Wow. Thanks OP.
Wait, there's a story in KH2.... and people actually care about it?
I'm really not seeing how the kneejerk reactions are shitting on OP. They're not personally insulting him or anything.
OP was an ass to those players. Based on the OP replies, (s)he knew what (s)he was doing.
Philosophical question: Does it count as a spoiler if I've already beaten the game, but forgot about this scene, so in-turn, it's kind of been spoiled again?
Wait, there's a story in KH2.... and people actually care about it?
New title: (KH2 spoiler) intense event causes Mickey to throw off his cloak without unzipping it
Spoilers: RE:Chain of Memories
When you stop engaging with storytelling entertainment as exercises in pure plot, and shift your appreciation to other aspects of whatever art form you choose, particularly craftsmanship, spoilers hold very little sway over you.
For example, no one (at least I hope not) gets spoiled by music snippets. Your experience isn't ruined if you hear 15 seconds of a yet to be released album. On the contrary, your desire to listen to it might increase. This is because most people engage with music holistically, rather than assigning undue importance to any single note or bar or track. You can, though it requires practice, engage in fiction in the same way. Appreciate the gestalt, rather than miring yourself in minutiae.
Thinking back, I feel like LOST was where the whole spoiler obsession on the internet started. There was also some of that with the Star Wars prequels as well.
One of the big problems I have with excessive spoilerphobia is that it essentially idolizes pulpy "twists" and surprises in stories above things like themes, characterization, imagery, etc. Sure, there's nothing necessarily wrong with story twists, but to obsess excessively over the facts of the plot and the initial sensory experience is missing the forest for the trees. No great story has ever been great solely because of an unpredictable plot.
I mean, look at Oedipus Rex. That shit is like the Ancient Greece Game of Thrones, with the mother of all plot twists. And yet that very twist became so memetic that it's spoiled by a psychological theory. If the twist was all that mattered, people wouldn't still study Oedipus Rex in school. Who needs thematic depth and complex dramatic devices when you have PLOT TWISTS.
Your rationale is really that because there is so much stuff out there, what's the matter if you get some spoiled?
You are not entitled to an impermeable protective bubble against all story details you haven't yet experienced first-hand -- anywhere -- and such a position would be detrimental to effective moderation here.
I think it's context sensitive, yeah.Age isn't a sensical metric; cultural relevance (ie "I am you father") and common sense/courtesy is what dictates what should be spoiler-tagged or not
Ideally, one should always play it safe. How you feel about spoilers, if you care about them or not, if you feel people are to sensitive or not, doesn't really matter, because it isn't about you. You're basically deciding for others how they should experience something when you decide to not to spoiler-tag stuff
han dies in a car crash
I mean, this wasn't even kind of accurate when you posted it, but
it didn't even hold up for half an hour either way.
I thought Kylo killed him.
There is a hundred thousand times more story-driven content than you could ever plausibly consume in your lifetime, and more generated every second. What *is* the matter if some of it is "spoiled" for you? Spoiling does no harm to you in and of itself. The only reasonable personal concern about spoilers regards content you actually intend to consume, where the information revealed damages the experience you were hoping for.
Socially, considerations for your audience cannot realistically trend to "nothing can be spoiled," or life turns into a Key and Peele sketch. We rely on context and cues from cultural consciousness to determine what's acceptable in conversation.
A NeoGAF post can be tricky by comparison since any given post, or thread, will have thousands of diverse eyeballs on it, and we don't have the benefit of that real-world context, so we encourage (and in some cases, like currently airing TV show discussion threads, explicitly enforce) consideration about potentially spoiling others. However, this is a discussion forum, and without limits on what must be tip-toed around for the sake of an extreme edge case, we harm the capacity for and merit of discussion here.
You are not entitled to an impermeable protective bubble against all story details you haven't yet experienced first-hand -- anywhere -- and such a position would be detrimental to effective moderation here.
That's the mildest insult I've seen in this thread
I don't think anyone asked for this, though.
One of the dumbest and most inconsequential scenes in entertainment history sparked a giant discussion about spoiler culture.
That part of Return of the Jedi was pretty unexpected
Watch it come true in KH3.Omg these Goof Troop Star Wars pictures lmao.
so you did saw insults
Somewhere, there is a Dril tweet for this situation.
But does that mean you can spoil what happens to the Battlestar Galactica?Never seen it. Star Trek aint my jam really.
I would not assume such things about Kingdom Hearts. When Goofy died in KH2, his body was probably invaded by an alternate universe version of him. In this other universe, there would be a bloody conflict where the ill King Mickey's shady adviser, Xeavidanus, outlawed believing in friendship. The citizens revolted, but the military deployed an army of Goofies, mass-produced from cloning vats with upside-down black hearts on them. This conflict was dubbed la Guerre de la Gawrsh. When the KH2 Goofy died, his consciousness was swapped with one of those Goofy clones that also bit the dust at the exact same moment. This clone, who is revealed to be called Emptinoth, is spying on the gang and relays information to Malificent, whom he refers to as "Mommy". He starts doubting his mission throughout the course of KH3 though, as he slowly learns that friendship might be worth believing in after all.Because Goofy is in KH3's promotional materials!
This thread is a case study on it.
I've avoided watching anything kingdom Hearts related FOR THE LAST 12 YEARS OF MY LIFE so I could finally play this rererererelease on ps4, the only platform that runs the game at 60FPS.
Thank you for ruining my endurance run op!
Some good thoughts on spoilerphobia:
And my own thoughts:
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