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[dinoric]

US should have done preemptive strike on NK nuclear facility a long time ago. Both Obama and Bush should have done it and didn't because they didn't bother to pay the political capital to acquire a sanction from China.

America has no right too when there not even reducing their own nuclear weapons. You'd be ok then with another country striking a nuclear facility in america?

 

[Subitai]

How did the US feels in the Cuban missile crisis or what if China and Russia have bases in Mexico close to the US border?

I personally wouldn't be surprised if in 20~30 years China also creates its version of the Monroe doctrine.

They already have their own Monroe doctrine. Implementation isn't just claiming territory. It is making their neighbors so dependent on commerce that they'll reach a point where they can't politically dispute with the CCP or side with the US. The problem is their population is shrinking too fast to make this work over the next 20-30 years.

 

[TarNaru33]

America has no right too when there not even reducing their own nuclear weapons. You'd be ok then with another country striking a nuclear facility in america?

1. U.S had nukes since 1940s and the NPT wasn't effective until 1970 and when it became effective, it barred those who have not had nukes before that date from obtaining their own nuclear weapons.

2. U.S would benefit from everyone reducing and scrapping it's nuke stockpile more than anyone else.

3. U.S has been reducing their nuclear weapons... It will be 1500 nuclear weapons from a peak of 31K and Russia's at that same number from a peak of 45K. No country that has nukes are going to unilaterally get rid of all of them.

4. No country who doesn't have nukes now should be allowed to obtain it, end of story.

 

[Aztechnology]

1. U.S had nukes since 1940s and the NPT wasn't effective until 1970 and when it became effective, it barred those who have not had nukes before that date from obtaining their own nuclear weapons.

2. U.S would benefit from everyone reducing and scrapping it's nuke stockpile more than anyone else.

3. U.S has been reducing their nuclear weapons... It will be 1500 nuclear weapons from a peak of 31K and Russia's at that same number from a peak of 45K. No country that has nukes are going to unilaterally get rid of all of them.

4. No country who doesn't have nukes now should be allowed to obtain it, end of story.

I always wondered, what was the point in these superpowers ever having hundreds, much less thousands of Nukes? You could literally cripple the entire planet with a hundred or so of the highest yield nuclear weapons.

 

[PdotMichael]

1. U.S had nukes since 1940s and the NPT wasn't effective until 1970 and when it became effective, it barred those who have not had nukes before that date from obtaining their own nuclear weapons.

2. U.S would benefit from everyone reducing and scrapping it's nuke stockpile more than anyone else.

3. U.S has been reducing their nuclear weapons... It will be 1500 nuclear weapons from a peak of 31K and Russia's at that same number from a peak of 45K. No country that has nukes are going to unilaterally get rid of all of them.

4. No country who doesn't have nukes now should be allowed to obtain it, end of story.

NPT is pointless. If a country wants nuclear weapons they can just leave the NPT and call it a day.

 

[dragonelite]

I always wondered, what was the point in these superpowers ever having hundreds, much less thousands of Nukes? You could literally cripple the entire planet with a hundred or so of the highest yield nuclear weapons.

To overwhelm any missile defense system.

 

[Joni]

NK wouldn't attack first anyway (yes, I'm aware of the Guam stuff).

It isn't that they will attack but that they will stupidly hit something in a test.

 

[Coriolanus]

To overwhelm any missile defense system.

eh, sorta. There most likely wont ever be an attack where *only* missile nukes will be launched, and the payload will most likely consist of nukes and fucktons of regular missiles, so you can still overload any system either way.

 

[Journeywalker]

My position is that the west needs to stay the fuck away from other countries.

Nature abhors a vacuum. If the United States cedes a sphere of influence, China or Russia will quickly make the state dependent on its energy, arms, and financial support.

 

[TarNaru33]

NPT is pointless. If a country wants nuclear weapons they can just leave the NPT and call it a day.

So then you advocate for a stronger tie to the NPT? NPT is nice and all, but I believe ALL countries who isn't a signatory should be included in it and dealt with if they try to go against it.

I always wondered, what was the point in these superpowers ever having hundreds, much less thousands of Nukes? You could literally cripple the entire planet with a hundred or so of the highest yield nuclear weapons.

The funny thing is that 3000 nuke deployed is still enough to put civilization the brink if not outright destroy it. The nukes of today are much more powerful than the past ones and keeps being modernized.