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[CrAzY FiNgErS]

Perspective. The pic is either a real device, a home made physical mockup or a very good render, it it's some wonky photoshop.

Don't know if it's been mentioned, but it could be the real hardware prototype/devkit with a photo shopped image of U4 mobile tech demo? I hope it's the real hardware, because I am excited for something different like this.

 

[Art Vandilay]

Someone doesn't look right with that controller. The bottom edge of the screen isn't horizontal to the device.

That's because it's fake as hell.

 

[Papacheeks]

You wish monster hunter was paid. But this is not the point here.

Doesn't Nintendo pay Capcom for that contract on that game to keep it on their handheld?

 

[ec0ec0]

Ok this thread seems to have exploded over the past few hours... did I miss something new?

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Translation:

It's hex, in ASCII it's "This should not have been exposed"

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[oti]

This MESS of a thREAD

UttER Tragic for such an ICONIC company

Oh god no we attracted PopGAF. Everyone be cool.

 

[FunkyDealer]

Has anyone come up with a good reason why the screen is brighter near the (left) thumbstick? Could be a reflection from the stick I guess.

 

[Tom Nook Sawyer]

This is the exact frame that was used. You can tell from the various parallax elements that converge at that moment ( pillars, branches etc. ).

Quick & dirty perspective overlay ( close enough though ) ...

Wait...doesn't this confirm it is fake? Why else would it be cropped in such a weird way?

 

[Herb Alpert]

Doesn't Nintendo pay Capcom for that contract on that game to keep it on their handheld?

Not at all.

 

[Chuck]

Why, if they were putting out a fake, wouldn't they just leave the screen blank or some bullshit UI?

 

[Calvero]

The Wii/DS expanded audience are now predominantly mobile gamers, those are the ones Nintendo wants to attract on NX. The same people who bought 360 for Kinect and who now abandoned the Xbox brand.

and we know this how?

 

[catbrush]

Wait...doesn't this confirm it is fake? Why else would it be cropped in such a weird way?

Because the field of view (horizontal viewing angle) remains the same, thus cropping the image vertically.

 

[Graphics Horse]

Were there patents back in 2000/2001 which showed an accurate representation layout of say, the GameCube controller? I just find it hard to believe Nintendo would be so incompetent as to allow a highly accurate portrayal of what the final controller's appearance and actual configuration will be in publicly available patent docs.

Team fake, but also surprised none of the major sites are at least reporting this. We need a source to chime in at some point.

I don't think so but the only things that match the patent are a total of three geometric shapes, the general idea is so deliberately simple looking I can kind of believe it, the alternative might just be a more Vita style oval shaped version of the same thing anyway.

 

[Little Mons†er]

Oh god no we attracted PopGAF. Everyone be cool.

Walked in like a BO$$

 

[thefro]

Why, if they were putting out a fake, wouldn't they just leave the screen blank or some bullshit UI?

A black screen or a fake UI would look a lot more fake than what they did.

 

[FunkyDealer]

Don't know if it's been mentioned, but it could be the real hardware prototype/devkit with a photo shopped image of U4 mobile tech demo? I hope it's the real hardware, because I am excited for something different like this.

Why would one photoshop an image onto a functional display if it's the real deal? It only makes sense to photoshop an image ontop if it's a physical fake without a real screen.

 

[Arkeband]

Has anyone come up with a good reason why the screen is brighter near the (left) thumbstick? Could be a reflection from the stick I guess.

You'd probably have to explain why anyone would ever want an oblong snippet of 1/5th of a game screen first.

edit: upside-down, to boot.

 

[Ansatz]

Again... how many gamers do you know that did not own a Wii? It was bought but casuals AND the hardcore.

Of course there is overlap but the expanded audience is per definition a group of people who didn't play video games before.

and we know this how?

We don't know explicitly but all the evidence points to that direction if we collect all the official statements they've made in the past couple of years and consider what they are actually doing (expanded into mobile, experimenting with f2p models on lesser 3DS IP). Also there are no signs of western AAA support due to lack of leaks/chatter.

 

[AdanVC]

If the final product looks like this... i think it could work.

Honestly, I LOVE THIS. If the real thing ends up being like this I would buy two!

Nintendo leaking like crazy since the start of this year confirmed.

Part of this is Nintendo's fault for being so damn secretive about their upcoming projects pretty much since E3 last year. It's not like "if we show it early other companies will steal our idea" yeah right because everyone wants to steal Nintendo ideas after the disastrous failure that Wii U was. At this point, imitating Nintendo is the least thing the other companies want to do right now.

 

[RhyDin]

Why, if they were putting out a fake, wouldn't they just leave the screen blank or some bullshit UI?

Maybe the handheld can scale the software into the frame and wasn't configured to do so, which is why it appears to be a crop job.

I dunno. Maybe we can keep this thread going back and forth with constant speculation until E3, but one thing is for sure:

Spoiler

needs more Photoshop funnies and mockups.

 

[IceDoesntHelp]

This MESS of a thREAD

UttER Tragic for such an ICONIC company

pLEASE stop POSTinG liKe THIS.

 

[Peltz]

Someone doesn't look right with that controller. The bottom edge of the screen isn't horizontal to the device.

Didn't see this before. Nice catch

 

[E-Cat]

If the goal is to attract new players to traditional video game controls, it's a good way to do it.

What about us, Nintendo? WHAT ABOUT US?!

 

[Pancake Mix]

What? 3DS took a price hit within 6 months and had compelling software on both first and third party.

Resident evil revelations made a big splash, and so did street fighter on 3DS.

So no your wrong. Also add in Monster hunter, it's from third party. A paid third party exclusive, but not made by Nintendo.

Those are what Wii U lacked. They had a couple in the beginning, but did shit to promote them as home console is a different market than handheld and has more competition.

All three of your examples are Japanese and from Capcom.

Doesn't Nintendo pay Capcom for that contract on that game to keep it on their handheld?

There's probaby a marketing contract we're not privy to and such but...the 3DS makes the most sense for them anyways. It wasn't going to be Vita. More unfortunately it's not for consoles primarily, but it's not like the DS could have handled Monster Hunter, or the Vita is as viable as the PSP was.

 

[FunkyDealer]

You'd probably have to explain why anyone would ever want an oblong snippet of 1/5th of a game screen first.

Lord only knows. I've been TeamFake all along.

The reason I mention it is because it could be a sign of it being photoshopped.

 

[ForsakenLotus]

Because the field of view (horizontal viewing angle) remains the same, thus cropping the image vertically.

I don't understand why it would be cropped that way though. It makes no sense to me. It seems much more likely that it's cropped in such an odd way because it's fake, but maybe you can explain to me your perspective.

 

[Glorified G]

Wii U was too pricey for what it offered, with too few games. Simple as that. Look at the Gamecube. Powerful. Several high profile deals with 3rd parties to get ports AND exclusives. It failed. They need to look at the 3DS as an example: Solid 1st party and Japanese 3rd party support gets them a market of their own big enough to support them in the future.

Gamecube had middling third party support which is just as bad as having little support as the Wii U did and probably would have done just as worse if MS wasn't new to the scene. Gamecube consistently missed out on the biggest third titles released that gen (Grand Theft Auto, annual sports games, etc). If a home console is not going to have the same third party support as it's rivals, it might as well not have any at all. It wouldn't matter if the Wii U had the Wolfenstein: The New Order in 2014 if it was going to miss out on Destiny later that year.

And the 3DS is an handheld that was never in competition last gen consoles. Nintendo's next console will be in competition and compared with PS4/XB1 unless their new console strikes lightning twice and captures a new audience like the Wii.

 

[Gsnap]

But that would drive up the cost and complexity and for what purpose?

There are many potential benefits. The most basic being a greater sense of immersion by having extra game world visible in your peripheral vision. But, assuming the real product will have regular buttons, a screen like this would allow for a wider variety of touch options that are within more reasonable reach than the Wii U or DS/3DS. It could allow for a cleaner image with parts of the HUD moved to the top left and top right, while also allowing those parts of the HUD to be interactive if they wanted them to be. It could allow more customization options for players, like being able to drag parts of the HUD to wherever they wanted, or moving touch buttons to a more comfortable position for each individual. If they implement real buttons that are transparent and unlabeled, then they could change the color and labels of the buttons on a per game basis. And many of these things could still be possible even if the basic image doesn't extend beyond 16:9. You could still have the black space contain HUD elements or still have the buttons light up. And if you didn't want to do that then you could have a regular 16:9 image and nothing else.

I'm 99% sure this leak is fake, but I'm not gonna write off the idea of an extended screen just yet.

 

[Boy Wander]

Frankly, if Rosti knows something, he should just come out and say it - either directly or via a mod. This hex bullshit driveby shouldn't be allowed to fly, regardless of whether the poster has any prior form. Nothing says "hey, aren't I cool coz I know stuff" like a "coded" post. How fucking sad.

 

[georly]

Anyone remember the mario maker leak and how it was proved fake because the hand was from another Wii U promo shot?

 

[Arkeband]

Frankly, if Rosti knows something, he should just come out and say it - either directly or via a mod. This hex bullshit driveby shouldn't be allowed to fly, regardless of whether the poster has any prior form. Nothing says "hey, aren't I cool coz I know stuff" like a "coded" post. How fucking sad.

sad day

Spoiler

I agree

 

[Graphics Horse]

I don't understand why it would be cropped that way though. It makes no sense to me. It seems much more likely that it's cropped in such an odd way because it's fake, but maybe you can explain to me your perspective.

If it has head tracking you might be able to tilt up and down to see cropped parts.
to be clear though is it just taking the top ~55% of the frame or is it more complicated than that? I wadn't able to watch the video earlier. I don't think keeping the horizintal FOV the same in a demo is unusual really.

 

[TAS]

Western 3rd parties have nothing to do with Nintendo's success or failure in future hardware endeavours.

If Nintendo wants to be a serious player in the video game industry going forward..you bet your ass they do! The 'innovation' card was great back in the SNES and N64 days..but the problem is they are sticking with ideologies that people nowadays don't give two squirts of piss about. The gaming public of today wants powerful hardware, a plethora of games and a standard intuitive controller. Hello PS4. Yes..Wii was an exception but that was a magic lottery ticket. If I'm Nintendo, I'm building the most powerful hardware that allows me to break even or take a small initial loss. Then I'm going knocking on every Western 3rd party developers door and mending the relationships--this can even start with exclusive co-developed games. Leave the 'innovation' for their 1st party titles where it actually matters.

 

[Huge Succeeded]

Frankly, if Rosti knows something, he should just come out and say it - either directly or via a mod. This hex bullshit driveby shouldn't be allowed to fly, regardless of whether the poster has any prior form. Nothing says "hey, aren't I cool coz I know stuff" like a "coded" post. How fucking sad.

why are you so mad son

 

[DrWong]

Frankly, if Rosti knows something, he should just come out and say it - either directly or via a mod. This hex bullshit driveby shouldn't be allowed to fly, regardless of whether the poster has any prior form. Nothing says "hey, aren't I cool coz I know stuff" like a "coded" post. How fucking sad.

Frankly, think a bit before being upset for nothing.

 

[FearMyWrench]

Frankly, if Rosti knows something, he should just come out and say it - either directly or via a mod. This hex bullshit driveby shouldn't be allowed to fly, regardless of whether the poster has any prior form. Nothing says "hey, aren't I cool coz I know stuff" like a "coded" post. How fucking sad.

I agree with the premise but no need to get that upset over it.

 

[Jonneh3003]

Frankly, if Rosti knows something, he should just come out and say it - either directly or via a mod. This hex bullshit driveby shouldn't be allowed to fly, regardless of whether the poster has any prior form. Nothing says "hey, aren't I cool coz I know stuff" like a "coded" post. How fucking sad.

I'm grateful for all the infomation Rosti's given us in the past, he owes us nothing. I'm a little ashamed with those blaming him for this possibly being fake.

He also stated earlier that Nintendo is being very strict with NX infomation, we can't expect Rosti to tell us much.

 

[AdanVC]

One thing I was thinking: Nintendo always put either it's logo or their console's name logo on the front of their controllers. So if this is real where is the name of the console located? or it doesn't have it because this could be a prototype controller?

Anyone remember the mario maker leak and how it was proved fake because the hand was from another Wii U promo shot?

Yup! I was team fake all along when that was shown. Days later booom! Turned out to be real... Right now I'm team real with this. Even if that is a prototype NX controller, I can see it be real.

 

[georly]

I'm grateful for all the infomation Rosti's given us in the past, he owes us nothing. I'm a little ashamed with those blaming him for this possibly being fake.

Internet pitchforks are the worst. Everyone is out to hang everyone else as soon as anything they disagree with happens.

One thing I was thinking: Nintendo always put either it's logo or their console's name logo on the front of their controllers. So if this is real where is the name of the console located? or it doesn't have it because this could be a prototype controller?

Under the black tape. The redditor claims that he thinks the logo is under there but it's being blocked out.

 

[aggienader]

Check this out.
https://player.vimeo.com/video/108180448?autoplay=1
Interesting.

That IS super intriguing, but what exactly do they do? Are they buttons that have small displays that blend in with the overall display?

 

[DrWong]

I'm grateful for all the infomation Rosti's given us in the past, he owes us nothing. I'm a little ashamed with those blaming him for this possibly being fake.

Entitled gafferz :]

 

[Tom Nook Sawyer]

The guy who mayde the Raymond leak commented on gamexplain's video as to whether they think it's real or fake:

NOPE. I call fake. This is clearly completely based on the patents that were filed, but the person who made this seems to have not noticed that the controller depicted in the patent had grips on it. Also, that "program often used to tell if an image has been Photoshopped" didn't find anything amiss with the Rayman "leak." Just saying. =P

Add to that the fact that there seems to be no glass or plastic surface on the display which would be evidenced by screen parallax on the edges of the screen. Also, no evidence of screen moiré, which is typical of a photo of a screen like this. The freeform Sharp displays (which is what Nintendo would be using) photographed at comparable angles show significant screen moiré.

Edit: not saying these observations completely debunk the possibility of it being real hardware, but if it were real, it'd be a stupidly expensive piece of hardware to manufacture. It'd have to be an IPS display or something with very high pixel density, which completely betrays Nintendo's philosophy on making hardware affordable.

 

[Roo]

Frankly, if Rosti knows something, he should just come out and say it - either directly or via a mod. This hex bullshit driveby shouldn't be allowed to fly, regardless of whether the poster has any prior form. Nothing says "hey, aren't I cool coz I know stuff" like a "coded" post. How fucking sad.

lol this guy

 

[GuitarAtomik]

But that would drive up the cost and complexity and for what purpose?

I don't know lol. I'm just trying to explain what the best practices for the hypothetical put in front of us is.

 

[Boy Wander]

Frankly, think a bit before being upset for nothing.

I'm not upset - maybe my post was a bit too strongly worded. My point being, what does the post add to the discussion other than making people lose their shit because it MIGHT be real. Either say it's real or if you can't, say nothing.

 

[crooked spin]

I'm really not sure what to think at this point, but the screen in that photo does not look AT ALL like how a photographed screen should look.

 

[Doctre81]

That IS super intriguing, but what exactly do they do? Are they buttons that have small displays that blend in with the overall display?

The screen literally forms into button shapes on command.

 

[TylerDurden4321]

Wait...doesn't this confirm it is fake? Why else would it be cropped in such a weird way?

Yes, the picture is that is photoshopped on is just rotated, but not perspective-corrected.

Also, everyone here who says that something is wrong with the lighting is correct. The room is photographed under low lighting conditions. With the screen brightness like in the photo, the room would be a lot darker in the photo.

 

[Galang]

If the final product looks like this... i think it could work.

Looks awesome to me honestly. Could take off if done correctly

 

[RhyDin]

Can ya feel me?

 

[Jonneh3003]

Can ya feel me?

Now this I dig.