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Geometric-Crusher
"Nintendo games are like indies, and worth at most $19" 🤡
Can we expect an open architecture Xbox similar to the Steam Machines model? would it be impossible ? in your opinion of course
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
No clue honestly
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
HeisenbergFX4
w/ what you've heard are we talking a home console, or a lame portable deal? (FUCK YO PORTABLES)
Geometric-Crusher
"Nintendo games are like indies, and worth at most $19" 🤡
imo everything at the moment points to a Microsoft Machine, Microsoft outsources to companies like Digital Storm and only the Microsoft Machine made by Microsoft would be called Xbox Edition, this would be the most powerful using some Nvidia RTX.
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BlackTron
Gold Member
So I guess it's most powerful for contractual reasons?
Geometric-Crusher
"Nintendo games are like indies, and worth at most $19" 🤡
Think of it as just a chain link like a Nintendo Switch, see we call 'hybrid' something that in practice is the materialization of the death of traditional Nintendo consoles. Microsoft wants to do the same by merging xbox with PC, having the most powerful Microsoft Machine as a reference just so that people change the name PC Gaming to Microsoft Gaming, everything will be exactly as it is today only this name (PC Gaming) tends to be changed killing xbox in the process.
This is just an opinion based on all these rumors, this is a possible conclusion.
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squarealex
Member
Dorfdad
Gold Member
Dirty old manFor me...
You know you can’t wait that long and will be playing it on ps5 Pro like the rest of us!
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
They are on track to do both
(FUCK YO PORTABLES)
Is there any possibility that their next console will support physical media?
Unrivaledx88
Member
Good for those who are Xbox fans, I’m not interested in a console with not many releases
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
MayauMiao
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avin
Member
Let's say it's 1K for a Nextbox, that's unlikely to be upgradeable, and MS may also want Nextbox owners to pay for internet access the way console types do.
I cannot imagine choosing this over a PC, but let's wait and see. Maybe I'll change my mind when I see it.
avin
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Without a doubt we are in an era where the best place to play is on PC, I am in no way arguing against that
Just having talked to some of my Xbox only gamer friends and some will still buy that higher end Xbox/PC and wont switch to full on PC gaming
I have seen a few people here say the same thing
Some may not understand but I guess they don’t have to
It is what it is
bitbydeath
Gold Member
It’s been announced already.
KOJIMA PRODUCTIONS AND A24 TEAM UP TO ADAPT DEATH STRANDING | Kojima Productions
Kojima Productions
Edit: I should add that the majority of the list has since transpired.
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mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
And keep in mind guys...... this year's leaks are to push back on the PS5 Pro release and good news. So this makes sense.
ZehDon
Member
I'm curious to see how Microsoft's "all in" on AI shakes out in their next gaming machines. When Microsoft went heavy on the subscription models, they created Game Pass. That's been a wild ride. NVidia's DLSS has well and truly proven itself, but I'm curious if Microsoft's flirting with their own chips has etched out some other interesting uses for AI in addition to image reconstruction. Could be interesting, or maybe I'm just nostalgic for the days when consoles weren't merely recombinations of identical parts in different coloured boxes.
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Geometric-Crusher
"Nintendo games are like indies, and worth at most $19" 🤡
Cod on Gamepass now, it was a mistake, they could use it as a new factor for the next one. So there is still someone very proud trying to save the doomed Xbox Series
MasterCornholio
Member
So it means a FUD campaign to stop the PS5 Pro from selling? That didn't stop the PS4 from existing so I don't see how they can hurt the Pro.
THE DUCK
Banned
Well there is some interesting stuff floating around about ai rendering a scene as you would see it in real time, creating huge savings on gpu and drawing the scene more realistically overall. But the question is, how far are from ai being able to do this 60 times in one second?
ZehDon
Member
Microsoft's designs would largely be cemented at this point. If it's still theoretical, it's not in their console.
What I imagine we'll see is a dedicated NPU, open for developers to utilise, but with baked in options as part of the SDK. Xbox's own image reconstruction, for example. However, I imagine things like AI-powered culling determination, path finding, or asset decompression could also be provided. Those types of advances would give you their "biggest leap ever" because they allow hardware to punch well over its on-paper specs. If you can't squeeze more transistors into the box, then you have to find a way to let the transistors you have be more efficient. Using AI to short-cut taxing aspects of a game loop frees time for more CPU and/or GPU work per frame.
Geometric-Crusher
"Nintendo games are like indies, and worth at most $19" 🤡
new consoles are always an attraction, they always generate good debates
Dorfdad
Gold Member
its not hard to envision a portable 1080p OLED 8inch screen XBOX that can play games locally with 720 DLSS to 1080p on the go, and a Console "DOCK" that you plug it into at home with a dedicated GPU and some other bells and whistles to elevate it to a true gaming powerhouse. IF were talking Late 2026 release they probably are AMD Zen 5, 24GB ram, and an AMD Descrete GPU allowing 4k/120 but if its a 2026 release they are going to have to shoot for some kind of 8K offering as PS6 will definitely be using that for brownie points even though no one cares about 8K yet. I'll take a full gen of 4K / 120 / 240 first before we jump to 8k nonsense.
pasterpl
Member
Why not, its sort of recognisable already. They invested in building this brand and it connects directly with gaming.
on the other hand, just wondering if this all means that MS will switch to more frequent hardware releases (Which I am a fan of, imo. Console gen should last max 4 years, be fully cross gen and have upgradable components for these who doesn’t want brand new box).
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
So do you think that portable will be their "next-gen" system? Or just a handheld version of the Xbox Series X?
Bogroll
Likes moldy games
Then it would have been the continuous rumours of is going on or not. Get it on there now so the info is out there now and could influence the purchasing decision of those of who it interests.
And as for the new factor, that mostly went out the window this gen and will happen again next gen.
Dorfdad
Gold Member
I like others believe two systems. The handheld will be more In line with a series s than an X due to it being portable.
And a full console like experience with another system however it will be more like a hybrid pc imho.
I think they should just go the handheld / dock solution and have one sku with the handheld and offer a dock as an attachment. The handheld can have a basic dock for tv play but you need the advanced dock for the console experience.
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
Yes. We're in 2024. It's not too much to ask for the next consoles to easily run games at 8K/120FPS at a bare minimum.
twilo99
Member
Of course not, Xbox has been ded for a long time now
Radical_3d
Member
Enjoy your 5 seconds of battery.
Is this whole forum based in Netherlands, California and other places where weed is legal? It’s 2024 and we have sub 60fps at 720p in Immortals of Whatever.
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HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Dorfdad
Gold Member
A 1080p handheld can easily get 4-5 hours with these new chips and a decent battery. That’s not out of the realm of possibility. The console like experience would require a dock that wouldn’t effect battery life
Radical_3d
Member
Even if you downclock in portable using a Zen 5 CPU and not an APU but a discrete GPU aside will be way less efficient. And if you are aiming to have graphics on par with the current generation no matter if you run it at 1080, that’d requiere way more power than what a portable system can deliver in 2026.
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
If a PC can do 8k/120 why not a console? Both are practically the same now anyway. No reason why we can't have a portable XSX or PS5 either. The tech is there and the people demand better.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Not sure if sarcasm.
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
100% real.
Steam Deck is a couple years old now and can run current games. Why can't we have a Steam Deck with a little more power?
I'm not asking for a portable 4090. Just something that at least can compete with 4 year old console hardware.
Regarding the console, there is no reason why a console can't perform like a top of the range PC. It'd cost a lot of money, but it is possible.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
coffinbirth
Member
This exactly why Microsoft are heavily invested in making Windows gaming performant on ARM. The timetable on these things is murky, but if rumors of this handheld being released somewhat soon (the next year or two) are true, I would assume they are not ready for that yet and are probably using off the shelf parts, ala Steam Deck.
Also, to play devils advocate here, you wouldn't need to have 1080p native res on a portable. When you take RT off the table, the power requirements for current gen games fall waaaay off as well. One need to look no further than Microsoft's cross gen strategy this generation to see that very few games even required this gens hardware beyond the CPU upgrade, haha.
Not sure if this is being sarcastic. But if it’s not, you’re out of your damn mind.
4K/120 in most games would be amazing and a big step up.
Stafford
Member
(FUCK YO PORTABLES)
Indeed! I could give a damn about portable gaming, hell no. I don't have that 65 inch QD-OLED for nothing, ffs, lol. It's all about that big screen gaming. But if Xbox were to go portable only I'm gone.
Go third party all the way? It's whatever to me at this point, but if you make a cool powerful box I will be there. Because I just prefer Xbox overall.
Jaguar Victory
Member
I'm this way. Im primary XBOX even though I have a gaming PC and a PS5. It's easier to chill and play on the TV in my recliner like a true boss.
A console has to take into account size, power draw, heat, and a viable price point therefore it's not realistic to expect that.
Radical_3d
Member
I’m out of the loop, people. Is this a joke account and I’m not getting it or is this serious?
If you get a current gen game and take away RT and reduce the resolution to 720p that’s LITERALLY the Series S. And that power is not 2 years away to be in mobile. Yes ARM is very efficient but that’s just the instruction set for the CPU. The GPU raw power doesn’t benefits from it and still needs to be powered the same way as always.
