TheWorthyEdge
Member
Unvote: Zubz
And there we have it. Not voting for anyone ATM.
And there we have it. Not voting for anyone ATM.
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Star Wars Mafia |OT| A Wretched Hive of Scum and Villainy
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TheWorthyEdge
Member
what the hell is Blargonaut doing loool
Blargonaut
Banned
#outplayed
Ahhhhhh don't worry about it Johnny ma boi, all in good fun
It's not like you're going to see me after tonight anyway
TheWorthyEdge
Member
What if Blargonauts role is that if he gets detained first he wins...but if he dies overnight he loses...?
Terrabyte20xx
Junior Wrestlemania XXX Champion
Ugh Blarg... You realize the way you're posting is textbook jester right? No one likes jesters...
Blargonaut
Banned
BLARGONAUT lets out a big devilish belly laugh
That's dumb
Your dumb
Take it, it's yours
Lord of Castamere
Member
Crab was very much agaist Jokers. I dout he'd advise a Joker role and I doubt the new admins would go against that advice.
Or he's a normal rebel and this is how he gets people to leave him alone.
Blargonaut
Banned
Exactly.
Blargonaut
Banned
Did you know that my mother is on the Galactic Senate?
Lord of Castamere
Member
Why shouldn't we vote for you? Why shouldnt you die today?
Presented with death your response is "Oh ok"?
Setre
Member
The Senate was dissolved when Palpatine took over and turned it into the puppet Imperial Senate. Clearly you've been away for a while, you must be a Jedi who's been in hiding all this time!
Blargonaut
Banned
Excuse you
She's an award-winning actress
It's a holovid period drama
Not like you'd know about it anyway
Terrabyte20xx
Junior Wrestlemania XXX Champion
Blah, go home, you're drunk on blue milk.
Blargonaut
Banned
exmachina64
Banned
Are we supposed to be roleplaying?
Zippedpinhead
Member
Some people thrive on chaos. Blar could easily be empire, masquerading around as a jester to play on our fear of killing him.
My personal opinion is that if we have multiple neutral players then we probably have less scum than the last game.
Even if we only have a few neutral and empire, we likely have a few "one-off" kill roles. Last game had two, and neither were able to actually kill someone before they died.
With the thought of bounty hunters, I am nervous on people trying too hard to kill a certain person. Of course we are all split up on day one.
My personal opinion is that if we have multiple neutral players then we probably have less scum than the last game.
Even if we only have a few neutral and empire, we likely have a few "one-off" kill roles. Last game had two, and neither were able to actually kill someone before they died.
With the thought of bounty hunters, I am nervous on people trying too hard to kill a certain person. Of course we are all split up on day one.
nope
Blargonaut
Banned
EMPIRE AND REBELLION
CRASHED TOGETHER BELOW TATOOINE'S TWIN SUNS
SIDE BY SIDE NEAR A MOISTURE FARM SO OLD, THE MOLD
IS VAPING MEEEE
CRASHED TOGETHER BELOW TATOOINE'S TWIN SUNS
SIDE BY SIDE NEAR A MOISTURE FARM SO OLD, THE MOLD
IS VAPING MEEEE
I'm going to feel really hurt if we find out you were Hutt this whole time.
Barrylocke
Member
I'll make more of an actual post when I get to work in a couple hours and really do more than keep up with the action, but I'll say now that after the Amar0x situation (even if I didn't actually vote in it), I'm pretty reluctant to you vote off a person just because they're being a joker.
Amir0x is exactly who it was reminding me of.
johnnyquicknives
Member
I dunno, it definitely looks like blarg has remembered to subscribe.
What else could I say? At the time I wrote that post I was chosen randomly as a sacrifice.
But I've been catching up on the thread since then, and it seems the reason people are voting for me is that I'm posting but I'm not posting enough. And people don't want to detain someone who was completely inactive. But even before the game started I said that I wouldn't be able to post like crazy because I was busy this weekend! How much is a gal supposed to post to keep everyone happy?!
Ok, now to go back and read everyone's posts properly...this thread sure is moving fast. For such a boring planet things are definitely exciting.
Could you say you were...swamped?
Lol, now you know where I got my name!
I wanted to be the wordplay guy, but I guess you beat me to the punch!
...
Caught up with the thread. Feeling a bit less suspicious of Tera, now.
TheWorthyEdge, can I ask why you're always first to ask other people about their reasoning? Shouldn't the accused be the one asking those questions?
You're coming across as the most suspicious for me but I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt and we still have time before the votes are tallied.
Not gonna vote against who voted me, that'd be petty and counter-intuitive.
TheWorthyEdge, can I ask why you're always first to ask other people about their reasoning? Shouldn't the accused be the one asking those questions?
You're coming across as the most suspicious for me but I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt and we still have time before the votes are tallied.
Not gonna vote against who voted me, that'd be petty and counter-intuitive.
Barrylocke
Member
Alright, let's take some time to give thoughts on the notable moments.
Concerning Terrabyte vs. Palmer v1: My thoughts here are about where I still feel on that. Terra did a play and Palmer held his ground with it. Terra's play feels very pro town, though there is the possibility that he was being gutsy to get an early amount of trust with the town by putting his neck out there. Palmer could go either way, but at the very least he is no more mafia looking than when he began so far.
Concerning voting on nonposters: I definitely feel more comfortable being suspicious of someones intents and voting on that vs. voting an inactive. Having said that, we have seen evidence of more inactive players being the people to go for. RobotNinjaHornets in When Death is on the Line comes immediately to mind. I can see myself doing it on a last resort, but I'd really rather look at the people doing things that feel scummier to me and riding on that to see what the reaction is. This is especially true early on. While it's true that scum is more likely to lurk when things get tougher, why would you lurk as much on Day 1 when there's almost nothing to talk about, no inconsistencies to be caught on. Better to mingle and be amongst the people for early trust. And some people avoid day 1 talk because there's little productivity that happens then (though I agree that it's important to find the productive where you can). Egruntz from WDIOTL comes to mind in this case.
Concerning my vote on Theworthyedge: Weird as it may sound, his early tenaciousness struck me as odd. I know it's a little weird, coming from me, but while I'm used to people voting, I'm not so used to the dogged following up on people voting one way and not another. It's something that when it does show up tends to happen later. It's also something that mafia people feeling some heat or needing to launch a plan may do sometimes. Thinking on it in a vacuum, it's not necessarily suspicious. But it does break what I consider to be normal game flow, and that's what compelled me to vote. The vote on swamped can also be read either way. If you're a townie then you know you aren't town and would rather preserve yourself vs. letting an unknown live. And if you're mafia then of course you'd try to get another person killed instead. Although if I were a mafia member on the block, I'd probably be more likely to ask a fellow mafioso to get the vote on the other candidate on the block so I don't raise suspicion.
About to leave the job, but I'm going to hop on again to finish my thoughts in a bit. Sorry for posting less this time, some minor life things have held me back, and frankly the town seems less lethargic this time. That was the biggest reason I posted so aggressively in WDIOTL.
Concerning Terrabyte vs. Palmer v1: My thoughts here are about where I still feel on that. Terra did a play and Palmer held his ground with it. Terra's play feels very pro town, though there is the possibility that he was being gutsy to get an early amount of trust with the town by putting his neck out there. Palmer could go either way, but at the very least he is no more mafia looking than when he began so far.
Concerning voting on nonposters: I definitely feel more comfortable being suspicious of someones intents and voting on that vs. voting an inactive. Having said that, we have seen evidence of more inactive players being the people to go for. RobotNinjaHornets in When Death is on the Line comes immediately to mind. I can see myself doing it on a last resort, but I'd really rather look at the people doing things that feel scummier to me and riding on that to see what the reaction is. This is especially true early on. While it's true that scum is more likely to lurk when things get tougher, why would you lurk as much on Day 1 when there's almost nothing to talk about, no inconsistencies to be caught on. Better to mingle and be amongst the people for early trust. And some people avoid day 1 talk because there's little productivity that happens then (though I agree that it's important to find the productive where you can). Egruntz from WDIOTL comes to mind in this case.
Concerning my vote on Theworthyedge: Weird as it may sound, his early tenaciousness struck me as odd. I know it's a little weird, coming from me, but while I'm used to people voting, I'm not so used to the dogged following up on people voting one way and not another. It's something that when it does show up tends to happen later. It's also something that mafia people feeling some heat or needing to launch a plan may do sometimes. Thinking on it in a vacuum, it's not necessarily suspicious. But it does break what I consider to be normal game flow, and that's what compelled me to vote. The vote on swamped can also be read either way. If you're a townie then you know you aren't town and would rather preserve yourself vs. letting an unknown live. And if you're mafia then of course you'd try to get another person killed instead. Although if I were a mafia member on the block, I'd probably be more likely to ask a fellow mafioso to get the vote on the other candidate on the block so I don't raise suspicion.
About to leave the job, but I'm going to hop on again to finish my thoughts in a bit. Sorry for posting less this time, some minor life things have held me back, and frankly the town seems less lethargic this time. That was the biggest reason I posted so aggressively in WDIOTL.
TheWorthyEdge
Member
I play a lot of Werewolf outside of the online-realm and I'm always the person that asks the most questions regarding any suspicious activity. Playing it online is a huge difference but I'm not going to change my playstyle even if it could hurt me later on. Mafia too me, day one, is asking questions and gathering up as much information as you can so thats what I do. I'm going to prod and prod for any information that the rebel's could use to their advantage.
TheWorthyEdge
Member
I've read the other mafia threads and the first day just seems so dull but usually the first day is one of my favorites because if the early suspicions you had were right then the feeling of gratitude you get is substantial.
Matt Attack
Member
So, I've been having trouble thinking of what to add to the discussion, although perhaps that's to be expected at this point. I will say that Blarg's posts have been simultaneously funny and incredibly confusing. No idea what's going on there.
As far as detaining, while I do think we should try to exercise this power, I'm also in the camp that's against blindly going after inactives. I think that the risk of detaining somebody with a useful rebel power role who might be laying low to avoid unwanted attention is difficult to ignore. I'd also imagine that the Hutt have more to gain by actually posting right now to try to seem rebel-aligned.
As far as detaining, while I do think we should try to exercise this power, I'm also in the camp that's against blindly going after inactives. I think that the risk of detaining somebody with a useful rebel power role who might be laying low to avoid unwanted attention is difficult to ignore. I'd also imagine that the Hutt have more to gain by actually posting right now to try to seem rebel-aligned.
TheWorthyEdge
Member
Agreed, but I still think if they did have a role worth staying alive for they would keep talking, no? It doesn't exactly seem they would be on our team if they don't talk and contribute much at all. It almost makes them look like a neutral.
Matt Attack
Member
I would assume there would need to be a balance. Too much attention could paint a big target on their back, and they need to make sure they survive at least long enough to actually use their ability (I'm not sure if an ability gets used if one is killed during the first night). At the same time, I do agree they they do need to talk enough to convince us that they are on the rebel side, so that we don't do the Hutt's jobs for them.
Personally, nobody has really stood out to me for detainment just yet, but I really need to give the thread another once over. I understand that there are some suspect people, so I need to make sure I know what's going on.
TheWorthyEdge
Member
As do I. Is there a way, on Mobile GAF, that I can look at posts from a single person?
Matt Attack
Member
I pretty much only use mobile GAF and I've never found a way, unfortunately. It would be a huge help, but we'll have to do it the long way I suppose.
I'm in a similar boat.
Initially, I wanted to see if we could pass the first day without detaining but then again, exercising that power gives us agency.
This is why Worthy stood out, for me personally. It looked less like defending other posters and more like getting people to second guess themselves and stall any momentum being built up.
Barrylocke
Member
The first moderator to put a legit jester in their game will get a flurry of angry gifs and images from me.
TheWorthyEdge
Member
But how can I defend anyone right now without knowing any information? You have to question in order to get answers.
Activity is dying down. Maybe time to start throwing more votes out.
In the meantime, here's the post counts:
A link to that page for the mobile users. Not sure if it will actually work, but someone was asking. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/misc.php?do=whoposted&t=1047199
In the meantime, here's the post counts:
A link to that page for the mobile users. Not sure if it will actually work, but someone was asking. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/misc.php?do=whoposted&t=1047199
Blargonaut
Banned
I have taken a solitary walk in the desert to reflect upon our situation.
And, after much moral introspection, it is with a heavy heart that I must submit to you my fellow marooned, the painfully optimal solution to our 'double agent' conundrum:
We should draw straws.
Curly ones are hard to wash, but it's all hypothetical.
And, after much moral introspection, it is with a heavy heart that I must submit to you my fellow marooned, the painfully optimal solution to our 'double agent' conundrum:
We should draw straws.
Curly ones are hard to wash, but it's all hypothetical.
Worthy, you understand that the reason I initially voted for you was not because you were suspicious and asking questions about TB, but because you failed to vote for him (as exmachina did) while simultaneously posturing that he's the obvious target.
Here you are acting as though the general consensus was that TB should be lynched, when exmachina was the only other one to fully suggest it -- and once again he backed his claim with a vote.
Following my vote for you, you continued to ask why we shouldn't vote for TB, despite a couple of posts already explaining why.
Now in my mind there are two reasons for you to do this: Either you are new to forum mafia and aren't used to how games usually flow (which is totally fine!) or you are Mafia trying to drum up support for an obvious target. I voted for you to put pressure on you, and out of that we learned that both you and exmachina are new to forum mafia. This information will be useful throughout the game as it will provide context for your future posts.
I'm posting this not to reopen my case against you, but because you are acting as though my vote against you was an attempt to silence you or make you change your playstyle. This is not the case, I simply found your posts suspicious and wanted to see how you'd react to a vote.
That should read: you were suspicious of and asking questions about TB
So, I see 5 possibilities for my vote:
1. Detain Blargonaut because he's actively hindering my enjoyment of this game. I doubt he's a Hutt, but as I've said before, I don't mind making a suboptimal choice in favor of having fun. This is a game, in the end.
2. Detain Rymuth for low activity. It's too easy for Hutts to skate by if we don't pressure them into posting. We don't want to depend on power roles to root them out. Why Rymuth over Quantum? I agree about WorthyEdge seeming a bit suspicious, but otherwise, he's been a bit erratic.
3. Detain QuantumBro for low activity. Why him over Rymuth? His only post of note is advocating we lynch inactives, which I strongly agree with. Some bias from last game makes me favor him as well.
4. No detain. I haven't actually been swayed into thinking we HAVE to lynch Day 1. It certainly feels like I'll be outnumbered though.
5. Detain a person I feel is acting particularly suspicious. It's fucking Day 1. You'd have to parade around with a slave girl on a leash for me to have any strong feelings about you being a Hutt at this point.
For now:
Vote: No Detain
1. Detain Blargonaut because he's actively hindering my enjoyment of this game. I doubt he's a Hutt, but as I've said before, I don't mind making a suboptimal choice in favor of having fun. This is a game, in the end.
2. Detain Rymuth for low activity. It's too easy for Hutts to skate by if we don't pressure them into posting. We don't want to depend on power roles to root them out. Why Rymuth over Quantum? I agree about WorthyEdge seeming a bit suspicious, but otherwise, he's been a bit erratic.
3. Detain QuantumBro for low activity. Why him over Rymuth? His only post of note is advocating we lynch inactives, which I strongly agree with. Some bias from last game makes me favor him as well.
4. No detain. I haven't actually been swayed into thinking we HAVE to lynch Day 1. It certainly feels like I'll be outnumbered though.
5. Detain a person I feel is acting particularly suspicious. It's fucking Day 1. You'd have to parade around with a slave girl on a leash for me to have any strong feelings about you being a Hutt at this point.
For now:
Vote: No Detain
You still have not made an actual definitive statement this game. Keeping my vote on you.
Blargonaut
Banned
Mea culpa, ignore me if you wish.