ElectricBlanketFire
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Nope. It was everyone on GAF. Only Tertullian had the foresight to anticipate this unconfirmed rumor coming true.
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Emily Rogers: NX prototype had a 6.2" 720p multi-touch screen, 2 USB ports on dock
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Nope. It was everyone on GAF. Only Tertullian had the foresight to anticipate this unconfirmed rumor coming true.
Well, i think they could do much better. Obviously, this is quick and dirty, with no regards for ergonomics, but it's a lot smaller, just by raising the bottom and lowering the top. The buttons/sticks have not been moved.
The red lines indicate how much smaller it got.
I don't mind the size at all, I have to take my Wii U with me regularly if I want to play with friends and a somewhat portable system with a dock sounds kind of perfect for that. Even more so, if I could buy a second dock...
720p sounds kinda hard to do, if you want to get good running times with graphics, that are better than the Wii U. But we don't know how energy efficient this thing is build, so maybe it is possible to get more screen time out of this than the 3DS.
720p would also be the least, I expect from Nintendo when it comes to the docked version. It seems like 540p would have been better to enable an easier rerendering for 1080p, but if they offer 60fps 720p for every game on the system and if it's also prized accordingly (!!!), I'd be okay with that.
I'm looking forward to the reveal. As long as this thing supports great local multiplayer sessions without the need for a sideways wiimote (hated what the small the d-pad / no analog option did to many games) - I'm game. I'll be there day one. Mostly likely I'll be there day one regardless, but this is the one thing I'm a bit anxious about.
I'm already sure that Nintendo will deliver on the games side and they got amazing results out of the Wii U hardware, so I don't care too much about that.
But they fumbled a bit, when it came to local MP this and last gen. Not in the amount of games, but in the implementation.
720p sounds kinda hard to do, if you want to get good running times with graphics, that are better than the Wii U. But we don't know how energy efficient this thing is build, so maybe it is possible to get more screen time out of this than the 3DS.
720p would also be the least, I expect from Nintendo when it comes to the docked version. It seems like 540p would have been better to enable an easier rerendering for 1080p, but if they offer 60fps 720p for every game on the system and if it's also prized accordingly (!!!), I'd be okay with that.
I'm looking forward to the reveal. As long as this thing supports great local multiplayer sessions without the need for a sideways wiimote (hated what the small the d-pad / no analog option did to many games) - I'm game. I'll be there day one. Mostly likely I'll be there day one regardless, but this is the one thing I'm a bit anxious about.
I'm already sure that Nintendo will deliver on the games side and they got amazing results out of the Wii U hardware, so I don't care too much about that.
But they fumbled a bit, when it came to local MP this and last gen. Not in the amount of games, but in the implementation.
ElectricBlanketFire
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1/ Poppycock. If you waited 3 years, you can wait 3 more months. This type of buyer does not NEED this device in the hollidays per se. It would be more convenient, sure, but if he can get a device he is more interested in, a few months later, he can just as easily ask for a preorder as a gift or ask something else instead and get the gaming device he wants in march. This is not a kids market anymore, who need their console beneath the Xmas tree or will throw a tantrum.
2/ Welcome to the internet in 2016, where anyone remotely interested in buying a PS4 slim or XBO mini, is also connected to facebook or instagram or twitter or any form of social media and well aware that Nintendo would be releasing a new device (assuming they revealed it 2 months prior)... IF Nintendo plays their cards right... which brings us to the other thread about Reggie saying they need to do better.
If you remove the sensor bar, you can move the camera elsewhere to cut off space on the top.
This is me expecting the new Wii Remotes won't use the IR sensor.
Everyone should keep in mind the Wii U Gamepad wasn't designed for portability, they could easily shrink the thing down to remove unnecessary space.
Plus, I don't know if they will still use Sharp's screen tech (I forget the name of it), that apparently allows things to have very small bezels.
So again, I wouldn't expect the bulky mess that is the Wii U Gamepad and none of you guys should either. It wasn't designed for portability.
They will try everything they can to make the NX look compact and sleek.
PinkyMonkey
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For us folks who have no interest in handheld gaming, some dock rumors would be nice.
Hoping for at least 1080p games on my tv.
Hoping for at least 1080p games on my tv.
I didn't remove more from the top, because you still need space for the control sticks. If you move those lower, you need to move the buttons and Dpad lower too, and then i think it wouldn't have been very comfortable. That's why i chose to keep the sensor bar and camera, because you need the space anyway for comfort.
But it's certainly possible to do MUCH better than the WiiU gamepad was. This small excercise shows that you can save maybe 30% without any real issues.
You've seen how the different 3DS models look though. If there's not enough space on the face of the device they'll move rarely used buttons elsewhere on the side and below. Eg. The power button and TV button.
They would reduce the size of the home button as well.
Edit: that's why I am saying to not treat it as a Wii U Gamepad and think of it as a portable.
Face buttons on the gamepad are full sized console buttons. Dpad and buttons on 3DS are much smaller and analog sticks probably wont be full size either, so it could be a bit narrower.
We were making that joke, "The Reverse Wii U" since the Eurogamer report. Now it's likely going to become a reality.
Well, i think they could do much better. Obviously, this is quick and dirty, with no regards for ergonomics, but it's a lot smaller, just by raising the bottom and lowering the top. The buttons/sticks have not been moved.
The red lines indicate how much smaller it got.
I think it'll look a bit more elegant than that.
Little Monser
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The fact that the NX and Neo might be releasing at the same time...
Emily's rumours are normally on point tbh
I have faith in the good sis
Emily's rumours are normally on point tbh
I have faith in the good sis
So it's rumoured that PS4 Slim is just for holidays and PS4 Neo is just for cockblocking Nintendo at NX launch?
Edit: I thought it'd make more sense to release PS4 Neo now before the shiny new thing comes out.
You think? I was hoping Nintendo would contact me to make the final design based on this quick photoshop that was meant only to show how much space you could save without any real issues! You're breaking my heart.
That seems pointless though. The regular PS4 has better hardware than the NX as a console, seems unnecessary.
Yeah, i guess that everything could be scaled down a bit, since portables usually don't have full sized buttons/sticks. But it depends on how they are going to have us play in the couch. If there is an extra controller for when the NX is docked, then they could have a full sized controller for that. But if the sides of the NX just come off for couch gaming, then you'd be stuck with "portable sized" sticks and buttons while playing on the tv.
I'm just going off that other post though. I don't know what Sony would plan.
I thought they'd be more preoccupied with launching Neo as soon as possible before Microsoft shows off their Project Scorpio at E3.
Because that thing will definitely look like a generational leap regardless of it being an incremental upgrade.
Hot Coldman
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If this is real it sounds pretty badass. Probably wouldn't even hook it up to the TV too much.
They'll find a balance then since it's a hybrid. It's already going to be big because of the screen but they are not going to make it look bulky otherwise it gives negative perceptions.
I am serious when I say this, when they reveal the thing. They will most likely show its weight in grams and compare it to a relative object that people should know is light because it was so stupid as I said repeatedly that Japanese consumers thought the Gamepad was heavy because it was big, not big & dense.
ElectricBlanketFire
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James Scott
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PSP didn't sell 100M units, 3DS is at 60M.
There was also just one main price cut, and the 3DS has since then gotten more expensive.
Did it underperform? Definitely. But there's still a big enough market there to continue Going after especially if they can devote more resources to it
James Scott
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The Wii U gamepad has a ton of space that isn't necessary I'd imagine it'll be much smaller
Is it really unnecessary tho? I figure the extra space helps for ergonomic reasons.
6.2 + detachable controllers makes this thing sound huge. I hope not, I mean I usually carry it in my backpack anyways but I don't want this thing to be a mammoth like the wii u gamepad.
720p sounds fucking awesome. That may sound crazy in this day and age, but nintendo has been too far behind in resolutions that I assumed best case 540p. 720p pokemon, fire emblem, monster hunter, etc all portable is so good.
Hopefully a reveal before, so then they'll play the NX version there.
720p sounds fucking awesome. That may sound crazy in this day and age, but nintendo has been too far behind in resolutions that I assumed best case 540p. 720p pokemon, fire emblem, monster hunter, etc all portable is so good.
Zelda Wii U is going be played at the EB Games Expo Sydney (Sept 29-Oct 2) so NX reveal after that in October???
Hopefully a reveal before, so then they'll play the NX version there.
martino
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not if the strategy is to dilute/shade NX launching marketing/sales.
neo would have more impact
Milly Osworth
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But the iPad is a giant flop because it doesn't fit in your pocket.
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Well, i think they could do much better. Obviously, this is quick and dirty, with no regards for ergonomics, but it's a lot smaller, just by raising the bottom and lowering the top. The buttons/sticks have not been moved.
The red lines indicate how much smaller it got.
I guess if you got rid of the camera you could reduce further.
James Scott
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At least the top and bottom, yeah. It's also super thick.
Vita's screen in like 5 inches so I can't imagine an additional inch would make it monstrously big
Candescence
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Why are people complaining about the potential size of the thing? I'm pretty sure 6.2 inches is roughly around the size of the Vita's screen, or just slightly larger. Granted, the Vita also uses a 544p screen, but still.
Zelda Wii U is going be played at the EB Games Expo Sydney (Sept 30-Oct 2) so NX reveal after that in October???
They shouldn't wait that long.
Nah, it's a whole inch bigger. I don't think it's a massive issue when 7,8 and 10 inch tablets are about though.
frankie_baby
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i'll eat my Wii U pad if the NX doesn't have a camera
possible hyperbole but there'll definitely be one
Been thinking this the whole way through. Console first and handheld later.
They should just make it have slide out controls or clamshell
Wouldn't make much sense as Nintendo would then be split between supporting two systems again. The big advantage of one NX is that it potentially united the support of Wii U and 3DS. Having a weaker handheld NX or just some completely different handheld would destroy that advantage again.
Let's hope the screen will have Gorilla Glass 4.
Refreshment.01
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The Value Oriented consumer you are talking about never waits 3 years, less so when there are enough companies with good/better value propositions serving the market already.
Remeber to keep the context of the NX unveil date for the discussion, it is a shame you truncated the part of the post you replid to.
Anyways, The NX launch is the least of concerns for Nintendo as all the stock will be sold out. Specially when this time around they will have their most ambituous tiitle ever potentially launching with the device. Unveiling it in pre or post holidays won't have much of an impact.
Is strange that you bring this up as if im unaware of the fact when making my statement. ????
But isn't this accessability to information in the digital age a good point for Nintendo to wait post holiday season to make the unveil?
In the end, your 2nd point just means it takes a lot less time to build consumer awareness and hype of a product nowadays.
DISCLAIMER:
Again, the point was for someone to come up with solid reasons of why an after September unveil would be problematic.
However, at this stage the likest scenario is a September unveil, since after all, that is what people with actual sources are claiming
VGA cameras aren't that expensive.
I've already speculated that Nintendo will probably do something with an optical camera or IR camera for NX.
They had a patent related to using an IR camera earlier this year.
On the DSi, they used the front facing camera to recognise facial expressions in that Face Training game.
They also used that camera for a DSi Ware Puzzle game where the camera tracks where you are looking so it shifts the view point for what you are looking for on screen.
The New 3DS had an IR camera for the Super-Stable 3D which had to track your face (not eye tracking) to keep the 3D stable.
The Wii U Gamepad had that communication app to contact someone else with a Wii U like a Skype conversation.
Zombie U had the zombification shot of your face when you look at the Gamepad.
And other stuff I could go on about.
So basically 1 percent of games use it. Yeah more a reason to scrap it
TheGuardian
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The Vita has a 5 inch screen iirc
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I guess that I only used my 3DS camera to try the AR games. It's not that great if doesn't have social media apps to use
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