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Seller of Durango devkit says Durango info is old, compares to Orbis better
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Sounds unfocused and risky to me
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
Are those the same people rallying behind Windows 8?
Can Crusher
Banned
He provided Kotaku with Orbis dev kits specs recently, and is going to do the same with Durango apparently.
Yes.
But it really depends on how different the hardware is. If they are positioned in different markets, it can work.
In that sense that for example, one would be an Xbox tablet and the other a home console. That wouldn't create confusion because essentially, they are two completely different products.
Shrennin
Didn't get the memo regarding the 14th Amendment
While I can't speak for him or her, that's most likely the case. He or she is also most likely implying that Kotaku will leak the supposed new details regarding Durango's specs, which would theoretically explain why this source is suddenly so cryptic.
EDIT: And beaten.
He's their source for the last article they posted on Orbis and...
https://twitter.com/superDaE/status/293548728231550976
VGleaks is also posting bread crumbs when they have more info than what they are leading on.
He just posted that for Twitter.
VGleaks posts stuff for speculation & hits.
Do you mean "Don Quixote"s?
That's because the PS3 architecture was decided upon around the same time. The extra months had more to do with Bluray diodes limited availability and poor Cell yields...
Pristine_Condition
Member
I'm not saying they'll abandon the hobby or the industry. Read my post again. I never even remotely suggested that.
But core gamers will abandon a console maker in a heartbeat. Ask Atari. Ask Sega. Ask Nintendo. Ask Sony. Ask AMD. Ask Nvidia. Brand loyalty among core gamers is pretty low.
We ARE a fickle bunch. But we have every right to be. We pay the most $$$.
If you bothered to understand a post before commenting, maybe you wouldn't find yourself asking "What the fuck am I reading?" so often.
Xenon
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Commanche Raisin Toast
Member
the interesting thing about his supposed knowledge on Orbis is that he "had access to" that document, but only decided to tell kotaku some small snippets of info. you'd think in a 90 page pdf we'd get something juicer than what he gave them.
we also don't know if sony REALLY DOES plan on giving out final kits this summer, which too, could be better than the specs that will supposedly get leaked to kotaku and be Durango's final specs. their could be a contingency plan for if MS bumped up Durango.
this is all so silly.
we also don't know if sony REALLY DOES plan on giving out final kits this summer, which too, could be better than the specs that will supposedly get leaked to kotaku and be Durango's final specs. their could be a contingency plan for if MS bumped up Durango.
this is all so silly.
Pristine_Condition
Member
This is silly talk to me. If you get a free XBox or can get one for super-cheap with your TV subscription, and there are good games for it, you're still gonna say "oh no thanks...I only care about MAX SPECZ0RZ, I'll stick to the crappy dumb DVR you usually only provide for old people!" for real?
If you are a gamer that hung up about specs, you should probably be in the PC-only camp.
Next Gen Cold War.
Uno Venova
Banned
iamvin22
Industry Verified
plus a huge fine. this isnt like stealing candy. your pretty much 86'd from the industry. ms games division would let all its partners and competitors in the industry know about this guy.
SneakyStephan
Banned
So your logic is to piss off the core gamer, that is the certain road to profit, assuring the 'fickle' core goes elsewhere.
Trying to go after a billion ADD casuals who go 'ooh shiney' hoping to gather up enough of them for long enough before they wander off when a glint in the corner of their eye distracts them seems right up the 'modern business' ideas of quarterly figures and investor/stock speculation though... The grab and run mentality that is ruining everything that is good.
I guess whomever is in charge of MS atm is happy to let their successors pick up the pieces and try to get the core back after they are done with their little quarterly bonus grabs.
Truely an admirable way of life and their contributions to society make it all worthwhile in the long run.
Seriously, it's mind blowing that any gamer or consumer would cheer this kind of shit on.
@ xenon, damn that is some elegant damage control
Americans...
Over here in europe (and the rest of the world) DVR/cable/sattelite isn't that big. Hell my country (belgium, not exactly third world eh) doesn't even have anything like netflix or redbox and people don't buy their phones on stupid 2 year plans in general, we also don't have cashback and all that nonsense.
All this DVR shit isn't even worth a bulletpoint on the back of the box over here. I don't know if people in Japan would give a fuck.
America isn't the world, your lack of perspective is annoying. Unless you think MS doesn't just want to alienate the core but also a whole bunch of other countries.
Oh and I do have a gaming pc which is where I get most of my gaming done, there are still some neat games on the consoles that I can't get on pc (and vice versa) so I've always owned one or to consoles on the side.
Jake Tower
Banned
Not signing the rapetime cable contract/XBL commitment so I can have access to multiplayer and apps that are free everywhere else.
Or more directly: I'm not looking for a set-top box, all-in-one entertainment hub. I'm looking for a gaming console to play games, a console designed with that purpose foremost. That's the market I'm in. Not the one with Apple TV, Comcast, etc.
gundamkyoukai
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He post dev kits specs for Orbis which really don't mean much since the PS4 won't be using anything like that .
It all about final system specs ( expect for clocks speed) for both MS and Sony i could care less what the dev kits have in them .
FatalMuzza
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Because after 1month of complementary gold live, a million people will lay down a further $60
Commanche Raisin Toast
Member
seriously.
and we all know that he's going to wait until feb 20 before he reveals "the final specs" of Durango so he can just one-up whatever is disclosed at the PS event. (if anything) if not, he'll just one-up whatever the latest RUMORED specs of Orbis are.
everything is still rumor at this point. the only thing that's confirmed at this point is nextgen consoles being out AT LEAST by 2014 per the Witcher 3 thread.
James Sawyer Ford
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We're probably not going to have this power discrepancy resolved until we see third party games running on both platforms, where it could be fairly cut and dry (one platform always running at better framerate and/or resolution/effects), or it could be a lot more muddled with some ports looking better on one platform and vice versa.
Either way, I think Durango and Orbis are within the same ballpark of power for what constitutes "next-gen" in my view (Wii U doesn't). Orbis could end up being as stated, with a significant advantage.
But in my view, next-gen more than ever is going to be less about power so much as it will about developer talent, resources, and budget.
These systems will both be immense upgrades over the prior gen, and with all that power at their disposal we will get games that look like 1080p ports of current-gen games, and at the other end of the spectrum we will have the extremely talented studios that put current PC titles running on more powerful rigs than PS4/720 to absolute shame. It will take a LOT of effort to really show what these consoles are capable of, and it will separate lesser studios from the all-stars.
Either way, I think Durango and Orbis are within the same ballpark of power for what constitutes "next-gen" in my view (Wii U doesn't). Orbis could end up being as stated, with a significant advantage.
But in my view, next-gen more than ever is going to be less about power so much as it will about developer talent, resources, and budget.
These systems will both be immense upgrades over the prior gen, and with all that power at their disposal we will get games that look like 1080p ports of current-gen games, and at the other end of the spectrum we will have the extremely talented studios that put current PC titles running on more powerful rigs than PS4/720 to absolute shame. It will take a LOT of effort to really show what these consoles are capable of, and it will separate lesser studios from the all-stars.
A lot more successful than PS Vita.
Great post.
I get the hunch from the conversation that he's not talking about specs, he's talking about games. They're talking about how investors want them to focus on Apple/Google and apps, implying there's a much less focus on games, and how that would be a turn off for him.
Jake Tower
Banned
Accurate.
Exactly, so people should understand why he isn't talking any specifics.
Xenon
Member
So does that make Nintendo Cuba?
FatalMuzza
Banned
Aren't the specs on Durango GPU leading to a tiled rendering approach with everything fitting nicely down from the cache to the esram? Just like PowerVr? This leads to immense efficiency eliminating any concerns for lower DDR3 bandwidth. If indeed true, coupled with twice the RAM, the xbox3 could indeed be the more capable system with PS4 being the down port system yet again.
As would I, after all one of the first things superdae said about this gen was that the dev kits would be intel CPUs with nvidia GPUs bit off the mark there
I trust lherre too... But his current statements aren't lining up with the specs we have now.
And as I stated before, he has seen Orbis current specs prior to the info revealed.
Right now there is an obvious performance gulf.
Heh.
Well don't believe anything. It's what i've decided on anyway.
Sony's Secret Sauce
Holy crap. Bwahaha
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
I don't believe there are next gen consoles.
To be fair, popular belief is that was canonical to what Microsoft actually sent devs for the first kits.
Can Crusher
Banned
I believe early kits did in fact have intel xeons. It's possible they had Nvidia cards too.
So there's nothing there to hold against him.
Next gen is so last gen.
My head explodes. I see you haven't played PS3. I'll make a vid of the first party titles and then put in GOW Ascension for the oh la la effect.
Lets see hmm
You had no wifi
no hdmi
no optical out
anything else you want me to add? Also please don't mention hardware because the games on PS3 prove you wrong. These threads hurt the brain. So much damage control and denial.
Im off to bed.
gundamkyoukai
Member
I don't even understand why people care about dev kits specs.
Unless he tell us something about final systems specs his info don't mean much .
If you look at the info he gave out about orbis it's really don't tell us anything .
Unless he tell us something about final systems specs his info don't mean much .
If you look at the info he gave out about orbis it's really don't tell us anything .
IrishNinja
Member
poor SDF...seriously though, that crab is the best logo, they should've used that since launch
I guess all that denial gave him a headache.
Can you clarify what you mean?
Jake Tower
Banned
iceatcs
Junior Member
Yeah it is a cool logo, remind me of space invade.
Is it SDF actually made by other general game blog?
I remember there was investigation archive or thread about SDF was actually fantasy made by someone who not really a fan doing for laugh. Same person who made the video of fake sony fans army marching.
Quite funny and scary how much he obsessed about fanboy.
Demoncarnotaur
Member
So we are playing the ping pong game of what system is more powerful again? I literally don't know what to believe anymore.. I wish both would wind up the same tbh, gamers would win.
Amazing. :lol
Too bad we can't have animated Avis anymore
Amazing. :lol
Both systems being a wash in power.
Current specs of Orbis & Durango aren't pointing to this at all. If he already knew Orbis specs beforehand... Why would he state that?
Edge rumor then says PS4 is slightly more powerful.
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