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Trump picks anti-LGBT hate group to run domestic policy transition

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wachie

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Remember guys, keep an open mind. Shutting down the opposing opinion will create an echo chamber.

Now for unity, just bend over and take it.

:*(
 
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Abhor

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George Washington said:
At first I was optimistic but I've been living in denial; it was a false hope. I said I would wait until his actions to reach a conclusion.

The LGBT community is fucked under Trump's administration. Minorities are fucked under Trump just as well. It will only get worse now that he has power (House & Senate).

I hope the States (and people) that voted for Hillary will fight back.

Edit:

Tried to be optimistic given the outcome (which was truly baseless).
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Being optimistic is not a bad thing in-and-of itself, but sadly I can't help but be entirely pessimistic in a world where Trump administration is a thing.
 
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Silver Arrows

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Mr. X said:
But this is democracy, people voted and the majority wants this. We must respect it! We must educate them how this affects people!

/s
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Ekai said:
It's even more tragic since the majority didn't even want this.
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Mr. X said:
Insert defeatist bullshit about trying again in 2018 and 2020 because democracy.
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Pretty much explained all the Trumpers and supposed 'white moderates' views in three posts.
 
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George Washington

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DNAbro said:
We aren't just going to lay down and take it. I'm not optimistic in a bright happy 4 years but I feel like I should be more politically active than ever before to help as many as possible.
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No one should lay down and take it. You will always have people trying to take away personal rights of others.

In every case, they were fought for -through resilience, persistence, protests, civil disobedience, and political action.

Get active, be a voice, and for the love of God, vote!
 
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PastorOfMuppets

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Everyone is just overreacting. People acting like the Trump Administration has a bunch of high ranking officials who believe in gay conversion therapy or something. /s
 
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Owzers

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We need to give hate groups a chance, keep an open mind. Maybe they don't believe the things they've said and done.
 
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NHarmonic.

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Fuck this, how much do LGBT people have to suffer?

I fear for all the LGBT youth already, really hope this new climate doesn't increases the suicide rates and the assaults/harassment...
 
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RDreamer

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NHarmonic. said:
Fuck this, how much do LGBT people have to suffer?

I fear for all the LGBT youth already, really hope this new climate doesn't increases the suicide rates and the assaults/harassment...
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It already has, unfortunately. If you haven't already, check out the thread on Trans Line and donate if you can.
 
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Kinsei

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NHarmonic. said:
Fuck this, how much do LGBT people have to suffer?

I fear for all the LGBT youth already, really hope this new climate doesn't increases the suicide rates and the assaults/harassment...
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Multiple LGBT people have already killed themselves because of Trumps win and harassment is increasing.
 
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Jobbs

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The ray of hope is based on the idea that any political action or policy creates a proportionate reaction. All if the horrible things he's likely to do will lead to a much brighter 2020... I just wish I didn't have to wait. I'll be so old by then.
 
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Glix

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xxracerxx said:
Why do the GAF Trump supporters avoid these threads?
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So imagine you are on a lifeboat. There are two people in the water but you wont let them in your boat because you are afraid of capsize.

You gonna watch em drown or turn the other way?
 
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Squalor

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Glix said:
So imagine you are on a lifeboat. There are two people in the water but you wont let them in your boat because you are afraid of capsize.

You gonna watch em drown or turn the other way?
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What are you talking about?

Trump supporters push them down just to make sure.
 
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stupei

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Pagusas said:
Because people are reacting that way?? I voted for Clinton, I'm very sad by this turn of events, it doesnt mean I cant point out how I'm seeing similar "not my president" reactions from the left as I did from the right in 2008. Doesnt mean they arent right, but also doesnt mean it shouldnt be pointed out.
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azyless said:
Similar reactions, very different reasons. This comparison is dishonest at best.
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Actually, I would say the problem with the comparison comes from not pointing out that the reactions are for precisely the same reason.

Because a lot of anti Obama people might have felt genuine fear for their lives in 2008 but that is because a lot of white people hate and fear black people. *

And now a great many anti Trump people fear for their lives in 2016 but that is yet again because a lot of white people hate and fear black people.

* black, latino, Muslim, immigrant, feminist, gay, trans, non-white, Jewish, et al (ie difference)
 
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CitizenCope

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That's it I need a long break from Off topic and news sights. This is getting too much to handle.

Off to watch kitten videos for a month.
 
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Cipherr

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cordy said:
Niggas really think that they're going to allow some anti-LBGT shit go down simply because this man. Yall know damn well the moment anything like that happens the hammer comes down in the greatest way. This is America and no matter what they do, anything negative to minorities and the LBGT community, Muslims, that will blow up in their faces like some Looney Tunes Acme shit. Trump ain't stupid. He became president without ever being in office. Hell he wasn't even class president. A stupid man can't do that. He's strategic as hell. If anything, I see this other guy's anti-policies not going through and Trump shutting them down to say "see, I'm not a bad guy y'all, I won't let him do that" or something like that but even so, we all know this ain't going through. Maybe I'm a different individual, maybe I'm too optimistic. Even though I'm a Southern black man in his late 20s there's never been any time in America that I've felt like I couldn't do what I wanted to do even become president and this is before Barack. This doesn't bring me down because immediately upon reading I thought "lol, not gonna happen buddy".

Still, maybe I'm too optimistic but I have great faith in those who live in our country to believe that the moment anything like this happens we'll repel it. That's just how it is. People are so sure about everything like they were sure Hillary was going to win and we saw how that turned out. Idk, maybe I'm a different individual.

And no, I did not vote Trump. I voted for Hillary so stop that before you say it.
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SMH. The naivete on display here is insane. We just take everything for granted and have this "It can't happen to us" mentality that ignores the atrocities of the past in this country.
 
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7DollarHagane

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From Wikipedia:

A shooting incident outside the FRC headquarters in 2012 (see below) prompted further comments on the SPLC's 'hate group' listing. Dana Milbank, columnist for the Washington Post, referred to the incident as "a madman's act" for which the SPLC should not be blamed, but called its classication of the FRC as a hate group "reckless" and said that "it's absurd to put the group, as the law center does, in the same category as Aryan Nations, Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, Stormfront and the Westboro Baptist Church."[17] Tufts University political science professor Jeffrey Berry described himself as "not comfortable" with the designation: "There's probably some things that have been said by one or two individuals that qualify as hate speech. But overall, it's not seen as a hate group."[18]
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So one or two crazies at the organization said nonsense equating homosecuality to paedophilia and the whole organization got labeled as a hate group. Sounds reasonable.

Btw this labeling caused another crazy person to show up at their offices with intent to murder staffers in 2012.

They are no friends of LBGTQ groups but hate group is a stretch.
 
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DNAbro

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7DollarHagane said:
From Wikipedia:



So one or two crazies at the organization said nonsense equating homosecuality to paedophilia and the whole organization got labeled as a hate group. Sounds reasonable.

Btw this labeling caused another crazy person to show up at their offices with intent to murder staffers in 2012.

They are no friends of LBGTQ groups but hate group is a stretch.
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The reality is, homosexuals have entered the Scouts in the past for predatory purposes.”
– FRC vice president Rob Schwarzwalder, on radio’s “The Janet Mefferd Show,” Feb. 1, 2013.

“[H]omosexual activists vehemently reject the evidence which suggests that homosexual men … are … relative to their numbers, more likely to engage in such actions [childhood sexual abuse] than are heterosexual men.”
– Peter Sprigg, Senior Fellow for Policy Studies at FRC, on why the Boy Scouts should not allow LGBT Scouts or leaders, FRC blog, February 1, 2013.

“The videos are titled 'It Gets Better.' They are aimed at persuading kids that although they'll face struggles and perhaps bullying for 'coming out' as homosexual (or transgendered or some other perversion), life will get better. …It's disgusting. And it's part of a concerted effort to persuade kids that homosexuality is okay and actually to recruit them into that lifestyle."
— Tony Perkins, FRC fundraising letter, August 2011

"Those who understand the homosexual community—the activists—they're very aggressive, they're—everything they accuse us of they are in triplicate. They're intolerant, they're hateful, vile, they're spiteful. .... To me, that is the height of hatred, to be silent when we know there are individuals that are engaged in activity, behavior, and an agenda that will destroy them and our nation."
— Tony Perkins, Speaking to the Oak Initiative Summit, April 2011

"We believe the evidence shows … that relative to the size of their population, homosexual men are more likely to engage in child sexual abuse than are heterosexual men."
— Peter Sprigg, "Debating Homosexuality: Understanding Two Views." 2011.

“While activists like to claim that pedophilia is a completely distinct orientation from homosexuality, evidence shows a disproportionate overlap between the two. … It is a homosexual problem.”

— FRC President Tony Perkins, FRC website, 2010

“[W]elcoming open homosexuality in the military would clearly damage the readiness and effectiveness of the force – in part because it would increase the already serious problem of homosexual assault in the military.”
— Peter Sprigg, “Homosexual Assault in the Military," 2010

"A little-reported fact is that homosexual and lesbian relationships are far more violent than are traditional married households."
-- Timothy Dailey, FRC publication, "Homosexual Parenting: Placing Children at Risk," 2002

“Gaining access to children has been a long-term goal of the homosexual movement.”
— Robert Knight, FRC director of cultural studies, and Frank York, 1999

“[Homosexuality] … embodies a deep-seated hatred against true religion.”
— Steven Schwalm, FRC senior writer and analyst, in “Desecrating Corpus Christi,” 1999

"One of the primary goals of the homosexual rights movement is to abolish all age of consent laws and to eventually recognize pedophiles as the 'prophets' of a new sexual order."
—1999 FRC publication, "Homosexual Behavior and Pedophilia," Robert Knight and Frank York

In March 2008, Sprigg responded to a question about uniting gay partners during immigration by saying, “I would much prefer to export homosexuals from the United States than import them.” He later apologized, but in February 2009, he told Chris Matthews, “I think there would be a place for criminal sanctions on homosexual behavior.” “So we should outlaw gay behavior?” Matthews asked. “Yes,” Sprigg replied.

The group has also waded into the debate over anti-bullying policies, which became a matter of national debate after several gay students committed suicide in late 2010. On Oct. 11, 2010, Perkins managed to get the Washington Post to run his op-ed, in which he reiterated his point that anti-bullying policies are not really intended by their supporters to protect students. “Homosexual activist groups like GLSEN [Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network] … are exploiting these tragedies to push their agenda of demanding not only tolerance of homosexual individuals, but active affirmation of homosexual conduct and their efforts to redefine the family.”
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I think "hate" is a good word for what they spread.
 
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Alienfan

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7DollarHagane said:
From Wikipedia:



So one or two crazies at the organization said nonsense equating homosecuality to paedophilia and the whole organization got labeled as a hate group. Sounds reasonable.

Btw this labeling caused another crazy person to show up at their offices with intent to murder staffers in 2012.

They are no friends of LBGTQ groups but hate group is a stretch.
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I dunno, did you read their statements on homosexuality or what their companies beliefs are? They're a hate group.

It's not even just gay marriage they are against, but also same-sex civil unions, LGBT adoption, stem-cell research and abortion.
 
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Lime

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7DollarHagane said:
From Wikipedia:



So one or two crazies at the organization said nonsense equating homosecuality to paedophilia and the whole organization got labeled as a hate group. Sounds reasonable.

Btw this labeling caused another crazy person to show up at their offices with intent to murder staffers in 2012.

They are no friends of LBGTQ groups but hate group is a stretch.
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From wikipedia->

The FRC opposes and lobbies against same-sex marriage, same-sex civil unions, LGBT adoption, abortion, divorce, embryonic stem-cell research and pornography. The FRC is affiliated with a 501(c)(4) lobbying PAC known as FRC Action
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Hate group indeed.
 
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NHarmonic.

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Squalor said:
You consigned his bigotry.

Never forget.

And so many LOLs at "economy."
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I'm still amazed at people believing this turd will fix economy, and help the middle class.
It's completely irrational. And that's not even considering the quality of a person Trump is and how he's handled his own companies. The guy is just not qualified in any sense...


Lately i can't seem to stop thinking about what an example this shit show has been, i'd have never thought usa would chose a president that, i.e "grabs them by the pussy", or that's shown so much racism and xenophobia (and that will now shit on LGBTQ progress). The poor children that will grow up with this orange clown as a referent... It's unbelievable.

45th elect president.
 
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BamfMeat

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7DollarHagane said:
From Wikipedia:



So one or two crazies at the organization said nonsense equating homosecuality to paedophilia and the whole organization got labeled as a hate group. Sounds reasonable.

Btw this labeling caused another crazy person to show up at their offices with intent to murder staffers in 2012.

They are no friends of LBGTQ groups but hate group is a stretch.
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Wah? I mean, what? No, literally, what?

I mean, I might get banned for posting this, but...

http://www.frc.org/homosexuality

Family Research Council believes that homosexual conduct is harmful to the persons who engage in it and to society at large, and can never be affirmed. It is by definition unnatural, and as such is associated with negative physical and psychological health effects. While the origins of same-sex attractions may be complex, there is no convincing evidence that a homosexual identity is ever something genetic or inborn. We oppose the vigorous efforts of homosexual activists to demand that homosexuality be accepted as equivalent to heterosexuality in law, in the media, and in schools. Attempts to join two men or two women in "marriage" constitute a radical redefinition and falsification of the institution, and FRC supports state and federal constitutional amendments to prevent such redefinition by courts or legislatures. Sympathy must be extended to those who struggle with unwanted same-sex attractions, and every effort should be made to assist such persons to overcome those attractions, as many already have.
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OK Fine, they don't equate homosexuality with pedophelia right there, but are you seriously saying that this specific paragraph alone isn't enough to be considered a hate group?


Also, haven't checked the rest of off-topic yet, but my coworker just came over to me and said "Trump appointed Peter Thiel to his transition group. That means he can't be homophobic". What? I mean.. What? And he's normally super fucking smart!
 
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pestul

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I hate to say this guys.. but this is definitely part of how they want to 'make America great again'. A huge step back.
 
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MUnited83

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7DollarHagane said:
From Wikipedia:



So one or two crazies at the organization said nonsense equating homosecuality to paedophilia and the whole organization got labeled as a hate group. Sounds reasonable.

Btw this labeling caused another crazy person to show up at their offices with intent to murder staffers in 2012.

They are no friends of LBGTQ groups but hate group is a stretch.
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What a quality wikipediaing you got there
They're a fucking hate group. Just look at all the fucking shit they've said and done.
 
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Ekai

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Mr. X said:
Insert defeatist bullshit about trying again in 2018 and 2020 because democracy.
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Nah, democracy is dead, Republicans have killed it with all of their voter suppression and intimidation. We live in what amounts to a fascist dictatorship now.
 
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Sai-kun

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7DollarHagane said:
From Wikipedia:



So one or two crazies at the organization said nonsense equating homosecuality to paedophilia and the whole organization got labeled as a hate group. Sounds reasonable.

Btw this labeling caused another crazy person to show up at their offices with intent to murder staffers in 2012.

They are no friends of LBGTQ groups but hate group is a stretch.
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why are you interested in whether or not they're a hate group?
 
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