too hard to actually define the coordinates where you wanted the screen to be raised. Just "copy" the ones used to draw the buttons. So I don't think it would be limited to a specific layout.
As for the unintended touches, check my post quoting Nintendo's patent after the user Graphics Horse pointed out to me they had something about that in there. They seem to ignore accidental touches/inputs in clearly defined areas depending on how the analog stick is being moved.
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