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[TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared]

I just watched this program on channel 4 about Donald Trump! And I've gotta say, I reckon Trump is like, a comedy bit, or maybe he's put in to make the other conservative candidates look better? Very funny either way.

'I will build a great, great, wall on our southern border. And I will make Mexico pay for that wall'


'The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive.'


On a more serious note, Channel 4 described him as providing a window into an angry fractured nation. How accurate is that?

http://www.channel4.com/…/the-mad-world…/on-demand/63576-001

 

[Makai]

This is the first you're hearing about this?

 

[daviyoung]

he is America personified

 

[davepoobond]

That wall just got 10 feet higher

 

[Thelonelykoopa]

It's funny till you realize he has a shot of winning.

 

[Hash Slinging Slasher]

nothing new

 

[OnPoint]

My laughter is starting to transform into fear.

 

[TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared]

This is the first you're hearing about this?

I don't generally pay a huge amount of attention to American politics. I know whose running, and whose party is who, but I didn't know much about Trump.

 

[Rebel Leader]

 

[phanphare]

It's funny till you realize he has a shot of winning.

yep

sad times

 

[Makai]

I don't generally pay a huge amount of attention to American politics. I know whose running, and whose party is who, but I didn't know much about Trump.

We've been on a year long ride over here. He gets even better when he brings his sidekick Jeb.

 

[Jedi2016]

My laughter is starting to transform into fear.

Because that motherfucker keeps winning. God help us all if he's actually elected.

 

[TapeDispenser1000]

Part of me hopes he gets elected, just to see what happens.

 

[Rebel Leader]

Because that motherfucker keeps winning. God help us all if he's actually elected.

He's gonna sit this one out.

 

[TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared]

We've been on a year long ride over here. He gets even better when he brings his sidekick Jeb.

But Jeb is the son of the former president? I thought they didn't like each other. There was footage on that program of them arguing on tv.

 

[Bronx-Man]

It's funny till you realize he has a shot of winning.

Not really, considering that every minority in America despises him and candidates can't win on just the white vote alone anymore.

 

[jblank83]

It's funny till you realize he has a shot of winning.

Yeah, I don't think it's funny at all.

Even if someone believes he doesn't have a real shot at winning, it's a sad commentary on our society.

 

[Makai]

But Jeb is the son of the former president? I thought they didn't like each other. There was footage on that program of them arguing on tv.

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/...nn/video/playlists/2016-presidential-debates/

Jeb was his foil.

 

[Angelus Errare]

Not really, considering that every minority in America despises him and candidates can't win on just the white vote alone anymore.

#WhiteVotesMatter

 

[Borgnine]

It's always funny until someone starts a trillion dollar illegal war.

 

[Ether_Snake]

But Jeb is the son of the former president? I thought they didn't like each other. There was footage on that program of them arguing on tv.

This will explain everything:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-McIdVuY88

Not really, considering that every minority in America despises him and candidates can't win on just the white vote alone anymore.

Until you get a Republican candidate who gets a lot of votes from white people who would have voted for the Democrats if the Republicans had another candidate.

 

[Wag]

he is America personified

Not this person.

 

[Lime]

I personally think he's super scary, since he's symptomizing the bigotry and frankly violently fascist views of the world by millions of people and powerful institutions.

 

[TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared]

This will explain everything:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-McIdVuY88



Until you get a Republican candidate who gets a lot of votes from white people who would have voted for the Democrats if the Republicans had another candidate.

What's going on with that other guy on the stage? The kind white one?

 

[Joe Shlabotnik]

he is America personified

He is a European-style nationalist.

 

[sphagnum]

But Jeb is the son of the former president? I thought they didn't like each other. There was footage on that program of them arguing on tv.

He's joking.

Yes, Trump and Jeb loathe each other. Jeb is the son of George H.W. Bush, who was president in the 90s, and brother of George W. Bush. He was the presumed frontrunner to get the nomination until Trump showed up and stole the spotlight, and ever since he's been floundering in the polls until he dropped out of the race yesterday.

Trump is tapping into a very angry, very white base of voters who have seen economic stagnation over the years but don't quite understand that their problems are caused by capitalism itself and so they blame Mexicans (illegal immigrants "taking our jobs"), black people (who they think are lazy and sit around all day living off of welfare stealing "our hard earned tax dollars"), liberals who supposedly manipulate everyone and hate America, and Muslims who they are terrified of. Trump is bordering on fascist territory.

 

[3phemeral]

This will explain everything:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-McIdVuY88



Until you get a Republican candidate who gets a lot of votes from white people who would have voted for the Democrats if the Republicans had another candidate.

I heard Trump use a horn on stage. Did he? I'm searching news articles and can't seem to find any reference to this.

 

[Ganzlinger]

South Park wouldn't have done better. So I agree.

 

[Lime]

He is a European-style nationalist.

Incorrect, European Nationalists are combining left-winged economic policies with far-right social politics.

 

[TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared]

He's joking.

Yes, Trump and Jeb loathe each other. Jeb is the son of George H.W. Bush, who was president in the 90s, and brother of George W. Bush. He was the presumed frontrunner to get the nomination until Trump showed up and stole the spotlight, and ever since he's been floundering in the polls until he dropped out of the race yesterday.

Trump is tapping into a very angry, very white base of voters who have seen economic stagnation over the years but don't quite understand that their problems are caused by capitalism itself and so they blame Mexicans (illegal immigrants "taking our jobs"), black people (who they think are lazy and sit around all day living off of welfare stealing "our hard earned tax dollars"), liberals who supposedly manipulate everyone and hate America, and Muslims who they are terrified of. Trump is bordering on fascist territory.

But that doesn't make sense (Trump's sentiments, not your post) I don't see how he could be taken seriously.

 

[tokkun]

maybe he's put in to make the other conservative candidates look better?

He has certainly succeeded at that. I have read multiple articles about how Rubio is the mainstream, center-right candidate when he is actually very conservative when compared to the candidates in prior cycles.

 

[Octavianus]

It's funny till you realize he has a shot of winning.

Still goddamn hilarious.

 

[water_wendi]

I heard Trump use a horn on stage. Did he? I'm searching news articles and can't seem to find any reference to this.

The horns are a joke.

 

[Ether_Snake]

Incorrect, European Nationalists are combining left-winged economic policies with far-right social politics.

Wrong, it's mostly left everything except immigration and religion. In France FN is more left-wing than the Socialist party.

 

[Revolver]

Did anyone see him on Meet the Press this morning? Chuck Todd confronted him about his opposition to the Iraq War by playing a clip of him on Howard Stern in 2002 supporting the invasion. His response was "I really don’t even know what I mean, because that was a long time ago, and who knows what was in my head?”

This guy just defies logic.

 

[Kraftwerk]

This will explain everything:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-McIdVuY88

Amazing Video

 

[jeremiahg]

Sadly, "angry fractured nation" is a pretty good description of the USA right now.

 

[Unknown One]

Not really, considering that every minority in America despises him and candidates can't win on just the white vote alone anymore.

I don't know man, I'm afraid.

A lot of gaffers thought that Republicans would not take the Senate, look what happened. They took it alright.

You can never be too certain, especially with the bs voter I.D laws in certain states which is used to bar minorities, college students, and the less fortunate from voting.

 

[3phemeral]

The horns are a joke.

Damn. Totally believable that Trump would have done it. lol

 

[Beefy]

Trump as President.
Boris as PM

It's going to happen!

 

[sphagnum]

But that doesn't make sense (Trump's sentiments, not your post) I don't see how he could be taken seriously.

Stop thinking logically. Vast swathes of the American electorate don't. They're badly educated, raised in a racist society from birth that treats "white" as "normal" and everything else as suspect, and follow an echo chamber of conservative media to get their news, which is then reinforced when everyone they know at their churches believes the same thing.

Obviously that's an exaggeration, but it is true to a large extent.

 

[El Topo]

Not really, considering that every minority in America despises him and candidates can't win on just the white vote alone anymore.

Pretty sure a year ago everyone was convinced he had no chance whatsoever at getting the candidacy. Never underestimate evil.

 

[tokkun]

Incorrect, European Nationalists are combining left-winged economic policies with far-right social politics.

But Trump is sort of doing this, relative to current US policy. He is the only Republican who has proposed expanding Social Security and has frequently hinted at support for socialized health care. He is also an economic protectionist who has attacked free trade agreements, offshoring, and corporate tax inversion. Like all of the other Republican candidates, his tax plan has across-the-board cuts (which end up favoring the wealthy more), but aside from that his is to the left of them on most economic issues.

 

[water_wendi]

Damn. Totally believable that Trump would have done it. lol

That what make the constant air horn blasts so funny!

 

[Johndoey]

Not really, considering that every minority in America despises him and candidates can't win on just the white vote alone anymore.

But Trump daddy said all the blacks and Hispanic voters love him?

 

[Ninjimbo]

He's a charming guy, in a sense. I enjoy watching his candidness since it stands out from all the other candidates. I've been following this stuff for years so it's refreshing to hear from a guy who doesn't have to think about a career in politics when he's making speeches or doing town halls. He can talk about things in a way that no other candidate can which in turn has led him to tap into some genuine feelings regarding all these issues.

They're feelings I don't share, of course, but it's something more people need to hear to make a better decision for the future of this country.

I'm not really worried about Trump to be honest. He'll likely be the Republican nominee after all the primaries are done and he'll lose to Clinton in the general. I just don't see him getting elected with the kind of message he's putting out.

 

[TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared]

Trump as President.
Boris as PM

It's going to happen!

Thats just crazy talk. And I find it crazy how anyone takes this bloke serious like.

 

[Gordon Shumway]

Not really, considering that every minority in America despises him and candidates can't win on just the white vote alone anymore.

But he can win if folks on the other side refuse to go out and vote for X candidate..been seeing a lot of talk like that for a minute.

 

[NEO0MJ]

Not really, considering that every minority in America despises him and candidates can't win on just the white vote alone anymore.

Even if he has no chance of winning he's empowering all the wrong people in the US.

 

[sphagnum]

Even if he has no chance of winning he's empowering all the wrong people in the US.

Yeah, I don't think he can win the general but the fact that he's doing so successfully is going to cause a lot more support for nationalists and white supremacists in the future. That's not going away any time soon. He's doing what Bernie is (hopefully) doing on the left, which is causing a realignment within the party.