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[Destructoid] Leaked photo of NX controller?

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cyress8

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Doesn't look too bad actually.

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Feels like this has paddles on the back. Anyone said anything about it having paddles?
 

AdanVC

Member
Rostii happens to be one of the nicer posters here on GAF, always providing useful info and facts, digging up patents etc. To see some turn on him because they don't understand one of his posts is sad.

For what it's worth, he also said he has no intention of trolling anyone - and I believe that.

Yeah, leave Rostii alone, y'all!
 

Bronetta

Ask me about the moon landing or the temperature at which jet fuel burns. You may be surprised at what you learn.
I think they're trying to say the pic with the UE4 demo overlay means it's fake

But I don't think that's enough evidence tbh

Why would an UE4 demo have A/B buttons? Also in the wrong order for Nintendo input.
 

FZZ

Banned
Rösti;198593439 said:
2e6465736f707865206e65656220544f4e206576616820646c756f68732073696854

Which translated from HEX to text is



Read it backwards.

Reposting in case people missed it like me

Why would an UE4 demo have A/B buttons? Also in the wrong order for Nintendo input.

No clue, but I still don't think it's real or fake

Thread would've been locked long ago if that was the case

As of now, no one knows
 

plan9

Member
This looks fake as hell, like someone took the concept graphic from patent application literally and lazily photoshopped an image just like it. The "you will say wow" note and the cliche date stamp in the corner is another good hint it's just a fanboy fake. The screen contrast and color vs the rest of the image, dark border between screen and sticks/plastic parts, the overall lighting.. image just looks off to me in variety of ways.

I certainly hope it's nothing like the real thing, not really convinced by the two nipples on a mirror look and the buttonless design. I want Nintendo to succeed with this one.
 

stuminus3

Member
It's kind of funny that Nintendo have been so left field for the last 10-15 years that there's ever even a question that this might be real.
 

Chittagong

Gold Member
Really? After a detective gaffer discovered that it's simply a cropped screen from an existing demo, people are still thinking it could be real?
 

ZOONAMI

Junior Member
I think they're trying to say the pic with the UE4 demo overlay means it's fake

But I don't think that's enough evidence tbh

Nope. Hasn't been. They're making assumptions.

Why would an UE4 demo have A/B buttons? Also in the wrong order for Nintendo input.

The strange cropping, lighting, buttons, and non horizontal plastic running on the bottom basically all confirms this is fake, imo. The lighting is the biggest smoking gun. Looks like a fake screen with a light behind it.
 

otakukidd

Member
So, seeing how fast news agencys are reporting about a ps4.5 and haven't covered this once since last night? Something is definitely up.
 
I think they're trying to say the pic with the UE4 demo overlay means it's fake

But I don't think that's enough evidence tbh

if overlaying an image to the matching frame of a demo over an actual control proves its fake, then damn nobody ever better try that with a WiiU controller because then the entire console might cease to exist
 
R

Rösti

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Alright, alright, I will provide you a brief elucidation. What the embodiment in the image is representative of I do not know, it may or may not be a prototype related to the project of interest, it may or may not be a final design to the consumer. What I do know is what I originally said, and that x distinguished excellencies/individuals have expressed indignation about this situation (and earlier events this year). I have full trust in my source. These leaks are unfortunate.

I have no intention to troll anyone or cause a commotion. My original post was primarily a way for me to express my thoughts about this. While it is of course nice to have something to discuss in terms of NX, I am hoping that future stories of this calibre house less harmful properties. I have faith in this clarification providing sufficient eligibility.
 

FZZ

Banned
Really? After a detective gaffer discovered that it's simply a cropped screen from an existing demo, people are still thinking it could be real?

The original person who took the picture explicitly said it was a UE4 demo

Thread has been 80 pages man, we had that info for ages. Just took someone to find the exact frame.

Rösti;198611791 said:
Alright, alright, I will provide you a brief elucidation. What the embodiment in the image is representative of I do not know, it may or may not be a prototype related to the project of interest, it may or may not be a final design to the consumer. What I do know is what I originally said, and that x distinguished excellencies/individuals have expressed indignation about this situation (and earlier events this year). I have full trust in my source. These leaks are unfortunate.

I have no intention to troll anyone or cause a commotion. My original post was primarily a way for me to express my thoughts about this. While it is of course nice to have something to discuss in terms of NX, I am hoping that future stories of this calibre house less harmful properties. I have faith in this clarification providing sufficient eligibility.

Nice. And don't worry Rösti I believe you, you've done wonders for GAF.
 

Chao

Member
If that thing is real, you can now say goodbye to graphical power on the NX.

Crazy controller = more expensive to produce = less money for the grafixx chips
 

NESpowerhouse

Perhaps he's wondering why someone would shoot a man before throwing him out of a plane.
Has anybody mentioned how the triggers could be the rumored scroll wheels from that one patent?
 

maxcriden

Member
If that thing is real, you can now say goodbye to graphical power on the NX.

Crazy controller = more expensive to produce = less money for the grafixx chips

If it is a handheld we're seeing here, a d not the controller for a console, that's not necessarily the case.
 

georly

Member
The strange cropping, lighting, buttons, and non horizontal plastic running on the bottom basically all confirms this is fake, imo. The lighting is the biggest smoking gun. Looks like a fake screen with a light behind it.

Good hypothesis, but it still doesn't prove it fake. It's still not proven real, either. Also, what do you mean non-horizontal plastic?

Rösti;198611791 said:
Alright, alright, I will provide you a brief elucidation. What the embodiment in the image is representative of I do not know, it may or may not be a prototype related to the project of interest, it may or may not be a final design to the consumer. What I do know is what I originally said, and that x distinguished excellencies/individuals have expressed indignation about this situation (and earlier events this year). I have full trust in my source. These leaks are unfortunate.

I have no intention to troll anyone or cause a commotion. My original post was primarily a way for me to express my thoughts about this. While it is of course nice to have something to discuss in terms of NX, I am hoping that future stories of this calibre house less harmful properties. I have faith in this clarification providing sufficient eligibility.

No need to defend yourself to those wielding pitchforks against you. Not worth it. Interesting nugget of info, though:

that x distinguished excellencies/individuals have expressed indignation about this situation
 

ZOONAMI

Junior Member
Rösti;198611791 said:
Alright, alright, I will provide you a brief elucidation. What the embodiment in the image is representative of I do not know, it may or may not be a prototype related to the project of interest, it may or may not be a final design to the consumer. What I do know is what I originally said, and that x distinguished excellencies/individuals have expressed indignation about this situation (and earlier events this year). I have full trust in my source. These leaks are unfortunate.

I have no intention to troll anyone or cause a commotion. My original post was primarily a way for me to express my thoughts about this. While it is of course nice to have something to discuss in terms of NX, I am hoping that future stories of this calibre house less harmful properties. I have faith in this clarification providing sufficient eligibility.

So... it may or may not be fake...
 

Pokemaniac

Member
This is probably the most legitimately conflicted I've been on a rumor for a while. Rösti seems to know something, but their posts on the matter are very cryptic. On the other hand, the perspective of the demo of the screen definitely seems a bit off unless the camera is being cropped really weirdly.

At this point, I think I'm still leaning more towards fake.
 
The strange cropping, lighting, buttons, and non horizontal plastic running on the bottom basically all confirms this is fake, imo. The lighting is the biggest smoking gun. Looks like a fake screen with a light behind it.

i don't see how the way the image is cropped in the OP is anything close to evidence that it's fake, any more so than a center or bottom crop would have been. and if you look at the stick placement carefully the plastic at the bottom actually doesn't look misaligned either.
 

The_Lump

Banned
Rösti;198611791 said:
Alright, alright, I will provide you a brief elucidation. What the embodiment in the image is representative of I do not know, it may or may not be a prototype related to the project of interest, it may or may not be a final design to the consumer. What I do know is what I originally said, and that x distinguished excellencies/individuals have expressed indignation about this situation (and earlier events this year). I have full trust in my source. These leaks are unfortunate.

I have no intention to troll anyone or cause a commotion. My original post was primarily a way for me to express my thoughts about this. While it is of course nice to have something to discuss in terms of NX, I am hoping that future stories of this calibre house less harmful properties. I have faith in this clarification providing sufficient eligibility.

Thanks. And thanks as always for the info :)

I'm back in #teamreal.
 

Busty

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If that thing is real, you can now say goodbye to graphical power on the NX.

Crazy controller = more expensive to produce = less money for the grafixx chips

Yup. I can just see the E3 presentation now, "Y'all remember the Atari Lynx? Well...., "


Rösti;198611791 said:
Alright, alright, I will provide you a brief elucidation. What the embodiment in the image is representative of I do not know, it may or may not be a prototype related to the project of interest, it may or may not be a final design to the consumer. What I do know is what I originally said, and that x distinguished excellencies/individuals have expressed indignation about this situation (and earlier events this year). I have full trust in my source. These leaks are unfortunate.

I have no intention to troll anyone or cause a commotion. My original post was primarily a way for me to express my thoughts about this. While it is of course nice to have something to discuss in terms of NX, I am hoping that future stories of this calibre house less harmful properties. I have faith in this clarification providing sufficient eligibility.

I had no idea that Data from Star Trek The Next Generation posted on GAF.
 
It doesn't matter if your fingers are there because it's in your peripheral vision. It's going to be fuzzy anyway, so it's not hurting to have extra screen space there even with thumbs being there too. It's not about having major action happening on the edges of the screen. It's just about having a leaf blowing in the wind the disappears naturally into your peripheral vision rather than just hitting a border. It's about rays of light extending further rather than being cut off at a hard edge. Not a huge deal, but nice, and certainly not "bad".

And I don't think they're going the haptic route either. Everything I said was said assuming that traditional buttons would still be there. Those real buttons would not change (unless they were transparent and unlabeled, allowing that to change because of light or screen underneath them), but extra touch screen options could be on screen in addition to the regular buttons just like the DS. Except now, you could move them wherever you wanted so you could actually reach them consistently, unlike the DS. And not many console games allow customizing the HUD to such a degree. That's more of a PC thing. So it would be cool to see it more widespread.

And of course, if Nintendo actually makes something well-shaped and ergonomic (as this leak is not), then I could see and extended screen working really well.

Not amazing stuff, and if the cost is too high might not be worth it. But if the cost isn't too high, then it would only add to the overall experience, not detract.

I understand your points, I guess maybe it's just a matter of opinion on whether those things would be worth it. Clearly I don't think they are. There are other things I don't like about the design, but then if this is real it would be a prototype and I would assume the consumer version would be an improvement.

Phones with super thin bezels look pretty sleek, but they also are gaming devices. Whenever you are putting analog sticks in the screen space as well as buttons - virtual or physical - I think you are making an impractical product. And I don't really think it looks very good anyways.

In a hypothetical situation, would you rather have a Nintendo version of the Vita, i.e. a rectangular screen with physical buttons and analog sticks for $200 or the prototype with a screen that encompasses more or less the entire surface of the controller with some form of haptic or semi physical buttons and analog sticks for $250-$300. It's a complete guess on price I know, but I can't see how having such an odd shape of screen plus the customized cutouts and likely other additions like haptic buttons or transparent buttons wouldn't result in at least a noticeable price increase. Plus, I don't think it would be unfair to believe it would affect development and multilplatform ports more than having a traditional physical inputs and screen.
 

Anth0ny

Member
Rösti;198611791 said:
Alright, alright, I will provide you a brief elucidation. What the embodiment in the image is representative of I do not know, it may or may not be a prototype related to the project of interest, it may or may not be a final design to the consumer. What I do know is what I originally said, and that x distinguished excellencies/individuals have expressed indignation about this situation (and earlier events this year). I have full trust in my source. These leaks are unfortunate.

I have no intention to troll anyone or cause a commotion. My original post was primarily a way for me to express my thoughts about this. While it is of course nice to have something to discuss in terms of NX, I am hoping that future stories of this calibre house less harmful properties. I have faith in this clarification providing sufficient eligibility.

so either:

1. "It's unfortunate that the real controller got leaked"

or

2. "It's unfortunate that this piece of shit fake is out there painting peoples impressions of NX and we can't unveil the real thing until a later date"
 

javac

Member
If that thing is real, you can now say goodbye to graphical power on the NX.

Crazy controller = more expensive to produce = less money for the grafixx chips

If this is indeed real, the image on screen is from an Unreal Engine 4 demo that was posted on the Qualcomm Snapdragon processors and modems YouTube page insinuating mobile parts. Some have speculated that the numbers on the top of the screen (62) are frame counts.
 
Rösti;198611791 said:
Alright, alright, I will provide you a brief elucidation. What the embodiment in the image is representative of I do not know, it may or may not be a prototype related to the project of interest, it may or may not be a final design to the consumer. What I do know is what I originally said, and that x distinguished excellencies/individuals have expressed indignation about this situation (and earlier events this year). I have full trust in my source. These leaks are unfortunate.

I have no intention to troll anyone or cause a commotion. My original post was primarily a way for me to express my thoughts about this. While it is of course nice to have something to discuss in terms of NX, I am hoping that future stories of this calibre house less harmful properties. I have faith in this clarification providing sufficient eligibility.

You didn't need to explain yourself, you aren't in the wrong at all.
 

Pokemaniac

Member
Rösti;198611791 said:
Alright, alright, I will provide you a brief elucidation. What the embodiment in the image is representative of I do not know, it may or may not be a prototype related to the project of interest, it may or may not be a final design to the consumer. What I do know is what I originally said, and that x distinguished excellencies/individuals have expressed indignation about this situation (and earlier events this year). I have full trust in my source. These leaks are unfortunate.

I have no intention to troll anyone or cause a commotion. My original post was primarily a way for me to express my thoughts about this. While it is of course nice to have something to discuss in terms of NX, I am hoping that future stories of this calibre house less harmful properties. I have faith in this clarification providing sufficient eligibility.

So, it sounds like it could go either way then? Yeah, this pushes me more towards fake.
 

georly

Member
so either:

1. "It's unfortunate that the real controller got leaked"

or

2. "It's unfortunate that this piece of shit fake is out there painting peoples impressions of NX and we can't unveil the real thing until a later date"

And nothing has changed since page one, once again :)
 

Tempy

don't ask me for codes
Re-quote. This and other comments, show that this thing is so super fake that I'm convinced some of you are trolling heavily along, or smoke some really interesting stuff.

The guy who mayde the Raymond leak commented on gamexplain's video as to whether they think it's real or fake:
NOPE. I call fake. This is clearly completely based on the patents that were filed, but the person who made this seems to have not noticed that the controller depicted in the patent had grips on it. Also, that "program often used to tell if an image has been Photoshopped" didn't find anything amiss with the Rayman "leak." Just saying. =P

Add to that the fact that there seems to be no glass or plastic surface on the display which would be evidenced by screen parallax on the edges of the screen. Also, no evidence of screen moiré, which is typical of a photo of a screen like this. The freeform Sharp displays (which is what Nintendo would be using) photographed at comparable angles show significant screen moiré.

Edit: not saying these observations completely debunk the possibility of it being real hardware, but if it were real, it'd be a stupidly expensive piece of hardware to manufacture. It'd have to be an IPS display or something with very high pixel density, which completely betrays Nintendo's philosophy on making hardware affordable.
 

ec0ec0

Member
Rostii happens to be one of the nicer posters here on GAF, always providing useful info and facts, digging up patents etc. To see some turn on him because they don't understand one of his posts is sad.

What was really disappointing was people asking who Rösti was earlier.

He's the patent guy! How don't you know him!?
 
That doesn't necessarily mean anything. The screen could be from the demo the system is running.

If the same image can be overlayed on the controller without adjusting the perspective then it most likely is not running on the system.

Did Kjell confirm he only scaled and rotated it? If not, can someone else with Photoshop give it a go?
 

Arkeband

Banned
So, it sounds like it could go either way then? Yeah, this pushes me more towards fake.

Sounds more like it's an early prototype of the hardware, but the unreal demo is BS.

Lets not forget that Nintendo did file a patent for this goofy, un-ergonomic controller design.

This is the same company that brought this to market:

Nintendo-64-controller.jpg
 
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