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Bethesda has an embargo on announcing the FO4 review embargo, are you kidding me
- Thread starter BiggNife
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The legal and advertising industries came up with this, and trust me these practices are not only applied to the games industry. Welcome to 2015, GAF.
Broken or glitchy? These are different. No Bethesda game for me has been broken.
Chance Hale
Member
It's worth noting most Bethesda games have had a Monday before release embargo. Skyrim, Oblivion, etc. Unrelated from this silliness, but this is directed more towards people worried they're trying to hide something.
Of course you might have not liked either of those games, but that doesn't change that the embargo was the day before release and they were well reviewed.
Of course you might have not liked either of those games, but that doesn't change that the embargo was the day before release and they were well reviewed.
These are emotional arguments, rather than objective.
Bethesda launched a completely broken Skyrim on PS3 which was never fixed as well as consistent left over Gamebryo issues on their PC launches.
TheSlySoul
Member
The context seems as long as they do not say when they are posting the review, everything is fine. I heard the 11/9/15 embargo two days ago, so they are not first.
7DollarHagane
Banned
All of the bugs and issues exist but people love to make a big deal out of them like they weren't able to enjoy the game because an enemy fell into the ground or an npc got stuck walking into a wall.
I guess I grew up with janky early 3d games and I'm not very affected by it.
TemplaerDude
Member
Skyrim on the PS3, Fallout on the PS3. All broken. No one on here cares, though. Bethesda could launch babies into the sun and people on here would be all "derp de derp no one does what they do derp de derp".
old manatee
Banned
They know their game is piss poor.
Twenty7KVN
Member
Must be the same reason they didn't show much of the game until few days ago.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure I've heard of this happening before in one of Totalbiscuit's vlogs or streams or something.
In fact, I'm pretty sure I've heard Mr. Bloodworth talking about this in an old Invisible Walls before.
Like...when you couldn't disclose anything about the embargo or when a review would go up at all.
In fact, I'm pretty sure I've heard Mr. Bloodworth talking about this in an old Invisible Walls before.
Like...when you couldn't disclose anything about the embargo or when a review would go up at all.
Fotheringay
Member
Mods will fix it!
Kotaku wasn't part of the embargo, they were informed by someone who was. So whoever sent it to them technically broke embargo, but Kotaku did not.
lol Kutako
You really can't handle seeing a Fallout 4 thread and not shitting in it can you? Fallout 3 and Skyrim both had review embargos on the Monday before, it doesn't signify anything wrong with the game.
TheSlySoul
Member
There is your answer. I appreciate the reviewer emailing the picture because it amuses me.
Slammin_Hammon
Member
Oh man. The assumptions people are making in this thread are hilarious.
stufte
Member
? They showed a shit ton at E3 this year.
7DollarHagane
Banned
That ps3 skyrim issue existed in fallout 3 and oblivion as well. I would grant you that you should be cautious about the ps3 version of fallout 4, were it to exist.
What I'm saying is that was a ps3 issue with that engine. The 360 versions of all last gen Bethesda games worked fine with minor open world jank.
Rygar 8 Bit
Jaguar 64-bit
is this a teaser for the embargo of the embargo?
So they're allowing reviews to go up before release? I don't understand.
Marketing messages.
I didn't buy any Bethesda game for PS3. So what you say is factual but of no interest or impact to me. Yet again why would I not buy day one? They've done no wrong to me, in fact they've only done great.
They did a 20+ minute demo at E3. Does that not count?
Twenty7KVN
Member
And pretty much nothing after that.
lukeskymac
Member
Well, partially subjective.
I simply I don't get what would be the reason to withhold the date for the embargo from a business perspective. Like, are they afraid preorder numbers would drop if the embargo date is announced early?
PROh1bited
Banned
I just shake my head more at the reactions in this thread than the "embargo". Some people need to relax and take a chill pill.
I know, and I really hope more games follow suit. I usually feel oversaturated by everything before I even get to play it with the usual 2 year announcement to release. This has been damn refreshing.
7DollarHagane
Banned
Nobody cares now because the ps3 is not an issue for them any longer. There is zero reason to think those ps3 engine issues would carry over to pc/ps4/xb1 for fallout 4.
To try to act like you think it will carry over is either ignorant or just trying to be inflammatory.
You mean to say a publicly traded company that puts profits ahead of the consumer won't do that again?
CambriaRising
Member
Marketing and PR departments are full of control freaks.
My only guess is that they feel sites try to circumvent the review embargo by running major preview coverage to get clicks, which may spoil too much of the game and dilute the impact of the chorus of reviews all releasing at once since people will already have a large amount of previews to satiate their information desires.
Social media is king these days, getting a huge blowout of info at once is what you want.
This isn't a small game with low mass appeal or recognition. They'll get a lot of coverage no matter what so best to focus it into one big bang than attempt to build it up over time and run the risk of getting over shadowed by something else.
PR likes to control the information flow. They want the pop of sites announcing on Friday that reviews will hit Monday.
SkoomaSuckinSwit
Member
While I've never done it, I do believe Bethesda games are best served a year after release with the GotY releases, most bugs squashed & add-on DLC included.
I've double dipped a couple times with GotY versions - Morrowind, Oblivion, Fallout3.
I've double dipped a couple times with GotY versions - Morrowind, Oblivion, Fallout3.
jakonovski
Member
But when will then be now?
TemplaerDude
Member
It wasn't a PS3 issue, it was Bethesda issue with not properly optimizing their shitty, broken engine for use on a whole other console and telling that user base to go fuck themselves by releasing a bunch of bullshit patches, having the gall to tell them that it fixed the issues and get some good PR (it didn't fix shit).
The point is that this is a company that has a long history of lying, shipping unfinished, buggy or straight up broken products, expecting the community to fix it with mods and then lapping in riches because "no one else does what they do".
You choose to support that company. I do not.
I've seen PLENTY of people, most recently in the Fallout 4 threads but also in pretty much any Bethsoft thread, heap plenty of criticism on the Bethsoft for releasing broken games, among other things.
There are the apologists, sure, but to say "No one on here cares, though" is ridiculous. It gets so old seeing the thisisneogaf.gifs and generalizations of users on here. C'mon.
Kadin
Member
We really need to go deeper.
On a different note, has history shown us anything consistently with regards to reviews being embargoed right up until the last day? Are there any stellar games (rated very highly) that had embargoes like this?
7DollarHagane
Banned
I mean to say that they won't encounter issues getting their engine stable on ps3 hardware again.
Ascenion
Member
They are still pissed over that? Jeez that's a hell of a thing to hold a grudge over since that leak was 2 years ago almost and they were just doing their jobs technically. Let it go Bethesda.
Slammin_Hammon
Member
Because releasing broken games is the best way to maximize profits.
Plenty. It means nothing other than there's late patches or functionality, or merely just giving reviewers enough time.