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Star Wars Mafia |OT| A Wretched Hive of Scum and Villainy
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TheWorthyEdge
Member
Sorry! Crap!
Terrabyte20xx
Junior Wrestlemania XXX Champion
BLARG YOU ARE AN IDIOT!!!!!!!!!
When is Night 2 scheduled to end?
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Deleted member 231381
Unconfirmed Member
Unusually slow off the mark today. Hutt got your tongue?
They're still in shock from day 2.
RobotNinjaHornets
Banned
We gonna have all of AC mafia posting before any of SW mafia?
That'd be entertaining.
That'd be entertaining.
So, remember this post?
As to why you shouldnt vote for me, well its simple. Im your commanding officer.
My role is Rebel Officer (cop), I investigated Palmer on the first night. Hes clean. I think the person we should vote for is probably in the bandwagon who jumped on Blargonaut. Hes right, they wont kill him but they most certainly will vote him out.
Heres my suggestion; we pick someone to vote and you all pick someone for me to investigate. The Hutts have an easy target in me and if I die, despite my role, I dont think itll be that big of a loss.
Setre claimed he has Blarg's role. As we've learned, "Force Sensitive Rebel" was our Seer/Cop, not "Rebel Officer." Plus, when a Seer/Cop reveals, there is almost never a reason for the Wolves/Mob to not just kill them in the night, unless it was one of them making a fake claim. Yet Setre lives. Why would they pass him up? For Palmer, of all players? Setre even mentioned that he was the most likely target for the Hutts a few pages back with his role, back when we were certain Blarg was the Undercover Imperial. And why does he have Blarg's power under a different name, too? Of course, this all makes sense if he were to be a Hutt.
Vote: Setre
Plus, he claimed he cleared Palmer? He could have randomly picked a player to divert attention from himself, but it'd be foolish not to look into Palmer now. Odds are, if a Wolf/Mobster claiming to be a Seer/Cop clears another player, it's because (s)he, too, was a Wolf/Mobster.
I'm really sorry Blarg. I thought you were a neutral bounty hunter trying to get us to lynch a specific person. I thought the undercover imperial claim was too brazen for a townie to do it.
Now, I'm pretty certain the message thing was just part of the lie to hide his Cop role. Yesterday, I thought it was a lie to get someone lynched. Remember what I accused TB (R.I.P.) of on Day 1? I said accusing me and trying to get a lynch was a bad idea, when he could just wait and role claim Cop later on. I thought that was Blarg's plan and he was dropping hints yesterday(Day 2) so he could do it today(D3).
I never specifically lied about anything yesterday, but I'll admit I didn't bother to correct some misconceptions if it meant getting Blarg lynched. Specifically, TWE assuming I was the Cop.
In case you haven't figured it out yet, I'm not technically a rebel. I'm a Neutral with a special loss condition. I'd rather not say anything specific about my role yet, as the knowledge will only help mafia.
Now you can see why I was badgering Setre about his info. It looks like Blarg was only a faction cop. Setre MIGHT be a role cop and town aligned, but I'm more inclined to believe he's lying about his role entirely, or is Hutt aligned.
Now, I'm pretty certain the message thing was just part of the lie to hide his Cop role. Yesterday, I thought it was a lie to get someone lynched. Remember what I accused TB (R.I.P.) of on Day 1? I said accusing me and trying to get a lynch was a bad idea, when he could just wait and role claim Cop later on. I thought that was Blarg's plan and he was dropping hints yesterday(Day 2) so he could do it today(D3).
I never specifically lied about anything yesterday, but I'll admit I didn't bother to correct some misconceptions if it meant getting Blarg lynched. Specifically, TWE assuming I was the Cop.
In case you haven't figured it out yet, I'm not technically a rebel. I'm a Neutral with a special loss condition. I'd rather not say anything specific about my role yet, as the knowledge will only help mafia.
Now you can see why I was badgering Setre about his info. It looks like Blarg was only a faction cop. Setre MIGHT be a role cop and town aligned, but I'm more inclined to believe he's lying about his role entirely, or is Hutt aligned.
QuantumBro
Banned
A quick message to the person I sent the shield to:
Do not reveal who you are, there is a thief on the loose.
Do not reveal who you are, there is a thief on the loose.
rebels legit shook
I was busy typing! Now that I'm done, kindly go fuck yourselves
So, remember this post?
Setre claimed he has Blarg's role. As we've learned, "Force Sensitive Rebel" was our Seer/Cop, not "Rebel Officer." Plus, when a Seer/Cop reveals, there is almost never a reason for the Wolves/Mob to not just kill them in the night, unless it was one of them making a fake claim. Yet Setre lives. Why would they pass him up? For Palmer, of all players? Setre even mentioned that he was the most likely target for the Hutts a few pages back with his role, back when we were certain Blarg was the Undercover Imperial. And why does he have Blarg's power under a different name, too? Of course, this all makes sense if he were to be a Hutt.
Vote: Setre
Plus, he claimed he cleared Palmer? He could have randomly picked a player to divert attention from himself, but it'd be foolish not to look into Palmer now. Odds are, if a Wolf/Mobster claiming to be a Seer/Cop clears another player, it's because (s)he, too, was a Wolf/Mobster.
Obviously I was typing as you typed, and had the same thought about Setre.
Oh, FFS, like this game can't get any MORE chaotic.
Good! I love a challenge.
And again, sorry I'm suspicious of you, Palmer. As I said, you could be an Rebel (Although clearly not an ordinary one), but it's just an odd choice, that the guy who (most likely) lied about being a Seer chose to "clear" you. For right now, though, my sights are set on Setre. That's just a point I'd really like to visit today: Why did he pick you?
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Rebels right now:
It took me way longer to produce this gif than I care to admit
TheWorthyEdge
Member
HOW. HOW ARE WE ALIVE.
Good! I love a challenge.
And again, sorry I'm suspicious of you, Palmer. As I said, you could be an Rebel (Although clearly not an ordinary one), but it's just an odd choice, that the guy who (most likely) lied about being a Seer chose to "clear" you. For right now, though, my sights are set on Setre. That's just a point I'd really like to visit today: Why did he pick you?
I have no idea, but I'm not a rebel at all. I'm Neutral. If you look back, I asked him several pointed questions that I don't think I ever got a real answer to. Unfortunately, it kind of got lost in the whole Blag thing. Part of why I didn't reveal more of my role is so I can wait to see what he might say so I can confirm/deny.
I don't at all blame people for being suspicious of me.
Setre
Member
Welp, looks like the heats back on me. I assumed I was the cop because I have the same ability as Blarg. For a bit of clarification when I invistiage someone It doesn't tell me whether they are Town aligned or Hutt aligned, all I get is a message saying "No suspicious activity found."
I investigated eJawa during the night and once again found nothing. And before you all decide to detain me I've got a bit more information.
I received a message like Blarg did during the first night. Just of the message is this:
Blarg wasn't the person they wanted to represent them. Pay attention to who gets these messages. They have a 20 word limite. Lastly in supposed to tell you all this.
I've told you all what I am and it's up to you to believe me or not. If you detain me you'll just be killing another Rebel who can help you.
I've read a bit more up in Mafia and there are cops who can have different sanity levels. I don't know if MattyG would include these in the game or not but if there's more than one person who can investigate that might be the case. If it is then both Palmer and eJawa could be Hutts.
I'm not saying they are I'm simply stating what I've read. As far as I'm concerned right now I trust Palmer, even if he is neutral, and eJawa.
I investigated eJawa during the night and once again found nothing. And before you all decide to detain me I've got a bit more information.
I received a message like Blarg did during the first night. Just of the message is this:
Blarg wasn't the person they wanted to represent them. Pay attention to who gets these messages. They have a 20 word limite. Lastly in supposed to tell you all this.
I've told you all what I am and it's up to you to believe me or not. If you detain me you'll just be killing another Rebel who can help you.
I've read a bit more up in Mafia and there are cops who can have different sanity levels. I don't know if MattyG would include these in the game or not but if there's more than one person who can investigate that might be the case. If it is then both Palmer and eJawa could be Hutts.
I'm not saying they are I'm simply stating what I've read. As far as I'm concerned right now I trust Palmer, even if he is neutral, and eJawa.
QuantumBro
Banned
QuantumBro
Banned
I suspect that Setre was role claiming to avoid a lynch, and randomly picked me. 4 out of 5 players are probably rebels, after all. It's either that or he's a role cop, and cleared me when he saw what my role text says. Role name alone, wouldn't be enough.
We could also be Mafia together, but remember that the only reason he claimed was that I was personally leading a Detain attempt against him. Not bandwagoning or voting once it seemed clear he was doomed. It was because I thought he was the undercover Imperial, in fact. I dropped it once he claimed and once blarg claimed.
Ah, that changes things a bit. Have you not played a ton of Mafia/Werewolf before? It sounds like you're checking for Night activity, i.e. a Tracker or Watcher. I think LoC had a similar role last game. In that case, I can confirm that I did not target N1.
The message stuff... I dunno. Seems super weird for now.
Setre
Member
Bingo, this is my first Mafia game as I've said before. Again I just assumed I was the cop because when I looked on the Mafia wiki it seemed liked it aligned with my ability.
As far as the message goes the person could be someone who knows everyone else's abilities. They gave it to Blarg who had a special ability, then they gave it to me who also has a special ability.
Barrylocke
Member
This is implying that you do have the ability to target?
Triple post(maybe)
Role time.
Town:
Blarg - Faction Cop
Exmachina - Armorer
Terrabyte - Ordinary Rebel
Lord of Castamere - I forget but he had a night kill
Quantum - Armorer(Unproven)
Setre - Tracker(Semi-confirmed by me)
TheWorthyEdge - Combat Buddy(semi-confirmed)
Zubz - Combat Buddy(Semi-Confirmed)
eJawa - No activity N1 per Setre
Neutral:
Palmer_v1 - (unproven), no N1 activity per Setre
Mafia:
Swamped - Undercover Imperial
??? - Undercover Imperial
Unknown:
??? - Thief(per QuantumBro)
That's 10 of 23 players with a power role of some type, 1 Ordinary Rebel as well, and eJawa(could be Ordinary, could be passive)
Role time.
Town:
Blarg - Faction Cop
Exmachina - Armorer
Terrabyte - Ordinary Rebel
Lord of Castamere - I forget but he had a night kill
Quantum - Armorer(Unproven)
Setre - Tracker(Semi-confirmed by me)
TheWorthyEdge - Combat Buddy(semi-confirmed)
Zubz - Combat Buddy(Semi-Confirmed)
eJawa - No activity N1 per Setre
Neutral:
Palmer_v1 - (unproven), no N1 activity per Setre
Mafia:
Swamped - Undercover Imperial
??? - Undercover Imperial
Unknown:
??? - Thief(per QuantumBro)
That's 10 of 23 players with a power role of some type, 1 Ordinary Rebel as well, and eJawa(could be Ordinary, could be passive)
It's me giving as little info as possible, so people can't use my role info to fake claim.
Last game, it was a problem when I claimed Sleep Walker, because it then meant anyone could claim they saw me target, or visit someone, and I couldn't confirm or deny.
johnnyquicknives
Member
Well that was certainly something.
So, only one death. Are we thinking that the mafia can only target one person, or are we thinking a kill was blocked? Terra was a strong player but there were a lot of power roles in the open that could also have been targets but all the discussion was around protecting Worthy/Zubz.
I will say that Setre said something yesterday and it's wording made me think he's being truthful. I could be wrong (or be being played) but im inclined to trust him now.
So, only one death. Are we thinking that the mafia can only target one person, or are we thinking a kill was blocked? Terra was a strong player but there were a lot of power roles in the open that could also have been targets but all the discussion was around protecting Worthy/Zubz.
I will say that Setre said something yesterday and it's wording made me think he's being truthful. I could be wrong (or be being played) but im inclined to trust him now.
It seems like we're down to a single kill a night, unless Quantum starts handing guns out, but it's hard to say. If we had two armorers handing guns out, we could have been at 3 kills a night, 4 with LoC. There may be more one time kills, but it feels like they would have been used quickly, like LoC vs Swamped. Only reason I can see killing TB is that he was generally trusted by everyone. They weren't going to get us to detain him, basically.
AbsolutBro
Member
RIP TB20xx ;_;
I'm not really sure where to go.
I'm a little but not really surprised that TWE and Zubz survived. We certainly discussed their situation enough that I feel like Hutts going for them would be a bit of a suicidal move.
Setre being a Watcher is helpful. I don't think it'll help us catch the other Imperial Agent, since that's a passive role, but helpful nonetheless. I'd say, "maybe we should send a shield her way", but apparently those are disappearing now?
As for Palmer, well, we had a helpful relation with the neutral player last time, hopefully we can do as much this time. You say you have an early lose condition, but the real question is does your win condition override a town win? Or coincide?
I'm not really sure where to go.
I'm a little but not really surprised that TWE and Zubz survived. We certainly discussed their situation enough that I feel like Hutts going for them would be a bit of a suicidal move.
Setre being a Watcher is helpful. I don't think it'll help us catch the other Imperial Agent, since that's a passive role, but helpful nonetheless. I'd say, "maybe we should send a shield her way", but apparently those are disappearing now?
As for Palmer, well, we had a helpful relation with the neutral player last time, hopefully we can do as much this time. You say you have an early lose condition, but the real question is does your win condition override a town win? Or coincide?
MOSTLY coincides. I cannot win if town does not win. The reverse is not true.
My biggest hindrance to town is merely existing, because I am not in the pool of players the Hutts need to kill to win.
I find this a little suspicious. Can you reveal how you know there is a thief? I already think it's odd that there would be 2 armourers and saying there is a theif is a convenient way of hiding the fact that no one is admiting they received a shield. However, I don't know why anyone would truthfully admit to having the shield in the first place.
The fact that I am a littles suspicious of you probably proves that your a rebel though, considering everyone I suspect end up being rebels.
Because of what Setre said, now I belive he is a rebel, which probably means he is actually a hutt... which really makes him a rebel, which makes... my head hurt.
Zippedpinhead
Member
Blarg... RIP. You were taken so quickly from us. Hopefully in a future far far away you can rejoin us.
Terrabyte, you will be missed as well, you brought a ton of good information (even though I didn't really trust you).
Palmer, neutral? Alright should be interesting... Setre? Palmer and eJawa? How did you come up with eJawa?
Terrabyte, you will be missed as well, you brought a ton of good information (even though I didn't really trust you).
Palmer, neutral? Alright should be interesting... Setre? Palmer and eJawa? How did you come up with eJawa?
Barrylocke
Member
Seriously though I know I've been out of it especially yesterday, but what exactly was Blargonauts Master Plan of tricking the Hutts? Im curious to know if there was more to it besides entertaining(?) us all with chaos.
johnnyquicknives
Member
The only thing I can think is that he thought that he would be able to persuade us that he wouldn't do us harm and could use 'the hologram' (his cop skillz) to pass on messages to us.
Ideally that would have meant that the Hutt wouldn't attack him since he was technically on their side and we would leave him alone since we knew his role and would believe he had defected. The interesting thing is that he may well have managed to buy himself at least an extra night until Palmer dropped his him or me stuff which caused a flurry of votes and should probably be the kick off point for todays investigations.
It was still an awful plan since no one would have believed him once he full claimed and we would of had to detain him either way to confirm. This is why lying as town hurts town more than it helps.
Also he didn't even counter-claim setre when setre claimed cop. All of that was insanely frustrating.
I guess I should claim to be Empire, before someone else can make this stupid move today.
So here we go: I am Jeff Vader. I ran the Death Star before you Rebels decided to blow it up. Luckily I was just sitting in the canteen when this happened. Because there were some escape pods located right next to my table. So I was able to get out of the Death Star unharmed.
My power is to throw wet trays at players while they are sleeping to annoy them.
So here we go: I am Jeff Vader. I ran the Death Star before you Rebels decided to blow it up. Luckily I was just sitting in the canteen when this happened. Because there were some escape pods located right next to my table. So I was able to get out of the Death Star unharmed.
My power is to throw wet trays at players while they are sleeping to annoy them.
jk. I am a rebel. Don't vote for me.
Now to something completely different:
Just some thoughts:
QuantumBro: Still very suspicious of him. Such a powerful role twice in the game? I just can't believe it
Palmer: Neutral? So we have two Empire players who do not have contact to the Hutt players. So they could be considered Neutral as well. We also have probably 2-4 Empire players. AND on top of the Palmer has another neutral role? Really?
Setre: Why role claim on Day 2? What is a suspicious activity? Does it tell you about any activity during the night? Like a watcher role? Still suspicious of him.
Oh and @Blarg: What's wrong with you? Claiming to be the enemy? Not even giving a clear answer who you targeted during night 1 AFTER you reached a majority of votes.
I will stick with OceanicAir for now.
OceanicAir
Just some thoughts:
QuantumBro: Still very suspicious of him. Such a powerful role twice in the game? I just can't believe it
Palmer: Neutral? So we have two Empire players who do not have contact to the Hutt players. So they could be considered Neutral as well. We also have probably 2-4 Empire players. AND on top of the Palmer has another neutral role? Really?
Setre: Why role claim on Day 2? What is a suspicious activity? Does it tell you about any activity during the night? Like a watcher role? Still suspicious of him.
Oh and @Blarg: What's wrong with you? Claiming to be the enemy? Not even giving a clear answer who you targeted during night 1 AFTER you reached a majority of votes.
I will stick with OceanicAir for now.
OceanicAir
I don't understand Setre's new claim. I don't understand how you can get a cop and tracker confused, even as a new player. The role description should make it clear?
Then he confirms Palmer as town (which we now know is not true):
If you're a tracker and you know there is at least one passive Imperial Agent, how does that confirm anyone as town?
Then this exchange:
ejawa can you confirm you made no night action last night?
I don't really trust Setre, but I also don't think we should detain him today. If he is telling the truth, we can at least gain a couple more days of info before we confirm his role. I just don't want to go forward assuming he is town.
Well said. A thief makes sense if we really have 2 armourers. My question to town is should we risk the shielded person to confirm QB? Seems like an easy way to confirm him. But we're risking QB dying tonight since he lost his shield and the other person losing his shield as well.
@Palmer does your role imply another neutral role aside from you?
@traube I'll vote OA today unless something comes up. I agree with your assessment.
Then he confirms Palmer as town (which we now know is not true):
If you're a tracker and you know there is at least one passive Imperial Agent, how does that confirm anyone as town?
Then this exchange:
Setre never responds or clarifies, shouldn't that have set off some alarm bells that he was mistaken about his role?
ejawa can you confirm you made no night action last night?
I don't really trust Setre, but I also don't think we should detain him today. If he is telling the truth, we can at least gain a couple more days of info before we confirm his role. I just don't want to go forward assuming he is town.
Well said. A thief makes sense if we really have 2 armourers. My question to town is should we risk the shielded person to confirm QB? Seems like an easy way to confirm him. But we're risking QB dying tonight since he lost his shield and the other person losing his shield as well.
@Palmer does your role imply another neutral role aside from you?
@traube I'll vote OA today unless something comes up. I agree with your assessment.