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Props to MS and all but I do wonder how people hail MS as the king returned when they have yet to win a single gen.
Xbox 360 was the #1 console in the UK last gen.
Props to MS and all but I do wonder how people hail MS as the king returned when they have yet to win a single gen.
Xbox 360 was the #1 console in the UK last gen.
This is a ridiculous sentence.
I know this is GAF and all where people say the prices are so great they are buying their third console, that's not really the general audience.Unlike the one S, there is no clear visual improvement in looks in the slim and the PS4 OG is "Good enough" for most people's needs. This weeks firesale is obviously a responce to that, but the problem remains that going into the holiday season, there is no real reason to buy a PS4 if you haven't already.
In Denmark, at least, the PS4 Pro is almost 200 USD more expensive than the XB1S. I'm not sure I'd consider that "priced similarly". On Amazon.uk the XB1S is currently 100£ cheaper than the PS4 Pro. Also not priced similarly. It's also 100 USD cheaper on Amazon.com. Also a large difference.
In short, your conclusion about sales "falling off the map" doesn't hold, and you know it. At least not due to "being priced similarly".
Also, as we've seen time and time again, something selling out != large sales. Why do you think the Pro will sell out? And if it does, do you suspect it's because of low stock or a huge interest?
Not surprising. X1S is the more intriguing console.
Will PSVR even have the stock this holiday for the casual market to even try and purchase it? It costing $349 + the requirement of a PS4 is already a hindrance, but it sounds like PSVR stock will be low anyway.
Why is it? Based on the momentum the PS4 had out the gate, The Xbox one should not of had a chance.
Like it or not, Microsoft has worked hard to stay in the race, and Sony have rested on their laurels in comparison (although to be fair, they still have been more aggressive than SCEA)
People are waiting for PS PRO, PS slim born dead.
I bet most of the X1S sales are people who have a PS4 and decided to jump in to an X1 with the new revision.
They did a great job with the S. Congrats!
Also it's clear now that scorpio's reveal didn't kill the sales of xbox one like people predicted.
Im waiting for the Pro so why in hell would I buy a Slim? I think a lot of us are waiting for this. Lets see that sales of X1 next year near the Scorpio launch
The war has been lost, but Microsoft can still remain competitive in the UK and could eke out a narrow win in the end.
Or people looking for the cheapest UHD blu ray drive.
When you don't sell that much a % increase is much larger
10->100
1000->1300
Im in for a PS Pro, but these deals are crazy, even in my country i can get a xbox one s plus fifa plus an extra controller below the normal 299 mrsp.
Im going to get one because:
A - Im searching for an UHD player
B - Plays xbox exclusive games that are not on PS4 (hello Horizon 3)
If PS4 Pro had a UHD drive i probably wouldnt buy a Xbox One S.
A king usually rules a kingdom.Hmmm... that's tenuous. Just one country? That's more like return of the Earl maybe or Duke at a stretch...
The PC versions are mediocre to poor so its not like its an option anyways.Most casual gamers don't care if these games are on PC I think. Spencer is right. Console exclusive is still enough to make people want the platform because they want to play on consoles.
Not surprising. X1S is the more intriguing console.
Most casual gamers don't care if these games are on PC I think. Spencer is right. Console exclusive is still enough to make people want the platform because they want to play on consoles.
The S is a really nice upgrade over a regular Xbox One. Playstation 4 Slim, not so much. Good to see the better product do better.
(Of course, hard numbers would be more interesting, but since this is the UK surely this means that the S is selling much better than 4 Slim?)
Yeah, X1S doesn't wobble... Who would want a console that can't even wobble?
A king usually rules a kingdom.
The PlayStation Slim will outsell the Pro for quite some time. As expected the Pro will see an initial surge in sales at release as the enthusiast upgrade en mass to get the more powerful console. After that initial surge, the typical price dynamics will kick in. The mass market priced console will sell more than the enthusiast priced console. It's pretty simple in terms of population:
Mass Market > Enthusiast Market
Not surprising. X1S is the more intriguing console.
It plays multiplatform games that look largely the same and plays 4k Blu ray when you eventually upgrade, overall package seems to be greater for the money you pay.OléGunner;218513966 said:I mean the XB1 S is still weaker than a PS4 slim.
Dunno if having 4k blu-ray automatically makes it better.
But yeah hard numbers would be nice.
I can confirm in my circle of friends that not a single one who owns an Xbox One got an S. Most of them think they are a waste of money, "why would I get?" etc. I had an Xbox One, but sold it after I beat Halo 5. Love my PS4. Hate Xbox One UI. But the new S is sexy, and I want to play Gears of War 4 deathmatch with Xbox friends. So I recently nabbed an S. No regrets.I bet most of the X1S sales are people who have a PS4 and decided to jump in to an X1 with the new revision.
You're probably not wrong. Going to be interesting to see the to and fro here up to January sales. Xbox Slim seems, percentage wise anyway in lieu of numbers, so have attracted decent uptick. PS4 slim seems slower but as I noted earlier the Pro is too close and too well priced for the PS4 Slim to have any chance of having this kind of spike. It's also so similar to PS4 I can easily see people diving for great deals on original PS4 instead.On the other hand, old 500GB PS4 sales will have gone through the fucking roof today in the UK
Just like in the US they may win a month or two but the end result will be the same.
Percentages is a marketing tool, they really dont say much. What were the sales numbers the week before xbs released? 1000, 3000, 10000....? a 1000% is good but compared to what?
You misread my comment. Specifically this part:
" Meanwhile sales of higher end XB1 Ss will fall off the map due to being priced similarly to the much better value, the PS4 Pro."
I am talking about the high end 2TB, and to a lesser extent 1TB, Xbox One Ss going against the PS4 Pro. That 2TB XB1 S doesn't stand a chance. Once the cost of the Xbox console gets at or above $349, it simply can't compete with the PS4 Pro. Microsoft does not have a competitive product at this price range.
What does this even mean? The wars been lost, but they can still eke out a narrow win in the end? Doesn't that mean it's not lost? Also, why does everybody refer to it as a "war." Wars have losers. Both of these corporations are making money hand over fist. Nobody is "losing."