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Protesting the Inauguration of Donald Trump
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GeordieMark
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What's with all the language fella? Cool your jets. The funny thing is you thought your little line was oh-so-witty and sharp that you felt the need to repost it here. You've got no class.
Guileless
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This is the logic abortion opponents use to burn down abortion clinics.
SmackDaddy
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Your pithy bullshit will do the same
this is the most waspy post lol
Would you argue that violence is never justifiable in any circumstance? I wouldn't. My objection to burning down abortion clinics isn't that violence is being used but that it's being used to do more harm (threatening doctors and women in need of help) than good (protecting fetuses, which I do not consider human life).
In this case, I think the harm (damage to businesses and homes) probably outweighs the good as well (attention for our political objections). But that's not an objection to the fundamentals, just the application.
I'd like to live in a world where no one uses violence at all, but that's just not how humans work. Breaking things is easier than fixing them.
Sub. But it came over the PA system to tune into the inauguration stream. But the network was overloaded and no one could log in, so....yay? 😄
Most of my students (like 99%) didn't want to watch it (one even yelled out "10 minutes until America's funeral!") so nothing of value was lost.
Yup. Looking at it from a historical context riots and violence are one of the most sure fire ways to cause change. Whether change for the good or the bad, that's a coin flip. Under a dictator a lot of people will die. In a still democratic country, you might get a civil rights act. But violence absolutely has an effect.
Basketball
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Nice Logic there pal
You should absolutely harm as many fascists as possible, as badly as possible.
UberTag
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Seems like your students have some good heads on their shoulders. Take heart in that.
Who are the facists in that sentence? The police? Because that's who they threw rocks at in the earlier stream. Also, you don't have the right to physically harm someone because of a label you applied on them.
Fuck.
Starfield
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Why do you go with your child on your shoulders to the front row of an ongoing protest directly towards the police? smh
Holy shit. posted this in the inaug thread.
Known neo Nazi Richard Spencer getting punched is a good start.
DontBeThatGuy
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Douche McBaggins The 3rd
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That's the assumption that the people you are protesting against are reasonable. People don't voluntarily give up power, it has to be forced away from them. Robbed if at all possible.
They can still not be a racist because of context. That however is another conversation entirely.
It seems to me more that they were making a point about how the protest is coming across to people due to what's happening and how they're going about it. I'm not sure how you can have such an issue with generalization however when you make a statement such as the following...
I can only assume you're joking.
You're missing the point of the statement. Much has indeed come of violence, but at a great cost. One that leaves both sides in a state of loss.
The world was also shaped through peaceful discourse and resolution. Order is (or at least can be) the result of people fighting for a world in which violence isn't a requirement for progress. What liberation does violence achieve here that could not be resolved with peaceful methods? Violence has been a necessary evil in the past yes, but is it necessary now within the US?
That was sickening to watch. They didn't even give the woman/person with disabilities a chance to move once they sprayed.. just kept spraying even though there were people who were (very clearly) trying to move them out of the way.
If that's the case then the whole world would be living under totalitarian egomaniacal murders. Also I don't know what the time we happen to live in would have to do with anything.
Goro Majima
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Yeah that was really shocking.
Like what's the thought process there? "welp, they're not moving so I should just stand here and keep spraying it in their face"
Tell the Jews in 1930's Germany and the Armenians in the 10's that they should nonviolently resist their oppressors and see how that works out.
antifa in the area
This is nonsense.
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Chie Satonaka
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I'm not missing the point of anything.
Violence is fine when it suits the needs of the powerful, when it's used as a tool to silence the oppressed, and when it's used to preserve the status quo.
Miss me with the idea of "peaceful resolution" while people in my country have and continue to wage war on me and people who look like me, and people who claim to be advocates of peace do nothing to stop it.
Subpar Scrub
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Who are the fascists you're talking about? Shit man, I didn't think NeoGaf would condone a user telling others to go out and commit mass serious assaults, but here we are.
Civil rights movement? It worked, but not fully, and partially because it had the threat of more radical movements popping off if the CRM'S demands weren't listened to.
Ghandi and King? Almost all of their protest were peaceful afaik.
as far as the US goes, i don't think so; not exclusively, anyways
who's neogaf?
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Subpar Scrub
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Holy shit.
They pushed the old guy to the ground after, and then pepper sprayed a child?
BEHOLD, THE HARBINGERS OF JUSTICE
Those examples are few and far between. Despite what you may think/hope humans are nowhere near the level of harmony with their instincts, urges and emotions that you are preaching for. It'll be a long time before they are.
he mentioned richard spencer (who, along with all his nazi fanboys, absolutely deserved to get punched in the fucking face)
If you vote for a racist bigot fuckwit, i will call you a racist bigot fuckwit. If you vote for Hitler, I will call you a Nazi. That's not generalising, that's looking at the shit you've done and telling the kind of garbage you are for doing it.
By "fascists" I mean "fascists." People who espouse and act on a fascist ideology. Donald Trump is very popular among them under their new sanitized branding of "alt-right."
Since fascists operate on violence and intimidation, I generally find myself cheering for the brave souls willing to go out and use the same tactics against them. I do indeed think it's morally right (or at least not morally wrong) to beat up Nazis.
Subpar Scrub
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The word condone can apply to more than individual people, you know.
So how do you pick out the fascists from a crowd? Or are you only pushing for violence against the figureheads of alt-right/fascist movements?
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