Punchy4486
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Will we be able to play this co-op? Was that included in the previous Mario Advance VC releases?
EDIT: No. of Players: 1 player
Dammit.
EDIT: No. of Players: 1 player
Dammit.
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Super Mario Advance 4: SMB 3 out on NA Wii U VC tomorrow, includes e-Reader levels
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FlashbladeGAF
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NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
Because then you'd be asking why Nintendo isn't releasing Virtual Console games anymore.
Well, they did included B-Dash level in this release but with a different english name!!
At last our prayers were listened in order to be able to play that holy grail level
A Link to the Past
Banned
Nintendo has more than a few big VC releases they could be doing/have done.
Rhythm Tengoku
Mario Paint
Sin and Punishment
EarthBound Beginnings
EarthBound
Mother 3
Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan
Moero! Nekketsu Rhythm Damashii Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan 2
Punch-Out!! (arcade)
Doc Louis' Punch-Out!!
Tingle's Balloon Fight DS
Last Window: The Secret of Cape West (for US players)
Freshly Picked Tingle's Rosy Rupeeland (^)
Another Code: R - A Journey Into Lost Memories (^)
Disaster: Day of Crisis (^)
Grill-Off With Ultra Hand
And other Japan-only/promotional/rare games!
I am Christina Aguilera
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To be perfectly clear: the North American VC release includes all 38 of the regular and promotional/special e-Reader levels that Japan got - go to Level Card and they're all unlocked and available at the same time, at once, the Japan-exclusive ones with fancy new English-language names.
The simultaneous multiplayer in the Mario Bros. Classic mode is not available. In SMB3 itself, you can start a save in "Mario & Luigi" mode and handle that like a two-player game with one controller. Mario and Luigi control a little differently (Luigi has the high-jump, low-traction thing), but you've got two sets of lives, two sets of items. It's basically SMB3 2 player mode without the battle segments and with a slightly different Luigi. Or one player can play both characters with the different play styles, whatever floats your boat.
Edit: Also FWIW, since this game came out so late in the life of the GBA, graphics aren't really brightened/made pale for the original GBA screen, so no worries about that. Color saturation looked great to me on the Gamepad and an SDTV.
The simultaneous multiplayer in the Mario Bros. Classic mode is not available. In SMB3 itself, you can start a save in "Mario & Luigi" mode and handle that like a two-player game with one controller. Mario and Luigi control a little differently (Luigi has the high-jump, low-traction thing), but you've got two sets of lives, two sets of items. It's basically SMB3 2 player mode without the battle segments and with a slightly different Luigi. Or one player can play both characters with the different play styles, whatever floats your boat.
Edit: Also FWIW, since this game came out so late in the life of the GBA, graphics aren't really brightened/made pale for the original GBA screen, so no worries about that. Color saturation looked great to me on the Gamepad and an SDTV.
Lord British
Member
This is kind of insanely amazing.
These levels are special. Very special.
These levels are special. Very special.
Tom Nook Sawyer
Member
Just watched the stream and those levels look awesome! It's a shame we had to wait so long to see them
38?? That's like half a whole new Mario game. I'm so excited for this.
Piston Hyundai
Member
Good to hear.
That being said, does it include the other e-Reader features, like being able to change the base game with things like vegetables, being able to use the Cape (!), and more modern Fire Flower rules (enemies turn into coins)?
A Link to the Past
Banned
Nope, unfortunately. What really sucks is that there was a Japanese-exclusive switch that made all enemies into more difficult enemies.
I am Christina Aguilera
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As far as I can tell, opening up the Lakitu screens for scanning other cards just errors out and says it can't find the e-Reader. How do the Toad houses get unlocked in World e? If you open those up by beating levels and getting e or A coins in the World e levels, then you can at least get the extra items from those.
This.
SuperChoco
Member
You can still do the two players on one map. You need to pass the controller though.
EDIT: To clarify, the Mario 3 portion can be played with two players, with each player taking a turn. The Mario Bros. portion can only be played with one player.
Impotaku
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Well, they did included B-Dash level in this release but with a different english name!!
At last our prayers were listened in order to be able to play that holy grail level
Ooh they added B dash? nice one
Makes it even more worthy of a purchase then for newcomers.
balladofwindfishes
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I am Christina Aguilera
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I'd be the first to complain about pale graphics or tinny, scratchy, or off music (example 1, example 2) in the Mario Advance series, but I can't say I have any beef with the SMW ghost house rendition here. It's just a trebley version of the SMW theme sequenced the same but with slightly different but not unfitting instruments.
Agent Unknown
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Got SMB4A today, as someone who spent quite a bit of money a few years ago buying and collecting all the complete sets of the American SMB 3 e-cards, having all of the U.S. e-levels plus the Japanese levels is a bargain and a huge bonus well worth the $7.99. Until now, emulated and region converted printable e-reader files were the only way to enjoy the Japanese stages on an American copy of the game. Also, as said before, "No Time to Dawdle" is based on "Mad Dash" which was an ultra rare e-card only available as a promo in Japanese manga shops, you couldn't even take the card home, the player was only allowed to scan it. Due to this, it was the only SMB 3 e-reader level which wasn't emulated and made available as a printable e-reader file like the other stages. It's a great little stage, I still haven't been able to get all 5 gold coins on it.
LuigiBlood
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Actually we managed to find someone who had the level in the save file and I released it as a Level Card. Too bad no one really noticed it.
Aaron Strife
Banned
Really? That doesn't sound too bad.
Agent Unknown
Member
Oh wow, hadn't caught that, excellent work.
Agent Unknown
Member
Yes, that's the only drawback to the VC port. Using things like the cape and turnips in SMB 3 stages is really fun.
Azure Dream
Member
It's a shame they left out the Cape, Boomerang, etc, but bringing back all the limited levels is pretty great.
This is why when people said, "Mario 2 Mechanics won't work in Mario Maker!" I thought, "But they already did it before..."
The levels got pretty nuts.
Yes, that's Mario Bros 3 with Mario Bros 2 Turnip pulling, with Mario World Charging Chucks. Makes Mario Maker look tame by comparison.
This is why when people said, "Mario 2 Mechanics won't work in Mario Maker!" I thought, "But they already did it before..."
Do you have a link for that? I'd like to scan it into my real game.
Yeah, I was expecting to see this kind of "mixing" on Super Mario Maker too. It would be great if they launch a patch with all the assets that are used in the e-reader levels from SMA4.
RadarScope1
Member
This is really great. I'm puzzled by the fact that some don't see the interest/value. It's more Mario 3, officially made by Nintendo designers, and previously locked away in an arcane format that few people purchased (and requires two GBAs to use). This is truly "from the vault" type stuff.
Don't have a Wii U but would definitely buy this if I did.
Don't have a Wii U but would definitely buy this if I did.
balladofwindfishes
Member
Whoa, Luigi feels crazy.
I don't remember him being this hard to control in Super Mario World Advance.
Also is it me, or do Mushrooms move the wrong direction? I thought they always move right, but in this game, they seem to always move left?
I don't remember him being this hard to control in Super Mario World Advance.
Also is it me, or do Mushrooms move the wrong direction? I thought they always move right, but in this game, they seem to always move left?
LegendofLex
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The direction they move is tied to the direction you're facing when you hit the block, IIRC.
Mega Man's Electric Sheep
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Mario 3 mushrooms always move differently depending on which edge of the question block you punch. The opposite of the edge you hit I believe.
Edit: Yup. Opposite. http://protipoftheday.com/node/200.html
entremet
Member
Yep. Not officially, but I have user-printed translated versions of the Japanese + rare US cards that actually scan plus a nearly complete genuine set of all US cards.
Together, they contain all of the levels.
I did a post on them with pictures a few months back in the Retrogaf Unite thread but can't link you right now because I'm on mobile.
SpeedBeatz
Member
Wait, doesn't the cart actually only fit 32(+1) levels though?
Correct. You have to rescan when you fill up all of the the slots.
They must've hacked the rom to not have this limitation.
Yes. Wish they did NES and N64. They're absolutely horrible.
Lupin the Third
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Sorry guys, but THIS is handily the worst song in the SMB3 GBA conversion:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8pr9UtOhFe4
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8pr9UtOhFe4
Emperor Bohe
Member
fucking e-reader levels. i am sold. i bought this game on GBA back when it 1st released for them, but then I never got an e-reader for some reason.
Absolutely horrible is kind of an overstatement. NES is pretty much a straight downgrade from Wii, unfortunately, but at least N64, despite the darker colors, has better IQ.
It is absolutely horrible; more so if we have to pay to 'upgrade'
It's not like the games are remotely near unplayable. The emulation isn't ideal, but under what criteria are they "absolutely horrible"? Hard to not see that as ridiculous hyperbole.