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[Smooth Operator]

It's not gonna happen after this game bombs

This game will sell better than SFV. That's the whole point of dumbing down the game.

 

[『Inaba Resident』]

This game will sell better than SFV. That's the whole point of dumbing down the game.

Thats not exactly a high bar lol

 

[paolo11]

I want to know more of the mechanics now. Down down for dp?

 

[Blackage]

I can say this right now: DP inputs are gone. Ryu’s Shoryuken is done with a down, down motion.

Never before has a single statement about a video game completely and totally demolished my hype surrounding it.

 

[Seven Force]

In all fairness, easy controls have been an option in Vs. games since MSHvSF, even extending to the GC and Xbox versions of CvS2 and both TvC games.

Come to think of it, CvS2 EO had it's casual controls front and center.

 

[ev0]

The fans' die hard dedication has allowed us to make another Marvel game, for the fans

So we're going to make it completely different and not what those fans want

Dead Rising 4 is returning to the series' roots!

Here's a game only for people who don't like Dead Rising.


Its the Capcom way

 

[Space Runaway]

They're gonna copy KoF 14's mash punch into auto super aren't they.

 

[Zaverious]

.

 

[Sn4ke_911]

It's not gonna happen after this game bombs

Eh the FGC is just a small part of the consumers.

Lot's more will be happy the game is easier to play now.

People like me for example, i'm a casual and when i want to play this with friends drunk on a saturday night i don't want to spend half the night teaching them how to play the game.

But i do wish the game had some kind of hardcore mode for the FGC where it's harder to do shit.

 

[ElFly]

Ah, dp move gone in favor of down down

Good, good. Let the salt flow

 

[go_straight]

apparently they also want to make the game turn based like hearthstone.

 

[TreIII]

They're gonna copy KoF 14's mash punch into auto super aren't they.

Technically, I think that was something P4A popularized first.

 

[MoxManiac]

Do you guys think this "dumbing down" stuff is because of Capcom or Marvel (or both)?

 

[Makki]

This game will sell better than SFV. That's the whole point of dumbing down the game.

Casual gamers dont keep fighting games alive, thats a Smash phenomenon singularity.

 

[KingBroly]

The fans' die hard dedication has allowed us to make another Marvel game, for the fans

So we're going to make it completely different and not what those fans want

The Monkey's Paw is strong at Capcpom

 

[『Inaba Resident』]

Eh the FGC is just a small part of the consumers.

Lot's more will be happy the game is easier to play now.

My point still stands. Marvel 4 won't happen. It'll be called something else. Like Infinite 2 or some shit.

 

[Prism Sentence]

It put the people using old controls at a tremendous disadvantage

You have to wait and see how they're implemented to make that conclusion. Xrd has easy controls that make executing specials easier but gates you off from higher level execution due to the nature of the controls.

 

[Unspeakable Evil]

This game will sell better than SFV. That's the whole point of dumbing down the game.

Who truly knows? Everybody thought SFV would be more successful.

 

[Neonep]

They better not fuck up Devil May Cry with this same mentality

Edit: Oh, wait they already did.

 

[Space Runaway]

Technically, I think that was something P4A popularized first.

Oh yeah I forgot about that.

 

[Jawmuncher]

Do you guys think this "dumbing down" stuff is because of Capcom or Marvel (or both)?

Probably more marvel, but capcom probably doesn't mind. They don't want a SFV sales again

 

[Linkstrikesback]

I can say this right now: DP inputs are gone. Ryu’s Shoryuken is done with a down, down motion.

I've not really played a fighting game heavily in over a decade, and was considering buying this.

But if this is true, nah, forget it. That drops my chances of purchasing the game to near zero. Ah well.

 

[Zaverious]

Capcom all stars when

 

[Jawmuncher]

We have a marvel vs capcom games on Ps4 for those who want DP inputs.

It's called Marvel Vs Capcom 3

 

[onionfrog]

Some of you guys are gonna die when you hear about the control scheme/gameplay mechanics.

#casuals

Ryce, is there crossplay with PC?
Capcom plz

 

[Neonep]

Who truly knows? Everybody thought SFV would be more successful.

SFV wasn't as successful as it should of been because of the gameplay and controls, it wasn't successful due to lack of content.

 

[Ducktail]

I'm a mess at the moment... whyyyyyyy?! so we gonna go the smash bros route? Capcom please.

Yeah... wtf?

Also, will they be charging 60 dollars and going the seasonal route with DLCs character?

 

[Order]

I can say this right now: DP inputs are gone. Ryu’s Shoryuken is done with a down, down motion.

This is one of those things where we need to wait until the retail release before going crazy.

 

[LordKasual]

I can say this right now: DP inputs are gone. Ryu's Shoryuken is done with a down, down motion.

why are people taking this seriously

this is a joke right

what the fuck am i missing

 

[Trey]

Capcom all stars when

This September.

 

[Hazzuh]

Capcom still don't seem to understand that the best way to make a fighting game appeal to casual players is to have good single player content, not strip out all of the depth.

 

[Neonep]

We have a marvel vs capcom games on Ps4 for those who want DP inputs.

It's called Marvel Vs Capcom 3

This is what I like to call nonsense.

 

[Sn4ke_911]

why are people taking this seriously

this is a joke right

what the fuck am i missing

Ryce is a well trusted source, everything he says is true.

He wouldn't joke about stuff like this lol.

 

[NoctisVsStar]

Let's see if making easy to play actually keeps casuals around.

Talk about bad news.. Having the option there is fine but the whole standard core game based on it? Man, if I was combofiend i would literally be choking ppl at Capcom HQ

 

[Karsticles]

why are people taking this seriously

this is a joke right

what the fuck am i missing

He's serious, and he knows.

 

[CommandThrower]

Why? Did Easy Operation in the previous game stop people from playing the standard controls?

I don't understand.

I think what I'm getting at is that "easy operation" for this game seems to be the default motion option, where as traditional fighting game motions are optional? Normally, the "easy operation" mode was optional in fighting games, it wasn't the default. My mind's thinking "easy operation's the default, so why would you choose traditional motions if they're not the default option"? IDK, I'm tired.


There's a lot we still don't know, so we'll just have to wait and see.

 

[Jawmuncher]

This is what I like to call nonsense.

Making a joke about an old quote.

 

[Storm Chamber]

This is one of those things where we need to wait until the retail release before going crazy.

But my $60 hinges on that being true or not breh

 

[Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!]

You have to wait and see how they're implemented to make that conclusion. Xrd has easy controls that make executing specials easier but gates you off from higher level execution due to the nature of the controls.

Balancing two different sets of controls sounds ridiculously convoluted when they could have just used the same scheme that Street Fighter has had for over 25 years.

 

[KingBroly]

Do you guys think this "dumbing down" stuff is because of Capcom or Marvel (or both)?

I'm going to say Capcom because...

A - Street Fighter V was and is still a Massive Bust for them, being kept alive because of eSports outside of Japan (They don't even have it at Events in Japan & it's not in Arcades there)

B - They want to appease their Marvel Masters by dumbing it down to increase its' chances of selling while pissing off their hardcores who may play it for their Pro Tour


So...in my opinion, they're going to screw over the game's long-term eSports/Pro Tour style goals for a more short-term 'profitability' goal like you see with Netherrealm games, which may also backfire if they dumb it down too much.

 

[.la1n]

First reaction: CG/Graphics still look awful & trailer wasn't even an inkling as hype as previous series trailers. I'm concerned. Need to see game play. They picked the worst Chris Redfield iteration again.

 

[NoctisVsStar]

Yeah... wtf?

Also, will they be charging 60 dollars and going the seasonal route with DLCs character?

They'll be following the sfv model it seems.

 

[Neonep]

Capcom still don't seem to understand that the best way to make a fighting game appeal to casual players is to have good single player content, not strip out all of the depth.

Yeah, the goal should be to give beginners/casuals a fun and easy way to learn, understand, & play a game. Things such as a proper tutorial and and arcade mode.

 

[Kuriboi2k6]

I'll wait for the Ultimate edition. This is.. terribly underwhelming. And that's being nice

Will we ever see Marvel Vs Capcom 2 on the PS4 store??

 

[Neonep]

The roster better be good cause anything under 30 characters (15 each side) won't cut it at launch.

 

[TRUE ORDER]

If the changed the old inputs, I really hope the game has an option to change between them...

 

[Anth0ny]

SFV is a more casual version of SFIV though

 

[The Broken Ska Record]

I'll wait for the Ultimate edition. This is.. terribly underwhelming. And that's being nice

Will we ever see Marvel Vs Capcom 2 on the PS4 store??

There really doesn't seem to be a reason to have it on there with MvC3 and MvCI coming out. But I would like to be wrong.

 

[Storm Chamber]

The roster better be good cause anything under 30 characters (15 each side) won't cut it at launch.

I get the feeling we're getting 20

 

[NoctisVsStar]

I'll wait for the Ultimate edition. This is.. terribly underwhelming. And that's being nice

Will we ever see Marvel Vs Capcom 2 on the PS4 store??

They would have to renegotiate for that to happen. Must be complicated affair with characters owned by different companies but it's doable.. chances of happening? Low but not 0.