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[MrFrankFontaine]

Trump is insane and Luckey seems to be an idiot, but I think the header is misleading. He's funding smear campaigns against HC, that seems to be his goal. Not directly funding or speaking out for White Supremacy groups.

This!!!

 

[Jebusman]

How does he still have a job at facebook? He should be fired immediately.

It's only 7AM in California. Most of this wasn't going to blow up until the news cycle picked up on it this morning, so I wouldn't expect any sort of statement until later today (or none at all if Facebook is now trying to figure out how to damage control this).

 

[Stop It]

Versus continuing to bomb hospitals in the middle east with drones? The things you listed are important things, they are. I'm in an inter-racial marriage myself. I get that. I just think the endless murder (of brown people from a far far away land) is a more important issue than social rights of those that get to continue breathing.

Again, all else, both are horrible choices for POTUS, but it's not a simple good versus evil dichotomy that many are making it out to be. Hillary is a monster, she just doesn't show it in front of a microphone and television camera. Donald doesn't try to hide it the fact that he is a monster.

Trump wants to "bomb the carp" out of ISIS, with all the collateral that brings and has said he has no problem with going into countries and stealing their oil to pay for it.

Clinton is not perfect and the whole situation in Syria is awful. Currently the policy is bad. Trump given his way would cause a global level calamity if he tried half of the things he has shot from his hip.

Again, a flawed candidate vs the worst demagogue to get a mainstream party nomination in living memory is not equivalent.

Luckey, supporting this guy using these tactics, appealing to the very worst possible reasons to support him is deplorable.

 

[SlipperyFishes]

That's my issue here.

Is it possible Lucky supported Nimble America because he wanted to support Trump and not necessarily support white supremacy. Yes.

Is it possible that Lucky is racists and supports white supremacy. Yes.

However, neither of these are confirmed facts. Nimble America is just like other pro GOP sites that are looking to push their pro Trump agenda.

There are connections, but to have a thread title that clearly states Luckey is supporting white supremacy is ridiculous until it's factual.

Well.

Luckey confirmed to The Daily Beast that he is NimbleRichMan adding: "I've got plenty of money. Money is not my issue. I thought it sounded like a real jolly good time."

Who is this NimbleRichMan? Why he's none other than one of the vice-presidents of this group — and their primary money man.

Nimble America's front page features a story about rapists operating in "criminal gangs" along the Mexico border, echoing some of Trump's most controversial claims.

Its founders and vice presidents are listed on the group's website under pseudonyms, including "NimbleRichMan," Luckey's alter ego, according to The Daily Beast. He is described as "a near billionaire and staunch supporter of the Common Sense Conservative movement." One-time Twitter harasser and right-wing extremist Milo Yiannopoulos is named as a "silent partner."

Also of note: during the reporting of this article, posts pertaining to Nimble America were rapidly being deleted across Reddit.

Do you still think there's nothing to see there?

 

[zethren]

That's your opinion, and if you reject all of the evidence that disqualifies Hillary as a good person or a suitable for the position of POTUS, then you're no better than the conservative media.

The fact that you (seemingly) are going to willfully vote (i'm not voting for trump btw) for Hillary speaks volumes

Willfully vote Hillary over Trump? Absolutely.
That man has no place in the White House, regardless of my overall opinion of her. If both actually were unsuitable monsters, that would be another thing entirely. But that's a false narrative that you and others are peddling.

My point is not to say that Hillary is a saint, but rather that your statement of both being unsuitable monsters is wrong. That's not opinion. One is absolutely clearly unsuitable for the position. Period.

 

[Murkas]

Nice to see this pic coming to life in this thread.

 

[ColdDeckEd]

I admit that I don't watch the repetitive news cycles on the candidates, but by all accounts he appears to be critical of the continued wars in the middle east and believes that our meddling in elections and or installing leaders in these regions to be risky.

Do I know he won't continue them, no, but of the two candidates he appears to be more likely to stop using the drones.

That opinion is based solely on ignorance. He has talked about using torture and killing the family of terrorists. He is the one more likely to start a war by far.

 

[Krejlooc]

1) Muslim isn't a race. That would be religious profiling, which I find wrong too.

Yes, we all understood the dumb, irrelevant technicality you were pointing out when you tried to downplay his stance.

2) "racial profiling" (his words) — that's the context of my reply. His words were not racial profiling.

protip: people are more upset with the "profiling" part than the "racial" part

 

[Spukc]

 

[FunkyMunkey]

Problem is that both candidates are equally bad, in their own way. You americans have to choose between 2 evils, an neither of them are lesser evils. Clinton will continue the status quo, which is not god, and Trump is very close to being a facist.

the fuck is this? not even close

 

[Relaxed Muscle]

This!!!

Nimble America's front page features a story about rapists operating in "criminal gangs" along the Mexico border, echoing some of Trump's most controversial claims.

Say that again.

 

[Nanashrew]

I haven't had television in like 10 years, and yet I'm not uninformed on these subjects. It seems you're trying to turn willful ignorance into a virtue. The only way you can avoid news of Donald Trump's aggressive stance on war is if you go out of your way to avoid it. Hell, I remember hearing about his "Why can't we use Nukes?" spiel during a commercial break for a Alt Rock radio station when it was all going down. You don't have to be tuned into news networks to hear about his crazy shit, people sort of love to talk about what a train wreck his policies are.

This is the same for me. I haven't had TV in I think about 3 years now and much of the news reaches me through social media and actively seeking it out. I'm not the most knowledgeable political person but I've read a hell of a lot to know that Trump has had many failed business ventures, has horrible policies and promises with nothing to back those promises up. And overall he's just a very vile human being with the way acts and treats people.

 

[Specialmias]

I remember when I was mocked for pointing this out. Palmer's girlfriend had some tweets about someone finally doing something about black people and Muslims around a year ago that got deleted. I pointed that out and was told it didn't connect to him.

 

[Mahonay]

1) Muslim isn't a race. That would be religious profiling, which I find wrong too.

2) "racial profiling" (his words) — that's the context of my reply. His words were not racial profiling.

So when looking for Muslims they would be pulling white people out of lines?

 

[Scubasteve2365]

US has a long history of interfering with other countries soverignity for their own interests. What makes Hillary worse than say, Reagan that supported a coup d'etat in Chile, when democratically, that nation voted for someone he didn't like.

That action ended in the death of thousands of people in the hands of Pinochet. They even allowed Pinochet to do a terrorist attack on american soil so he could kill his main oppositor.

What kind of hypocresy is this?

I'm not sure if you're assuming Im a conservative and by trying to draw comparison's to the conservative idol that is Reagan.

US has a long history doing that, and I personally would like to see that changed. Trump has indicated that he doesn't believe the US should be policing the world, whereas Hillary has indicated that US should continue to be a leader.

 

[Armaros]

1) Muslim isn't a race. That would be religious profiling, which I find wrong too.

2) "racial profiling" (his words) — that's the context of my reply. His words were not racial profiling.

In sure Trump main targets are white or light skinned Arabs that are Muslim.

Trying to hide behind dumb semantic arguments isn't going to help you

 

[low-G]

That's your opinion, and if you reject all of the evidence that disqualifies Hillary as a good person or a suitable for the position of POTUS, then you're no better than the conservative media.

The fact that you (seemingly) are going to willfully vote (i'm not voting for trump btw) for Hillary speaks volumes

Lol, come now. That's like saying Palmer Luckey is no better than Hitler.

Trump has promised and said horrendous things. Hillary is just bad.

I agree wholeheartedly that this is a really shitty situation we've gotten into. But every half-intelligent person should be attacking Trump every chance they get.

 

[E-Cat]

Nice to see this pic coming to life in this thread.

It is racist to imply that all white people think like this.

 

[MrFrankFontaine]

Well.

Do you still think there's nothing to see there?

I'm not questioning whether Luckey is backing Nimble America.

I'm saying that Nimble America's goal is to shit post Hillary.

I think people are either confused or making connections that this indefinitely makes Luckey a white supremacist. It does not.

 

[Already Torn]

It is racist to imply that all white people think like this.

Not really

 

[EventHorizon]

And you think this despite all evidence of his interactions in the business world saying otherwise, coupled with his own comments on torture, political aggression, the middle east, etc. all indicating that he'd be a bloody, petty president.

Let's not forget this doozy: Donald Trump on terrorists: 'Take out their families'

Sorry, was replying to Scubasteve but accidentally quoted you--now fixed.

Indeed, the implicit message being that manslaughter and murder are NOT the same thing. Funny how you construed my meaning differently, no doubt owing to the fact that it looked as though I was responding to you instead of him.

No problem. Fixed my reply to remove your comment.

 

[Relaxed Muscle]

I'm not sure if you're assuming Im a conservative and by trying to draw comparison's to the conservative idol that is Reagan.

US has a long history doing that, and I personally would like to see that changed. Trump has indicated that he doesn't believe the US should be policing the world, whereas Hillary has indicated that US should continue to be a leader.

Instead he said that "if we have nuclear bombs, why we can't use them", which is exponentially worse than someone that keeps the US current foreign politics.

 

[NHale]

emphasis mine.

it happens. Collateral damage is a given when you are dropping bombs. You accept collateral damage when you push the big red button. The existing ruling class (of which Hillary is a member) has decided that our interference into that region, a costly ineffective affair, is worth extreme collateral damage. This is not really debatable.

I thought you didn't watched the news men.

EDIT: BTW you know what do you call what Mr. Trump has defended in regards to killing terrorists families as a way to win the "war on ISIS"? It's not collateral damage...it's a war crime.

 

[RadarScope1]

I admit that I don't watch the repetitive news cycles on the candidates, but by all accounts he appears to be critical of the continued wars in the middle east and believes that our meddling in elections and or installing leaders in these regions to be risky.

Do I know he won't continue them, no, but of the two candidates he appears to be more likely to stop using the drones.

You're right. He's likely to use nukes across ISIS-held territory. Can't drop those from a drone.

 

[Armaros]

I'm not questioning whether Luckey is backing Nimble America.

I'm saying that Nimble America's goal is to shit post Hillary.

I think people are either confused or making connections that this indefinitely makes Luckey a white supremacist. It does not.

You just ignored reporting of how Nimble America parroted Trumps racist and white supremacist ideas.

 

[Majmun]

Good to know.

Never touching Oculus products.

 

[Mahonay]

I'm not sure if you're assuming Im a conservative and by trying to draw comparison's to the conservative idol that is Reagan.

US has a long history doing that, and I personally would like to see that changed. Trump has indicated that he doesn't believe the US should be policing the world, whereas Hillary has indicated that US should continue to be a leader.

Threatening other countries with nuclear weapons and advocating for torture is just self defense then?

 

[Jebusman]

You know, the US wouldn't have to police the world...

Spoiler

If there isn't a world left to police

 

[Scubasteve2365]

Willfully vote Hillary over Trump? Absolutely.
That man has no place in the White House, regardless of my overall opinion of her. If both actually were unsuitable monsters, that would be another thing entirely. But that's a false narrative that you and others are peddling.

My point is not to say that Hillary is a saint, but rather that your statement of both being unsuitable monsters is wrong. That's not opinion. One is absolutely clearly unsuitable for the position. Period.

Still disagree, neither are suitable.

One clearly is different and wrong. One clearly continues the same old corruption.

Hillary speaks better though, it almost as if elections were as pure as 9th graders selecting their class president.

 

[Carcetti]

It is racist to imply that all white people think like this.

Congratulations, you found out who the real racists are... *mega eyeroll*

 

[Jotaka]

Nice to see this pic coming to life in this thread.

should put rest of world: Trump duhhh

 

[Armaros]

Still disagree, neither are suitable.

One clearly is different and wrong. One clearly continues the same old corruption.

Hillary speaks better though, it almost as if elections were as pure as 9th graders selecting their class president.

What old corruption? You don't watch the news. So what evidence of old corruption that she is guilty of?

And how does that equate to equally bad as Trump if it's true?

 

[Mahonay]

Still disagree, neither are suitable.

One clearly is different and wrong. One clearly continues the same old corruption.

Hillary speaks better though, it almost as if elections were as pure as 9th graders selecting their class president.

So you're more ok with overt racism and mass racial profiling. I see.

 

[Relaxed Muscle]

You know, the US wouldn't have to police the world...

Spoiler

If there isn't a world left to police

Trump is not gonna police the world, just gonna bully those countries that don't support them. Clearly much better and less bloody.

 

[User Name Here]

You know, the US wouldn't have to police the world...

If there isn't a world left to police

Makes sense.

 

[Stop It]

Nice to see this pic coming to life in this thread.

I want to disagree with this picture so much.

But then I see polling results and I get sad. Situations like don't exactly help.

Hell, here in the UK I represent a dying breed, a liberal (that's UK liberal, an important distinction), free trade advocating social progressive. The Brexit vote turned the left into protectionism again and the right towards nativist. Yey!

 

[Helznicht]

If I want to support capitalism and entrepreneurship with small government influence but do not want to be classified as a racisit, who should I vote for? Need your help GAF.

 

[Theanine3D]

Wait...what?!? The US is NOT intentionally bombing hospitals. You must be thinking of the Syrians or Russians who Trump idolizes.

The U.S. is funding Israel every day, and Israel is widely known to intentionally bomb hospitals.

I don't support Trump (I'm Hispanic and I'm not self-hating), but I also don't like seeing people dismiss the horrific things our government does, regardless of where they are on the political spectrum.

 

[Already Torn]

should put rest of world: Trump duhhh

Putin likes him!

 

[iJudged]

Totaly out of left field here, I do not know what to get, vive or oculus? I keep reading and both have pros and cons but oculus seems to have more going for it, I am stuck! I wanna get something already but not sure what ;( I am sorry for the reply that has nothing to do with the post.

 

[DryvBy]

Yes, we all understood the dumb, irrelevant technicality you were pointing out when you tried to downplay his stance.



protip: people are more upset with the "profiling" part than the "racial" part

Irrelevant? Race =/= Religion

It's dumb to assume they're the same.

 

[spekkeh]

I also think people need to realise, as hard as it can be to see, that white supremecy isn't monopolised in white cloaks and dumb masks. Any action that works to maintain the status quo of white privilege in society is white supremecy. And a vote for Trump sure as hell is a vote to keep minorities suppressed.

See that's, I can see how you would go calling Luckey a white supremacist based on that, but it's a kind of Godwin that makes the term meaningless.
In fact you might as well call Hillary a white supremacist based on that.

 

[NewFresh]

Problem is that both candidates are equally bad, in their own way. You americans have to choose between 2 evils, an neither of them are lesser evils. Clinton will continue the status quo, which is not god, and Trump is very close to being a facist. What he and his followers dont understand is that the US was build on immigration. Besides, most of the violence comes from far right groups, not muslims, so why he wants to ban/limit them from entering the country, i dont know. He is a populist though, so that might be it.

On topic: Funding rightwing groups is just the wrong way to go. They are known for being violent. not that it matters but i will not be purchase anything that man produces.

What? How did you just equate the status quo to radical authoritarian nationalism?

This "They are both the same!" crap has gotten out of control.

 

[Jotaka]

Threatening other countries with nuclear weapons and advocating for torture is just self defense then?

don't forget killing terrorist family (wife and kids) is ok.

 

[E-Cat]

Not really

Your race shouldn't make a difference to whether you find Trump's actions condemnable.

Congratulations, you found out who the real racists are... *mega eyeroll*

And who would that be?

 

[AmuroChan]

Trump wants to "bomb the carp" out of ISIS, with all the collateral that brings and has said he has no problem with going into countries and stealing their oil to pay for it.

Clinton is not perfect and the whole situation in Syria is awful. Currently the policy is bad. Trump given his way would cause a global level calamity if he tried half of the things he has shot from his hip.

Again, a flawed candidate vs the worst demagogue to get a mainstream party nomination in living memory is not equivalent.

Luckey, supporting this guy using these tactics, appealing to the very worst possible reasons to support him is deplorable.

And that's the key point. Trump can say whatever he wants, but if he thinks he can just do whatever he wishes, then he doesn't know how the US presidency works. The reality is that even if he somehow wins, very little will actually happen because much like every other President have had to deal with in the past decade+, everything will just get blocked and gridlocked by Congress.

 

[User Name Here]

Still disagree, neither are suitable.

One clearly is different and wrong. One clearly continues the same old corruption.

Hillary speaks better though, it almost as if elections were as pure as 9th graders selecting their class president.

How do you know that?

 

[kitchenmotors]

It is racist to imply that all white people think like this.

Who else besides white straight guys are doing this tho? As someone who is a minority and gay, the only people I've come across doing the mental gymnastics in regards to Trump are white straight guys.

 

[Compsiox]

So do we know if this was all a joke yet?

 

[Ploid 3.0]

Problem is that both candidates are equally bad, in their own way. You americans have to choose between 2 evils, an neither of them are lesser evils. Clinton will continue the status quo, which is not god, and Trump is very close to being a facist. What he and his followers dont understand is that the US was build on immigration. Besides, most of the violence comes from far right groups, not muslims, so why he wants to ban/limit them from entering the country, i dont know. He is a populist though, so that might be it.

On topic: Funding rightwing groups is just the wrong way to go. They are known for being violent. not that it matters but i will not be purchase anything that man produces.

I don't care for Clinton myself, and she has done some messed up things, flip when it's safe to do so, but this isn't even close. Trump is obviously, Obviously the worse of them. What?