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Assetto Corsa PS4 Alpha gameplay, preview
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Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
Last build (PS4) from few days ago they showed to press was still 30fps, if they're able to push it to 60 is crucial otherwise I won't buy it.
The physics are light years better than GT6 and from what I've seen of GT Sport too (going by the trailer/FIA gameplay it was using the same old tyres/suspensions model). There's never been a racing game like this on consoles, never. Too bad if it ends up locked at 30fps, because I can't enjoy it like that.
The physics are light years better than GT6 and from what I've seen of GT Sport too (going by the trailer/FIA gameplay it was using the same old tyres/suspensions model). There's never been a racing game like this on consoles, never. Too bad if it ends up locked at 30fps, because I can't enjoy it like that.
endlessflood
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Isn't Project Cars kind of similar?
If it only hits 30, then it has failed.
30 simply is not good enough for a sim in 2016.
GHG
Gold Member
Project cars is more of a a gritty race weekend simulator. This is the track day racing simulator that Forza motorsport aspires to be.
But if its 30 fps then it's dead on arrival.
GHG
Gold Member
They are a very very small team. Working on 2 console versions along with continuing to support the pc version will have them stretched.
GHG
Gold Member
Oh I assumed they were doing them themselves as well?
Anyway at this point I think it would wise of anyone who is seriously into racing games to build themselves a competent gaming PC if possible. The only thing you would miss out on moving forwards is GT which looks like it will be sub-par. You can get every game running at 60fps dependant on settings and use any racing wheels and peripherals you want. Plus the sim modding scene is as active as its ever been.
Sintoid
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Ok I'll change slightly the question. If the current consoles are so similar to mid range PCs I don't understand the amount of optimisation work in order to reach my PC's quality. I always thought that similarity between consoles (at least PS4) and PC was the best thing for developers so that they don't have to split too much or have different team to achieve similar results on different hardware.
If there's still so much differences and lot of work to do to optimize games we both, players and developers, have gained way too little in this console gen. Players have less powerful and customized consoles wich seems to be already at their peak and ready to be replaced, developers have to do a lot of work to achieve decent results on this hardware.
TylerDurden4321
Member
Sure, but the alternative would have been a $750 PS4 in 2013, that would have had a very slow start with even more cross-gen games because of a small install base.
I think Kunos problem was, like Unity up until v4, they did their processing on a single CPU core. With a physics heavy game on a CPU that can only reach decent performence if you use all cores, they had to completely overhaul their engine that now still needs fine tuning. Being a really small team comes with drawbacks like... imagine the physics and engine guys working on the console versions full time, the car modelers are doing PC DLC and just finished the newest one, but it's not done until the busy physics guys have put in their work into the DLC. Delaying the console version(and possibly big score) to keep the cashflow alive, is something you have to live with sometimes.
foolishoptimist
Member
Does your PC have a Jaguar CPU?
What exactly is that translation?
Is dynamic ToD missing in console version? I mean I know that there is no night racing but time of day is dynamic on PC.
Yes, as far as I am concerned AC has best feeling of all sims that I played and amazing force feedback. For me nothing comes close to driving on Nordschleife Tourist (which is laser scanned I think and one of the best recreations of this track) on full server.
scorcher59
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GHG
Gold Member
The next Forza games are coming to the PC as well. If they get wheel support sorted with UWP then you really aren't going to be missing anything.
That new gpu AMD just announced looks perfect for anyone looking to jump in and build a budget pc for the first time.
I... don't know. Is this supposed to be an Inside joke about the AC community, a joke about italian's "mastery of the english language" (plus several stereotype thrown in it) or simply a bad Google translation of which I never read the original text?
Sorry for being obnoxious, but I'd like some context because I just can't get it
GHG
Gold Member
Probably a mixture of both. Metaphors quite often get lost in translation.
Don't overthink it - it's an old joke from a Forza Motorsport 3 (or was it 4?) review from an Italian website.
TylerDurden4321
Member
Do you have a belt-driven wheel? AC is supposed the best for the Logitech wheels, not making their shortcomings as obvious as other games.
If you have a Thrustmaster or Fanatec and love the AC Nordschleife and the track in general, you should think about dropping 13 bucks into RaceRoom's Nordschleife plus one car (I'd recommend a 1992 DTM car or one of the Touring Classic cars).
In my mind the car feel in AC is "objectively" (yes, I know that this is bullshit) superior to that in pCARS, but not to that in RaceRoom. Both are not perfect, but if I had to give the realism car behavior award to one of the two right now, it would be close, but I'd probably give it to RaceRoom(tires are faster and less prone to over-cooling, but they feel softer and just right and awesome for my taste). Also their laserscanned Nordschleife (based on the same data set as AC's) is more beautiful and I think the sound in RaceRoom as well as the "complex motion blur" captures the thrill of motorsport even better than Assetto Corsa.
Yeah, I agree. They probably have to market it that way or something because if people buy it expecting awesome AI and a great race day atmosphere..etc, they will be left very disappointed..
So it's more of a hotlapping simulator? I'm down with that, as long as there are decent leaderboards.
Basically.
eek, I didn't know it was struggling to hit 60 FPS. I'm completely out if they can't do better than 30 FPS. Assetto Corsa runs so well on PC too so I wasn't expecting this. It even runs better than rFactor 2 for me and that game looks pretty bad.
TylerDurden4321
Member
I'm still thinking that with the new UI and AI improvements, they will add more challanges (no real hopes to get a proper career or campaign). But even just as a hot-lapping sim, it would be worth the money for me. The sell is a little harder, if you don't have a wheel...
So hard to guess how this game will review at full price, the console sites never had to review a game like this - really low on content and no real direction, but what is there in terms of gameplay is kinda magical compared to other games that tried to get this right for so long (on console). I assume the underdog bonus will be gone too at full price ://
Maybe it would have been more clever to retail it at 30-40 and not include the stuff that was released as DLC on PC - or at least have that option.
So hard to guess how this game will review at full price, the console sites never had to review a game like this - really low on content and no real direction, but what is there in terms of gameplay is kinda magical compared to other games that tried to get this right for so long (on console). I assume the underdog bonus will be gone too at full price ://
Maybe it would have been more clever to retail it at 30-40 and not include the stuff that was released as DLC on PC - or at least have that option.
GHG
Gold Member
I would have placed the game like that a few months ago but since the last few patches have arrived the AI has come on leaps and bounds.
I have Thrustmaster and I will have 13 bucks (15 euro) less today
I downloaded Raceroom once but it was a long time ago before many updates and DLC's so I will check it again today.
I must say though, their pricing is a little step.
As for Assetto Corsa one thing that I really don't like there is lack of in game leaderboards. I hope that console version will have it (and will be 60 fps)
http://www.examiner.com/article/kun...4-xbox-one-plus-console-s-lack-of-power-vs-pc
1:1 port of the code directly from PC to consoles, surely this is why they are struggling to hit 60fps?
1:1 port of the code directly from PC to consoles, surely this is why they are struggling to hit 60fps?
Did you read the whole article? It is said that they optimize the code.
I did, it says it has required them to have better optimization, not that they have actually managed to optimize it any better yet.
TJP
Member
Yep. I'm certian Stefano Casillo of Kunos has said a few times in his dev stream 505 are handling the PC to console work.
The AI are slowly getting better but they are a long way off AMS, rF2 and R3E. AC still needs basic aspects such as flags and rules; hopefully they are included soon. AC remains an excellent hotlap sim.
I'm still waiting to see 24 cars on the grid in the console versions. I can't see why it can't be done.
That sucks, can't imagine playing this game at 30fps. My laptop (i7-3610QM, 7970m, 16GB) can hit low 90fps in time trails, and 55-60 with a full grid. I thought PS4/XB1 would easily be able to hit 60fps.
Bitch Pudding
Member
awesome news!
Tried close to final if not final version of Assetto Corsa for PS4 the other day. Haven't checked 100% but me thinks it's 60fps already. Captured a couple of new gameplay clips with racing wheel:
http://www.gamereactor.es/noticias/317933/Nuevo+gameplay+de+Assetto+Corsa+en+PS4+con+volante/
It's Abarth 500 Assetto @ Brands Hatch and McLaren 650s GT3 @ Nordschleife.
Will be playing and capturing Xbox One as well in a couple of days. Man this game feels good (even if I sucked, that's it). And screen tearing is not as much anymore it seems.
http://www.gamereactor.es/noticias/317933/Nuevo+gameplay+de+Assetto+Corsa+en+PS4+con+volante/
It's Abarth 500 Assetto @ Brands Hatch and McLaren 650s GT3 @ Nordschleife.
Will be playing and capturing Xbox One as well in a couple of days. Man this game feels good (even if I sucked, that's it). And screen tearing is not as much anymore it seems.
Not as much is still far too much for me, I'm afraid.
SeeNoWeevil
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The PC version doesn't allow you to alter the amount of 'understeer' FFB iirc. Just on or off. I hope they add that in, it's way too heavy as it is.
The super low quality disappearing objects in the rear view mirror remind me of pCARS.
It's hard to tell from the quality of the videos (I hope they going to be uploaded at 60fps to YouTube, because that Gamereactor video player leaves a lot to be desired) but overall it looks visually quite inferior to pCARS on PS4. I was hoping for a v-synched 60fps from Assetto Corsa because of its simpler lighting and fewer on-track cars.
Unknown?
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So this is supposed to have better physics than PCars, right? I recently watched a stream and it was full of things people complain about in GT with bad graphics and GT5 quality 2D trees. Can't comment on sound as it was a YouTube stream but it wasn't particularly impressive. The guy hit a wall and his car unrealistically flipped too. GT Sport looks better than this and will probably have physics near or on par(prob not damage physics but we haven't seen that part of the game yet).
After the disappointment of PCars idk if I want this. I love simulators but there has yet to be a perfect one that gets everything right.
After the disappointment of PCars idk if I want this. I love simulators but there has yet to be a perfect one that gets everything right.
TheAdmiester
Member
GT is miles and miles behind Assetto Corsa in terms of physics and GTS looks like more of the same. GT doesn't even feel like a simulator to me so it's definitely not on par with AC.