raindoc and Matt Attack: If you think AbsolutBro is hutt, what are your thoughts on his "bluff"? If if he is the thief, then that confusion about the thief not being the hutt, was all fake. Getting rid of Czar, then relying on a bluff like that seems reckless.
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Star Wars Mafia |OT| A Wretched Hive of Scum and Villainy
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Matt Attack
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I don't disagree that it would be a reckless move. It would have surely been easy enough for us to ask MattyG whether or not such an action would be theoretically possible (as we did). However, it's not like there hasn't been any precedent for risky, last minute bluffs thus far from Hutt players (Makai's defense). And even considering how risky a bluff like this would be, I'm still having trouble thinking of other candidates for the thief. From my perspective, as strange as the situation may appear to be, it's the only thing that adds up.
I would also be willing to detain YesNo today- I still believe he is the UI.
My "problem" with AB's story is that he came up with it after we shortened our list to him and Matt and his target is a user who has been suspicous earlier, but who's absolutely not what we are looking for atm. It seems like a "Hey! look! A three-headed monkey!" move to me. A distraction.
That's all I got, there hasn't been much input lately, so I'm grasping the one straw I can find.
That's all I got, there hasn't been much input lately, so I'm grasping the one straw I can find.
AbsolutBro
Member
Are my "I made a mistake with the game rules" posts invisible or something? I mean, if you don't believe me when I say it that's fine, but I'm not really sure since you've never actually addressed them.
I screwed up. I admit that. Should have clarified the night action thing before I posted. Wouldn't you be excited if you thought you had game changing information this late in the game? I really hope that screw up doesn't end up costing us the game.
It's pretty much a complete crapshoot. If any of us had anything concrete, this would be far easier.
Vote: AbsolutBro
It's nothing personal. I just kinda want to get this over with. If you flip rebel though, as penitence, I'll let you decide my fate by picking heads or tails. If it matches my coin flip later, I'll protect myself. Call it before the day closes, obviously.
Vote: AbsolutBro
It's nothing personal. I just kinda want to get this over with. If you flip rebel though, as penitence, I'll let you decide my fate by picking heads or tails. If it matches my coin flip later, I'll protect myself. Call it before the day closes, obviously.
This is also so I can cast blame on you when I pick incorrectly.
Generally speaking: what else would you say now? "Herpderp, I was kidding?"
Bold part: kinda what I'm doing here.
Underline: don't worry, this game won't be lost because of that and you're not responsible. it's a team effort and has been since day 1.
I don't like this. I don't like it one bit, but else should we do? We're caught between a rock and a hard place and don't have any serious evidence.
you posted something somewhat suspicious - but that's more than I got against Jawa, or Matt or YesNO.
The problem is that even if we completely ignore that stuff you brought up earlier, it's still basically a 50/50 between you and matt attack.
AbsolutBro
Member
Before someone jumps on the last vote to end the day, give me the dignity of a final post.
Matt Attack
Member
I can't wait for both AB and YesNo to flip rebel, leaving me with nothing but a legacy of being totally incorrect.
YesNOnoNOYes
Member
OMG that spoiler XD
Why would you say this~ Such foreshadowing. Very shifty~
I think if both AB and me flipped Rebel, there would NOT be very many townie left: Palmer, raindoc, eJawa and YOU. ..... SO IM NOT TOTALLY SURE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING HERE, MATEY cuz by that time it's not like there would be much room for being 'incorrect' as much as there will be room to be 'HUTT'
*judgy mcjudgerson eyes at you*
I wanna be Mafia next game though. Seems more exciting. IDK. I dislike the waiting period of the Night time~ *deals badly with waiting periods in life in general*
I'm only a damn neutral but I can guarantee it's mentally harrowing.
YesNOnoNOYes
Member
I can see that, but I think any other role than regular townie role would be more engaging to play with. ... Well, your role does seem a bit mentally taxing, though haha. You've been playing it well, I have to say :>
Looking back at Day 4 and 5, AbsolutBro was very involved in the discussions and it does seem mostly pro-town. He was first advocating a wait and see, which was a bad idea, but soon switched to pushing a Makai vote and then Oceanic the next day. I also think it's crazy he would invent a rule confusion, that could easily backfire and make him look suspicious.
Vote: Matt Attack
I'll switch if there is any risk of a tie, but my feeling is Absolut is rebel.
Vote: Matt Attack
I'll switch if there is any risk of a tie, but my feeling is Absolut is rebel.
AbsolutBro
Member
I've mulled long and hard about how I'll go out. It kind of sucks to make it this far and not be alive to see it through, but them's the breaks I guess. I've gone back through my posts, Matt Attacks' posts, Rymuth's posts and YesNOnoNOYes's posts, looking for anything to defend myself with. Most of my posts have been complete truth, which is funny in a game built (for some) on lying. In the end, I figured I'd go out the same way I played the game, and the way that the game has been played:
As we all realize, there are three options for the thief at this point:
Myself
Matt Attack
YesNOnoNOYes
I can say with 100% certainty that it is not me. I know I painted a giant target on my back by accusing eJawa today. I know looking back it didn't come out clear, but that was my intention. They tried to kill Palmer, we've known this since JQK's reveal. The whole thinking with the thief being separate was that it meant eJawa was no longer in the clear. All sort of moot now.
I've also defended my actions. If I was a Hutt, you would at least have to give me that I've been super sneaky up through now. Which makes it even less likely I'd kill Czar last night and then paint a target on my chest like I did, with a story I can't prove about a shield I can't even prove I had. A story directly mirroring another hutt's claim.
YesNOnoNOYes: Unlike some of you, I'm not willing to write him off as the Hutt. Yes, Rymuth leaving is less likely if he was a Hutt, but I also feel like Matty would care less about replacing him so late in the game if Rymuth had been an OR. Ref killing him at that point would have been fair. But at the time, Makai and OA were already on the line. Makai definitely. He's been insistent that we judge him based on his own posts, which I think is both fair, and a cover. It would suck, imo, for YesNOnoNOYes to pull out a win based on no one thinking Rymuth would quit. I suspect YesNo thinks much along the same lines; I know for me it would cheapen a victory.
Matt: I hounded you and Zipped, but eventually relented and went after Redhood. I realize now that was probably a mistake. A costly, costly mistake.
I'm not going to go back through posts and list individual suspicions, it's a bit late for that now. Like Palmer says, it's basically a split between Matty and myself, with a slight chance of YesNOnoNOYes. But I'm not going down without a fight:
Vote: YesNOnoNOYes
I've had no major reason to doubt Matt Attack (other than gunning for Zipped). I know most people see the divide being between Matt and myself, but I'm going to take the outside shot that you're content to lurk there letting them think that.
And with that, in the spirit of this game:
I roleclaim Undercover Imperial. ;_;7
As we all realize, there are three options for the thief at this point:
Myself
Matt Attack
YesNOnoNOYes
I can say with 100% certainty that it is not me. I know I painted a giant target on my back by accusing eJawa today. I know looking back it didn't come out clear, but that was my intention. They tried to kill Palmer, we've known this since JQK's reveal. The whole thinking with the thief being separate was that it meant eJawa was no longer in the clear. All sort of moot now.
I've also defended my actions. If I was a Hutt, you would at least have to give me that I've been super sneaky up through now. Which makes it even less likely I'd kill Czar last night and then paint a target on my chest like I did, with a story I can't prove about a shield I can't even prove I had. A story directly mirroring another hutt's claim.
YesNOnoNOYes: Unlike some of you, I'm not willing to write him off as the Hutt. Yes, Rymuth leaving is less likely if he was a Hutt, but I also feel like Matty would care less about replacing him so late in the game if Rymuth had been an OR. Ref killing him at that point would have been fair. But at the time, Makai and OA were already on the line. Makai definitely. He's been insistent that we judge him based on his own posts, which I think is both fair, and a cover. It would suck, imo, for YesNOnoNOYes to pull out a win based on no one thinking Rymuth would quit. I suspect YesNo thinks much along the same lines; I know for me it would cheapen a victory.
Matt: I hounded you and Zipped, but eventually relented and went after Redhood. I realize now that was probably a mistake. A costly, costly mistake.
I'm not going to go back through posts and list individual suspicions, it's a bit late for that now. Like Palmer says, it's basically a split between Matty and myself, with a slight chance of YesNOnoNOYes. But I'm not going down without a fight:
Vote: YesNOnoNOYes
I've had no major reason to doubt Matt Attack (other than gunning for Zipped). I know most people see the divide being between Matt and myself, but I'm going to take the outside shot that you're content to lurk there letting them think that.
And with that, in the spirit of this game:
I roleclaim Undercover Imperial. ;_;7
AbsolutBro
Member
it's clickable, btw.
YesNOnoNOYes
Member
Oh no, we have Blarg the sequel!
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:O
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EXCITE~
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butbut :< i havent been lurking ! i think im one of the chattier players once i joined and im pleased to have been noticed by various senpais~ dont belittle their heat on me pls~ Palmer and MattAttack voted for me recently :> and now you ^___^
other than that.... and despite your voting against me, i'm still not 100% ready to vote for you XD
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i think my head is still stuck in that head zone where i dislike the likelihood that i may have to change and swing my votes to and fro if i vote early.
:O
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EXCITE~
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butbut :< i havent been lurking ! i think im one of the chattier players once i joined
and im pleased to have been noticed by various senpais~ dont belittle their heat on me pls~ Palmer and MattAttack voted for me recently :> and now you ^___^other than that.... and despite your voting against me, i'm still not 100% ready to vote for you XD
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i think my head is still stuck in that head zone where i dislike the likelihood that i may have to change and swing my votes to and fro if i vote early.
you sure about that?
YesNOnoNOYes
Member
Ugh. My head is a bag of cats!
NO THANKS TO YOU, ABSOLUTBRO. Verily No Thanks to Youuuuuu.
:<
No. I mean seriously, why would you roleclaim that! Even as a joke!??? It's cruel!!!!!!! CRUEL I SAY :< Whyyyy
NO THANKS TO YOU, ABSOLUTBRO. Verily No Thanks to Youuuuuu.
:<
No. I mean seriously, why would you roleclaim that! Even as a joke!??? It's cruel!!!!!!! CRUEL I SAY :< Whyyyy
Matt Attack
Member
I hope this doesn't end like exmachina's story did, but I can believe that AB is the UI. We can probably assume that AB isn't lying, because then this would be the most anti-town move in the game thus far.
Candidates for our final main Hutt then become myself and YesNo (and I've already explained why I think you can trust me to be a rebel plenty of times). To recap, eJawa was cleared by Setre. Raindoc's role has been confirmed as Rebel Suspect (which likely proves Palmer as not being the thief, since there's really no reason for a thief to have that information).
I wouldn't read much into it, it's just me cursing my luck. This really does read like you grasping at straws though, which really doesn't make you seem any less Hutt to me.
Candidates for our final main Hutt then become myself and YesNo (and I've already explained why I think you can trust me to be a rebel plenty of times). To recap, eJawa was cleared by Setre. Raindoc's role has been confirmed as Rebel Suspect (which likely proves Palmer as not being the thief, since there's really no reason for a thief to have that information).
I wouldn't read much into it, it's just me cursing my luck. This really does read like you grasping at straws though, which really doesn't make you seem any less Hutt to me.
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Deleted member 231381
Unconfirmed Member
AbsolutBro is one vote from being detained, just to confirm.
EDIT: Ignore me, missed palmer's unvote. Two votes from.
EDIT: Ignore me, missed palmer's unvote. Two votes from.
so jelly.
anyway, I'd like to hear from AB one more time before we get rid of him. might have been late for him when he posted, maybe he thought it was funny, etc... i really don't, this is the kind of shit that realy makes us loose the game.
AbsolutBro
Member
Yeah, it was like 11:30pm local time. And I kind of thought the "In the spirit of this game" and crying salute smiley would have made it clear it was a call back to the craziness with Exmac and Blargonaut early on.
Sorry, was meant for a laugh but apparently I suck at comedy.
Carry on with the execution.
AbsolutBro
Member
Just remember partner: you have to kill Palmer or Raindoc tonight. You should have killed Palmer and eJawa last night instead of attacking Czar and myself. Then there would have been no confirmed rebels during this day phase and maybe, just maybe, we could both come out of this alive.
huh. I wasnt sure you were thief but I really didnt think you were the UI. Well played.
AbsolutBro
Member
Or am I the thief, trying to make you think I'm the UI so I can kill you in your sleep?
Am I? Am I Palmer?
AbsolutBro
Member
This kind of makes me want to do a Rick and Morty themed game.
20 Ricks ve 1 morty and the ricks have no voting power.
AbsolutBro
Member
/salute
been fun guys!
been fun guys!
D
Deleted member 231381
Unconfirmed Member
Wait a sec.
AbsolutBro
Member
I'd like to think I would threaten you all with a thermal detonator, only to have it drop to the floor and it turns out it's a stun grenade.
*poomf*
Down I go.
*poomf*
Down I go.
Okay, maybe this will make me loose the game, if so - good gamble AB. But I believe Palmer to be neutral (though there remains the possibility that he's the UI - been trying to figure that out for the last couple of days, in that case we loose) and I just want to get this over with.
I am the Thief, the last remaining Hutt. Life-taker and Czar-breaker.
And we can end this now. AB and Palmer are with me. We lock down this vote and I kill one of the rebels tonight. Game Over.
VOTE: eJawa
I am the Thief, the last remaining Hutt. Life-taker and Czar-breaker.
And we can end this now. AB and Palmer are with me. We lock down this vote and I kill one of the rebels tonight. Game Over.
VOTE: eJawa
D
Deleted member 231381
Unconfirmed Member
Just to check, this was for comedic effect, right? AB already reached majority, you can't unvote.
EDIT:
errrrm, this is now really awkward. The day has ended and AB will be lynched as per the rules.
I'm just going to all let you stew and think about what you've just done.
well, then you shouldn't have asked that question.
doesn't matter. it's me and Palmer vs. the other two tomorrow. Hutts win, it will just take longer. Can we speed up the Night phase?
AbsolutBro
Member
If you are telling the truth, I am going to be so fucking furious with you.
D
Deleted member 231381
Unconfirmed Member
You assume they have no remaining roles; the game remains running according to the rules.
AbsolutBro
Member
You had to know I was lying. You had to. If you are the thief, you had to know you didn't steal from me! I put a target squarely on eJawa with that!
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Deleted member 231381
Unconfirmed Member
I will end the day in just a mo, but Night Phases will continue as normal so everyone can use their night actions as normal.