while i can't agree with a dumb absolutist statement like that, i certainly haven't said otherwise in this thread, so kindly fuck off
Blanket statements like "violence is bad" are way too simplistic. Violence against innocent people? Bad. Violence against property? Not so much.
When the government is doing the former, we shouldn't be clucking our tongues at the latter.
I'm sure that slacktivism will show President Trump.
What's with all the language fella? Cool your jets. The funny thing is you thought your little line was oh-so-witty and sharp that you felt the need to repost it here. You've got no class.
This is the logic abortion opponents use to burn down abortion clinics.
Uh, you're the teacher. You aren't required to show it.
Where's this idea that Riots don't spur change? You don't even have to go back to the founding of the country.
Martin Luther King Jr. was assassinated on April 4th, 1968. Hundreds of riots erupted in nearly every major US city. The Civil Rights Act of 1968 was signed on April 11th, 1968.
Now I will not equivocate black people being frustrated at Dr. Kings death with white anarchists, but this ahistorical view that "destroying people's property is ineffective" just highlights how many of you are stupid when it comes to history.
In this capitalistic, materialistic society that routinely values property and physical assets over human lives, breaking shit en masse is, and has been an effective way to effect change, regardless if you want to sit from your ivory tower and "take the high road"
Blanket statements like "violence is bad" are way too simplistic. Violence against innocent people? Bad. Violence against property? Not so much.
When the government is doing the former, we shouldn't be clucking our tongues at the latter.
guys you can protest but don't actually harm people
Seems like your students have some good heads on their shoulders. Take heart in that.Sub. But it came over the PA system to tune into the inauguration stream. But the network was overloaded and no one could log in, so....yay? 😄
Most of my students (like 99%) didn't want to watch it (one even yelled out "10 minutes until America's funeral!") so nothing of value was lost.
You should absolutely harm as many fascists as possible, as badly as possible.
You should absolutely harm as many fascists as possible, as badly as possible.
Who are the facists in that sentence? The police? Because that's who they threw rocks at in the earlier stream. Also, you don't have the right to physically harm someone because of a label you applied on them.
Violence is never ok, you'll lose the fight when you come to it, especially in our time, be civilizated and don't hurt other people or business, that is not ok.
They can still not be a racist because of context. That however is another conversation entirely.You might want to read the shit he has been saying. Putting a disclaimer at the end saying "totally not generalising guysssssss" doesn't fucking work. It's like saying a racial slur and saying "I'm not racist" after it.
I can only assume you're joking.Well, not all protesters destroy stuff. In fact, they are a very tiny minority.
Meanwhile 99.9% of Trump voters are racist bigoted fuckwits.
You're missing the point of the statement. Much has indeed come of violence, but at a great cost. One that leaves both sides in a state of loss.There's no truth to this at all.
The modern world was shaped by violence, both as a resistance to movements and as a tool of fear and subjugation. Of course, you already know that, but ultimately people like you are fine with things as they are, and are more concerned with order than liberation.
What's with all the language fella? Cool your jets. The funny thing is you thought your little line was oh-so-witty and sharp that you felt the need to repost it here. You've got no class.
Violence is never ok, you'll lose the fight when you come to it, especially in our time, be civilizated and don't hurt other people or business, that is not ok.
That was sickening to watch. They didn't even give the woman/person with disabilities a chance to move once they sprayed.. just kept spraying even though there were people who were (very clearly) trying to move them out of the way.
Tell the Jews in 1930's Germany and the Armenians in the 10's that they should nonviolently resist their oppressors and see how that works out.Violence is never ok, you'll lose the fight when you come to it, especially in our time, be civilizated and don't hurt other people or business, that is not ok.
Known neo Nazi Richard Spencer getting punched is a good start.
Violence is never ok, you'll lose the fight when you come to it, especially in our time, be civilizated and don't hurt other people or business, that is not ok.
My new desktop background for my work computerWhat a time to be alive...
You're missing the point of the statement. Much has indeed come of violence, but at a great cost. One that leaves both sides in a state of loss.
The world was also shaped through peaceful discourse and resolution. Order is (or at least can be) the result of people fighting for a world in which violence isn't a requirement for progress. What liberation does violence achieve here that could not be resolved with peaceful methods? Violence has been a necessary evil in the past yes, but is it necessary now within the US?
You should absolutely harm as many fascists as possible, as badly as possible.
Have there ever been mass peaceful protests for equality/rights and did they ever work?
Have there ever been mass peaceful protests for equality/rights and did they ever work?
Have there ever been mass peaceful protests for equality/rights and did they ever work?
Who are the fascists you're talking about? Shit man, I didn't think NeoGaf would condone a user telling others to go out and commit mass serious assaults, but here we are.
I'm not missing the point of anything.
Violence is fine when it suits the needs of the powerful, when it's used as a tool to silence the oppressed, and when it's used to preserve the status quo.
Miss me with the idea of "peaceful resolution" while people in my country have and continue to wage war on me and people who look like me, and people who claim to be advocates of peace do nothing to stop it.
who's neogaf?
What?
Who are the fascists you're talking about? Shit man, I didn't think NeoGaf would condone a user telling others to go out and commit mass serious assaults, but here we are.
Holy shit.
The world was also shaped through peaceful discourse and resolution. Order is (or at least can be) the result of people fighting for a world in which violence isn't a requirement for progress. What liberation does violence achieve here that could not be resolved with peaceful methods? Violence has been a necessary evil in the past yes, but is it necessary now within the US?
Who are the fascists you're talking about? Shit man, I didn't think NeoGaf would condone a user telling others to go out and commit mass serious assaults, but here we are.
They can still not be a racist because of context. That however is another conversation entirely.
It seems to me more that they were making a point about how the protest is coming across to people due to what's happening and how they're going about it. I'm not sure how you can have such an issue with generalization however when you make a statement such as the following...
I can only assume you're joking.
You're missing the point of the statement. Much has indeed come of violence, but at a great cost. One that leaves both sides in a state of loss.
The world was also shaped through peaceful discourse and resolution. Order is (or at least can be) the result of people fighting for a world in which violence isn't a requirement for progress. What liberation does violence achieve here that could not be resolved with peaceful methods? Violence has been a necessary evil in the past yes, but is it necessary now within the US?
Who are the fascists you're talking about? Shit man, I didn't think NeoGaf would condone a user telling others to go out and commit mass serious assaults, but here we are.
I'll quote it again: Who's NeoGaf?
The word condone can apply to more than individual people, you know.