Rentahamster
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I doubt most of them are. At that age it's mostly influence from parents/teachers plus trying to fit in with what your friends are doing even if you don't understand why.
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I doubt most of them are. At that age it's mostly influence from parents/teachers plus trying to fit in with what your friends are doing even if you don't understand why.
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I don't see the influence from the quotes you posted.
Kind of reminds me of the worst of the Bush years. People voted Obama the first chance they had because they were fucking tired of Young Republicans shoving their warped notion of patriotism in their faces through high school.
The wheel gets reinvented every generation.
And all those black people that took photo ops with Trump in his office. I still shake my head at that.
StopMakingSense
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When I was in 7th and 8th grade we were doing speeches on political topics in my home room class.
This was during prop 187 in CA in San Diego county so fun times, let me tell you.
As I understand it, if you are referring to the leadership of the traditionally Black colleges, those folks actually were not there to see Trump. He showed up though so he could get that photo and quickly left. They were blindsided. At least that's what I've read here from others.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
You missed the part where his mom tells him what to say?
RPGCrazied
Member
Feel sorry for my nephews/nieces having to grow up during these times. When I as a kid I was watching TMNT and playing video games. Kind of hard to do now when the world is literally going to shit fast.
Who cares, at least they have a positive influence in their lives, you guys should celebrate that.
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
When you're woke AF and it's not even high school
It was the 2000 election when I was in 8th grade and I was into it. Mainly because I thought W was such a dumbass and the stories about his stupidity were funny to me. I could see kids being more into it nowadays than you'd think thanks to Trump's utter stupidity.
As far as kids being politically aware as someone who is still fairly young and who was even younger during bush, people being freaked out around you kinda gets you to investigate why people are freaked the fuck out
If that's true that kinda funny
If that's true that kinda funny
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
I don't doubt that some are. But those are the exception to the rule.
Getting guidance from your parents about what to say in a conflict situation isn't exactly the same thing. It seems the kids had the desire first.
Though I do agree with you that it's mostly parents and peers that influence them at that age. My 13 year old nephew is a huge Trump fan because his wealthy dad is. My Sister is just a school teacher that barely gets by and he mostly lives with her, and yet, he still favors Trump because his Dad does, He's the one that talks politics while my Sister does not.
But he seemed to have his own opinion on it before hand. He just didn't know how to do it politely. Nowhere did it seem like she's directly influencing his political opinions. I mean kids can be influenced obviously but I don't see it in what you posted.
SandwichMeat
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eh i was a kid through all the Bush years and still managed to fuck around constantly and distract my self from all the bad shit.
RPGCrazied
Member
I don't know how I'd cope having Trump supporters within my family. Wouldn't be pretty. Thankfully I don't.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
It's not the same thing, yes, but that one snippet of their presumably longer conversation suggests influence from the mom. If the kid's parents were hardcore Republicans, I might be more convinced that the kid is more of an independent thinker, but that still doesn't account for teachers or media.
Friend of Sonic
Member
Yeah. Same here. We didn't have super deep developed politics, but this is where you start and learn, and understand what the world is. We also had some deep discussions as teens about 9/11 as that was happening, some that wouldn't hold true but some surprisingly poignant.
Now i think of how well connected ideas are because of the internet, for better or for worse. While it is possible parental I influence is at play for some of these kids, I think it is unfair to label them all like that
Velcro Fly
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They could be old enough to vote in 2020
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
What a coincidence he seemed to have the same opinion about complicated issues that his mother also happens to have and who also told him how to say it to news reporters.
Trigonometrize.
Member
I'm sure a handful of them are not and have just been fed opinions by authority figures. In my experience as a former-eight grader, middle schoolers are interested enough to hold opinions on these things, but not enough to do independent research, critical thinking, and come to their own conclusions.
Can't say I'm not still happy to see it.
You inferring a whole lot without actually showing any proof. If all you got is what you posted then you're just making assumptions.
cooljeanius
Member
8th grade was about when I started becoming really politically aware
Whenever he's around I talk about how bad Trump is for America, minorities, the poor. He just thinks Trump is so awesome because he's rich and can throw his weight around really, but then my nephew is kind of a little shit at times so it makes sense in a way. But, he respects me so he listens. If I spent more time with him than his Dad I'm quite certain I could get him to stop admiring Trump. But I don't see him all that much.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
So are you.
Good on you to try to get your nephew a balanced viewpoint. I'd just advise to be careful how you did it since a misunderstanding might occur if his dad thinks you're trying to brainwash his kid, depending on how in the tank his dad is for Republicans.
No, this part:
Republican points of views are generally idiotic though, so standing up against them deserves praise each and every goddamn time.
😂 👌
I'm not making assumptions lol. I'm going by what I'm reading, that's it. You're the one talking about the quotes obviously being from a longer conversation that we can't see. And then you assume the mother's political affiliation and biases that we have no idea about. Like come on man.
Eh I don't really care and neither does my Sister. She'd laugh in her ex's face. Ideally I wouldn't strive for my nephew to have a balanced view because both sides are not the same and that's never been more true than now, under a Trump presidency, but, it is what it is. I just share with him how I feel and he can take it how he wants seeing as how he likes me a lot.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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His policies are trying to get a good deal of them or people they love killed, so who could blame them?
He tells his mom that he's not going to do it. She essentially says, "OK, just tell them politely."
I'm not seeing any political influence there at all.
Lord Frieza
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Guys, like three of you have replied to Rentahamster after he got banned lol. I know it's easy to overlook, though. Kind of weird that he got banned for this, but dude picks some really weird hills to die on.
When I responded to him, he wasn't banned. Life comes at you fast.
Turbo Killer
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If you want to have your picture taken next to a piece of shit just find the nearest toilet.
My shit is insulted sir or madam!
They are already better than millenials.
I mostly sub for 6-8 graders, and I have to say, they hate the Trump Administration. I mean, fucking HATE them. This is an overwhelming Democratic county, but still. The things I hear, boy oh boy.
And I heard a few talking about how terrible DeVos was. I was so happy hearing them discussing political figures.
EDIT: Ugh, for some reason I thought this was about Pence :-/
Eh, what it means to "respect" him is debatable, but I definitely don't think it includes having to be photographed with him.
And I heard a few talking about how terrible DeVos was. I was so happy hearing them discussing political figures.
EDIT: Ugh, for some reason I thought this was about Pence :-/
Eh, what it means to "respect" him is debatable, but I definitely don't think it includes having to be photographed with him.
theepicoftyler
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Dennis Hastert came to my middle school when I was in 7th grade and took a picture with my class. These kids that refused will be happy in 20 years when it comes out that Paul Ryan is a rapist pedophile.
Turbo Killer
Member
I respect the office of the president, I just don't respect the person currently in it. He is making the office into a fucking joke.
We can only hope. Hell, if can get people off their asses for midterms, it won't entirely be for nothing.
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